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F-22 wreckage found in Alaska, pilot still missing
Alaska Dispatch ^ | 17 Nov 2010 | unattributed

Posted on 11/17/2010 8:46:39 PM PST by smokingfrog

UPDATED 4:15 p.m.: Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson reports that it has located the apparent wreckage of an overdue F-22 Raptor some 100 miles north of Anchorage. Here's an updated press release:

JOINT BASE ELMENDORF-RICHARDSON, Alaska (AFNS) -- Search and rescue crews have found the apparent wreckage of an F-22 Raptor Nov. 17 that was assigned to the 3rd Wing here.

The jet lost contact with air traffic control at 7:40 p.m. local time while on a routine training mission Nov. 16.

A search was coordinated by officials with the Alaska Air National Guard Rescue Coordination Center. Airmen in HH-60 Pave Hawk helicopters and an HC-130 King combed an area northeast of Cantwell, Alaska, the last known location of the aircraft.

"Our thoughts and prayers are with the family of this missing Airman, and we thank all Alaskans for their continued support and prayers during this trying time," said Col. Jack McMullen, 3rd Wing commander. "Finding the missing pilot is our top priority."

To continue searching for the missing pilot, a rescue team is being dispatched to the area, approximately 100 miles north of Anchorage, by the Alaska Air National Guard Rescue Coordination Center, the 3rd Wing and Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson.

Colonel McMullen held a press conference at 1 p.m. to make a statement and answer questions from the media.

(Excerpt) Read more at alaskadispatch.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: airforce; crash; f22; jeffreyhaney; raptor; tinfoilbrigade
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1 posted on 11/17/2010 8:46:45 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog
Then where is the PRC-whichever beeping out on 121.5 MHz?

This sucks. Prayers up for the family and all the men that fly and fight.

/johnny

2 posted on 11/17/2010 8:50:39 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Pilot should have some type of emergency radio, locator beacon, right?

If they're not hearing anything, it probably means bad news.

3 posted on 11/17/2010 8:54:40 PM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: smokingfrog

They have some top-notch crews looking for him. IIRC, the ejection seat should have its own auto-deployed beacon...


4 posted on 11/17/2010 9:08:09 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

243.0 Guard

Pilot has a PRC-149 and the seat pac has a ELT.

That an ACES II seat ELT and the PRC would both malf is close to impossible.

Waiting for the bad news......


5 posted on 11/17/2010 9:08:55 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: TXnMA

Prayers!


6 posted on 11/17/2010 9:09:51 PM PST by cmsgop ( I spent most of my childhood terrified that The Rhythm was going to get me.)
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To: TXnMA

Report didn’t indicate whether the pilot had ejected or not. What kind of gear do they carry to survive in sub-freezing weather?


7 posted on 11/17/2010 9:16:13 PM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: smokingfrog

Raptors shouldn’t be falling out of the sky for no reason. first we have a mysterious missile launch off the coast of california and now we have a downed F22. WTF is going on?


8 posted on 11/17/2010 9:37:03 PM PST by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: smokingfrog

With the production line shut down and tooling destroyed, that plane was irreplaceable.


9 posted on 11/17/2010 10:00:16 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301
Last I heard smarter minds prevailed and they decided against destroying the tooling for F-22s.
10 posted on 11/17/2010 10:07:34 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: fso301

Tooling has been destroyed?

Looks like they haven’t quite finished production yet.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/11/08/349442/lockheed-starts-post-f-22-transition-in-marietta.html


11 posted on 11/17/2010 10:15:12 PM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: smokingfrog
I find this most disturbing. This is indicative of a catastrophic in flight failure. If the aircraft was being flown within its flight envelope, it must be assumed there is either a design error in the craft (not likely) or components of the craft that are not compliant with original design specs.

This “ain't” good.

12 posted on 11/17/2010 10:16:03 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: cpdiii

What about a bird strike?


13 posted on 11/17/2010 10:19:23 PM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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"At the same time, Lockheed has cleared out a roughly 23,200m² (250,000ft²) space used for C-5M tooling storage opposite the F-22 assembly area."

So where is the C-5M tooling stored.....China?

And the F-22 tooling....enquiring minds seek answers....

14 posted on 11/17/2010 10:31:22 PM PST by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: RC one; Tiger_eye; Hardraade

On Bing maps-—Long Beach, CA to Anchorage, AK
This is strange. Been wondering where they would find the dead missile and what they would use to cover up the recovery.


15 posted on 11/17/2010 10:38:15 PM PST by MestaMachine (Farrago fatigans! - Thuffering thuccotash!)
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To: spokeshave

Extra space for C-130J production?


16 posted on 11/17/2010 10:51:36 PM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: smokingfrog

Not likely at this time of year. They have already migrated south. I wish the article gave the last known altitude. That would tell us a lot.


17 posted on 11/17/2010 11:04:46 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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Search and rescue crews have found the apparent wreckage of an F-22 Raptor Nov. 17 that was assigned to the 3rd Wing here.
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Prayers Up,,,

I don’t he made it out,,,

The P.J.’s would have gotten to him by now...


18 posted on 11/17/2010 11:05:19 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: smokingfrog

I hate to dash hopes, but for you that live in the lower 48 I have to tell you it is VERY cold up here right now. If the pilot survived leaving the airplane, unless he has got very good cold weather survival clothing he isn’t likely to last very long.

We have got a high laying across the center of the state, the area he would have ejected is right in the middle of it.

Note: high pressure systems in the winter in Alaska mean COLD.


19 posted on 11/17/2010 11:18:55 PM PST by sasportas
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To: MestaMachine
Why were F-22 Raptor Jets circling over LA the morning after ‘missile’ incident?
20 posted on 11/17/2010 11:22:39 PM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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