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St. Louis tops list of most dangerous US cities
AP ^ | November 21, 2010

Posted on 11/21/2010 5:58:34 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — St. Louis overtook Camden, N.J., as the nation's most dangerous city in 2009, according to a national study released Sunday.

The study by CQ Press found St. Louis had 2,070.1 violent crimes per 100,000 residents, compared with a national average of 429.4. That helped St. Louis beat out Camden, which topped last year's list and was the most dangerous city for 2003 and 2004.

Detroit, Flint, Mich., and Oakland, Calif., rounded out the top five. For the second straight year, the safest city with more than 75,000 residents was Colonie, N.Y.

The annual rankings are based on population figures and crime data compiled by the FBI. Some criminologists question the findings, saying the methodology is unfair.

Greg Scarbro, unit chief of the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting Program, said the FBI also discourages using the data for these types of rankings.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: crime; list; stlouis
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To: BenLurkin

Is there any city run by Democrats that isn’t a s**thole?


21 posted on 11/21/2010 6:28:47 PM PST by Signalman
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To: twister881

None of this garbage was tolerated before the 1960s. Now it’s open season in every major city and we’re not allowed to do anything about it. Except flee for the exurbs and watch the miscreants follow us out 10 years later.

Maybe putting the car in “R” isn’t such a bad idea after all. Running away from the problem gets us nowhere.


22 posted on 11/21/2010 6:30:51 PM PST by bornred
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To: ConservativeStatement
"Crime is based on a variety of factors. It's based on geography, it's based on poverty, it's based on the economy," Van Ross said.

NO, crime is based on ONE factor: morals. If what Van Ross said were true, crime rates would have been super high during the Depression, but they were not because people still had their morals even though they were poor.

23 posted on 11/21/2010 6:31:57 PM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Slaying Louis is a pretty tough town and I would not be caught there after dark, especially East SL.

But there is no way they beat Camden.

I wouldn’t even stop in Camden during the day.


24 posted on 11/21/2010 6:33:56 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

That made me smile, I have to admit. :-)


25 posted on 11/21/2010 6:35:53 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement
These statistics are, of course, for St. Louis CITY, not for the entire metropolitan area. I live in St. Louis COUNTY, which is distinct from St. Louis CITY. In the last 50-60 years, St. Louis City has lost TWO-THIRDS of its population. Guess which demographic has moved out and which has remained.

That said, MUCH of St. Louis City is perfectly safe. Downtown is generally safe. It is the NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY that is EXTREMELY dangerous. As in all cities, wherever a certain unnamed demographic exceeds a certain percentage of a given neighborhood, there is an increased danger of violent crime. And so, as in all cities, you have to know your neighborhoods. (I grew up in the city of Chicago, in a perfectly safe neighborhood, no crime whatsoever.)

There are safe neighborhoods in St. Louis, and there are dangerous ones. You have to know which is which. I am not at all afraid to go downtown or to south city or midtown or the west end. I do stay out of the north side, but then, there is no reason for me to go there.

26 posted on 11/21/2010 6:40:58 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (St. Louis County)
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To: unixfox
Are you trying to point out that there may be a corollary? /sarc

I get a kick out of the magazines and articles pointing out the best places to retire. They neglect to show some are democrat strongholds. Moving a lifetime's worth of possessions and ending up in a hellhole would be a very serious tactical error. Living among like-minded people (for the most part) is a factor they NEVER consider.

27 posted on 11/21/2010 6:41:31 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest

You need to update NJ. Their Republican governor is bigger than life.


28 posted on 11/21/2010 6:41:47 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: ConservativeStatement

According to Forbes, the top 10 most dangerous cities are:

1. Memphis, Tenn.

2. St. Louis, Mo.

3. Kansas City, Mo.

4. Detroit, Mi.

5. Miami, Fla.

6. Tulsa, Okla.

7. Nashville-Davidson, Tenn.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2626727/posts


29 posted on 11/21/2010 6:42:12 PM PST by FS11
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To: Vendome

East St. Louis is actually in Illinois and was a cesspool 30 years ago—for a while they even had an ex-con as PD Chief because no one else would take the job!


30 posted on 11/21/2010 6:43:05 PM PST by pankot
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To: Mr. Wright
Here are a few demographic percentages (from city-data.com):

St Louis

Black 48
White 45
Hispanic 3

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Camden

Black 50
White 7
Hispanic 38

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San Jose (one of the safest cities in the US)

Black 3
White 32
Hispanic 32
Asian 31

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31 posted on 11/21/2010 6:43:46 PM PST by Ken H
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To: GulfWar1Vet; Vendome
East St. Louis has nothing to do with this story. It is across the river, in Illinois, and not within the city limits of St. Louis. And East St St. Louis does not meet the population minum to qualify for these rankings.

Yes, East St. Louis is a hellhole, but it is the north side of the city of St. Louis that makes St. Louis the violent crime capital--although, as I say, much of St. Louis is perfectly safe. The crime is concentrated in certain "ethnic" neighborhoods.

32 posted on 11/21/2010 6:45:59 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (St. Louis County)
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To: ConservativeStatement

One common ‘denominator’and it has nothing to do with the economy. Memphis and Atlanta should be higher on the list. If you break down certain areas you would be safer in Iraq or Afghanistan.


33 posted on 11/21/2010 6:48:49 PM PST by OregonTide
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To: GulfWar1Vet

First off East ST. Louis is in Illinois and has been a rough place for decades. I live in the Benton Park area and it is fairly safe and so is the Soulard area. Street crime is down all over since we can legally pack heat. Most of the crime is personal or gang related.


34 posted on 11/21/2010 7:00:16 PM PST by MCF
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To: twister881
TO ALL:

"B.S. It's based on the percentage and absolute numbers of Negro and Latin males aged 14-45 behaving as unconscionable animals and roaming urban areas in packs to rape, rob, murder, and commit other assorted acts of mayhem."

THE TRUTH HAS BEEN SPOKEN!!!!

WAKE UP YOU PC MORONS!!!

:-)

35 posted on 11/21/2010 7:06:22 PM PST by drummer10
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To: bwc2221
You need to update NJ. Their Republican governor is bigger than life.

Thanks for pointing that out. I copied what was printed at the link, not to use my own input, but that of the author of the article.

36 posted on 11/21/2010 7:06:39 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: drummer10
"B.S. It's based on the percentage and absolute numbers of Negro and Latin males aged 14-45 behaving as unconscionable animals and roaming urban areas in packs to rape, rob, murder, and commit other assorted acts of mayhem."

Another form of redistribution of wealth.

37 posted on 11/21/2010 7:08:20 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: ConservativeStatement

Memphis and Jackson, Tennessee and Jackson, Mississippi IMO are two really dangerous cities. I have been to St. Louis and its population and geography within the city has much in common with the others.


38 posted on 11/21/2010 7:10:44 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Charles Henrickson

I agree, sir. I’ve been downtown to a Cardinal game this season - perfectly safe and new Busch Stadium is a wonderful venue. I’m also a Rams fan and have stayed at various downtown hotels to attend games at the Ed. My wife and I love the blues and hit Soulard as often as we can. The food on the Hill - both Italian and German - is some of the best we’ve had anywhere. With all that said, and as you pointed out, we don’t venture north of the Eddy - ever, ever, ever.

My former boss had a brother who was an East St. Louis police officer 10 years ago. The city was so broke they could not afford ammunition for the officers’ weapons - they bought their own or did without. ESTL is the city of plywood windows and isn’t safe during the daytime, much less at night.


39 posted on 11/21/2010 7:13:40 PM PST by RonInNaples
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To: GulfWar1Vet
Yeah, I saw what happened to Clark Griswold and his Pea-Green Family Truckster in downtown STL at night.

And that was back in the early 1980s.

40 posted on 11/21/2010 7:14:53 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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