Skip to comments.Narcissism No Longer a Psychiatric Disorder (President no longer clinically insane!)
Posted on 11/30/2010 9:17:03 AM PST by mojito
Narcissistic personality disorder, characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance and the need for constant attention, has been eliminated from the upcoming manual of mental disorders, which psychiatrists use to diagnose mental illness.
As Charles Zanor reports in todays Science Times, the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders due out in 2013 and known as D.S.M.-5 has eliminated five of the 10 personality disorders that are listed in the current edition. The best known of these is narcissistic personality disorder.
It is a puzzle why the manuals committee on personality disorders has decided to throw N.P.D. off the bus.
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Ha! Rush just opened his show with this story!
LOL Next, they will eliminate:
Hillary(stab-me-in-the-back)-derangement-syndrome, Rahm (dead fish)-Clintonista-paranoia, Christian-gun-clinging-redneck phobia, and visceral-Constitutional aversion malady.
What about hoarders (a year’s fuel/food/entertainment/ammo(well 10 yr)/etc. supply)?
Once something becomes common among leftists, it no longer qualifies as a mental illness.
You will notice that depression still qualifies as a mental illness.
The reason: leftists are quite happy with the misery they bring into the world
As a result, depression is not common among leftists.
All Obama jesting aside. Do we need any further proof that psychiatrists are quacks?
If crazy people don’t know they are crazy, how could we expect them to tell if other people are crazy?
People with personality disorders are not insane. Obama meets 8 of the 9 criteria for NPD. I looked at the DSM-IV for Antisocial Persoanlity Disorder (AKA Sociopath) and Obama meets more than the 3 criteria to be considered one.
A lot of them are crazy themselves.
One of the sharpest critics of the DSM committee on personality disorders is a Harvard psychiatrist, Dr. John Gunderson, an old lion in the field of personality disorders and the person who led the personality disorders committee for the current manual.
Asked what he thought about the elimination of narcissistic personality disorder, he said it showed how unenlightened the personality disorders committee is.
They have little appreciation for the damage they could be doing. He said the diagnosis is important in terms of organizing and planning treatment.
Its draconian, he said of the decision, and the first of its kind, I think, that half of a group of disorders are eliminated by committee.
Later in the article it quotes Jonathan Shedler as saying "The committee was stacked with a lot of academic researchers who really dont do a lot of clinical work." That seems apparent. Also, a careful reading of the article doesn't reveal what the other 4 personality disorders are that the DSM V eliminates.
Do the “committe” members have names? Shame and embarassment do have a purpose.
I guess the faceless “committee” doesn’t believe in the science like the OweBama regime demands.?
This will interest the good Dr. O
This really is bizarre.
It reminds me of the strange coincidence that everywhere he went, Bill Clinton was surrounded by dead bodies.
Just a coincidence, of course.
If NPD is not a mental disorder, then why is Obama still on meds?
This was done by a committee.
Interesting to see who the members were.
It appears that the last time a category was
discarded was 23 years ago.
This is not a coincidence.
Barry is textbook, which is obviously why they declassified it- to protect him.
“Many experts in the field are not happy about it
One of the sharpest critics of the D.S.M. committee on personality disorders is a Harvard psychiatrist, Dr. John Gunderson, ..”
Dr Gunderson is an expert in the field of personality disorders
and he is outraged.
He said the committee was unenlightened about
They have little appreciation for the damage they could be doing.
“ He said the diagnosis is important in terms of organizing and planning treatment.”
Pressure from the WH, but it’s not about the President.
I suspect that you will see many ICD-9 codes disappearing as Obamacare takes effect.
If it’s not a disorder, they don’t have to pay for the treatment of it.
I think you just nailed it.
Same committee who decided homosexuality was A-OK because ,,,well, because queers didn’t mind it.
Narcissists think they are A-OK too....maybe even way cool.
Maybe some leftists have actually decided that narcissists aren’t crazy, they’re just evil.
Next up, conduct disorder? Maybe there really is such a thing as a bad kid.
Any thoughts on the emphasis placed on building “self-esteem” in the last 20-30 years?
When the inmates are running the asylum they just declare themselves sane, and everyone sane insane.
>>Any thoughts on the emphasis placed on building self-esteem in the last 20-30 years?<<
Hasn’t helped with NPD at all.
Guaranteed you couldn't find a committee of psychiatrists who believe in the existence of evil.
Defining deviancy downwards, yet again...
“As Charles Zanor reports in todays Science Times, the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders due out in 2013 and known as D.S.M.-5 has eliminated five of the 10 personality disorders that are listed in the current edition. The best known of these is narcissistic personality disorder.”
If depression were no longer a mental illness, they couldn’t get insurance/government to pick up the tabs on their meds anymore.
The insurance companies typically do not pay for some personality disorders already because there is no treatment that works. There is no treatment or cure for narcissistic personality disorder or sociopathic personality disorder. They used to say the same for Borderline Personality Disorder but now there is, not a cure, but a mitigating treatment that helps them get along in our society without actually removing or curing their illness.
So there are (IMHO) diagnosable illness and no treatment or cure for them. I suspect it is getting ‘ready’ for Obamacare that ‘untreatable’ illnesses will not ‘even have a code’ so that the public won’t add them to the list of other treatable illness that Obamacare will refuse to treat.
I think it is terrible - these are recognizable, damaging (to society) illnesses and refusing to name them won’t help. I do wonder if this is the ‘change’ I read about where there will be fewer names for personality disorders but a different way of indicating quality and severity (it’s said to be a continuum with sociopathy at the far end).
No, but Queen Victoria wished it was so. There was actually work on television projects in the 1800s in part because she wanted such a contraption so her public could see her.
I learned this in Charles Francis Jenkins' 1920s book on television (he himself had been working on such devices since the 1890s, and what he called "television", we know as cable-tv, and what he called "radiovision" we know as broadcast television).
“What about hoarders (a years fuel/food/entertainment/ammo(well 10 yr)/etc. supply)?”
I’m guessing they’re grouped under obsessive-compulsive disorder.
And the Nazis had television throughout WWII (even broadcasting the 1936 Olympics on tv). As the war dragged on, only Nazi officials and military hospitals and maybe "USO"-type theaters had viewing systems.
The Nazi Party knew a thing about how to use television for propaganda purposes.
IMO your comment is correct.
In my perspective of things I see Narcissism as the basis of Liberalism. Libs are of the opinion there is no other opinion. The World is wrong, and must be corrected, organized, everything must be neat and orderly, Humanity must be all lined up in straight rows by order of their necessity, their priority.
Their unification with others of their ilk, Collectivism if you will is about the rest of the Narcissistic collective agreeing with them, and vice versa.
I also believe these very lost souls as highly aggressive due their inability to see beyond their relationship with their personal existance, thus their uncompromising defense of their perspectives, and therefore their actions.
I believe as well the Liberal sorts are like magnets to criminal elements who see great opportunity promoting such handicaps.
The following manias have now been eliminated from the big book of illnesses:
Egomania (Al Gore is an alphamale, repeat after me...)
Nymphomania (take two asprin and call me later tonight.)
Beatlemania (She don’t love you no more, no, no, no...)
Narcissism No Longer a Psychiatric Disorder (President no longer clinically insane!)
Pressure from the WH?
A closely related event took place in 1973, when two homosexual psychologists who had managed to get themselves into the power structure of the American Psychological Association (APA) used political maneuvering to get the APA to delete same sex attraction and homosexual behavior from the official compendium of mental health diseases.
Narcissistic Personality Syndrome is often a correlate of homosexual acting out, so it’s no surprise that politics has again trumped science in forcing the powers that be to call sickness health and health sickness. Thanks to the APA. more and more patients are left with no therapists to be found should they want to seek treatment for their disorders.
Mental health professionals who buck rulings of the lock-step ultraLeftist politicized APA are demonized as “out of compliance” if they buck a “professional” ruling of the APA.
>>The insurance companies typically do not pay for some personality disorders already because there is no treatment that works. <<
They did in my office. I was the Office Manager for the Head Psych of a large hospital. They paid for behavioral therapies if nothing else.
What a co-inky-dink.
Sad state of affairs.
Politics running amok! You can see it in every walk of life bar none.
For a medical commission to do this is just incredible.
Same with the CIA and FBI hiring practices and leakages that are about protecting one party, NOT the country.
Many people should be jailed for not being honest with the public that’s paying their salaries and benefits.
For the sake of The Republic, it’s about time that Americans start acting American.
0b0z0 can’t because he’s not American, his insanity notwithstanding.
and pressure OFF the WH.
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Yea but, are we (I) off the hook now?
“Im guessing theyre grouped under obsessive-compulsive disorder.”
I heard that too