Birthers Cling to Case With an OC Connection Claiming Obama is Ineligible to be President

OC Weekly ^ | 12/01/2010 | Chasen Marshall

[FreeAtlanta]

​Political Vel Craft ("Veil of Politics") is an amazing site with ads against the climate change "con," a link to the U.S. Debt Clock and blanket coverage of the WikiLeaks-exposed marriage between the United Kingdom and The Illuminati. There's also a call for U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts to intervene on behalf of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, who is being court-martialed for refusing to serve under Barack Obama. The military man seems destined to lose his "courageous" legal quest to have Obama declared ineligible to be Commander in Chief, laments the site.

But Political Vel Craft notes in another post that a separate birther case still has legs,... frpa

[FreeAtlanta]

The left can't leave this one alone. It is like a moth drawn to a camp fire, or a kid who has to put his hand on a hot stove.

It is fascinating and would be entertaining if it wasn't so serious.

[Genoa]

Cling ping!!

[PATRIOT1876]

I'm extremely suspicious of anyone who doesn't know that climate change is a con. Either they are liars in on the scam or are easily duped.

Be a good group that you could pull all the grifting from the movie “Paper Moon.”

The money drop, the birthday name on the $20 bill, the scam where the little girl confuses the cashier and gets more change back than the size of the bill.

All these can easily by played on people who still believe in AGW.

[Menehune56]

You're right, the anti-birthers just can't leave the eligibility issue alone. I was surprised that such a snarky little article would appear in a magazine from used-to-be conservative Orange County.

I guess it's the same mentality of some folks you can see right here on FR spending hours ridiculing and mocking people with reasonable concerns about an important issue. Suppressing resolution of the issue using legal technicalities isn't going to make it go away. Far from it.

[FreeAtlanta]

I suspect that a lot of the people posting here, to try to diminish and confuse such an important issue with such a simple solution, are really Obama or left-wing supporters.

They are either government employees paid to sit on sites like this, or someone from ACORN or other George Soros backed group.

[Seizethecarp]

ping...

[IMR 4350]

“I suspect that a lot of the people posting here, to try to diminish and confuse such an important”

You give them more of a benefit of the doubt than I do. I don’t have a doubt in my mind that a lot, make that most, are.

[Seizethecarp]

From the OC article:

“Obama Eligibility Case Before The Ninth Circuit Court: Barnett v. Obama NO. 09-56827” includes this quote United States Justice Foundation Executive Director Gary Kreep made to World Net Daily: “According to case law, candidates have standing to challenge the eligibility of other candidates. The Department of Justice, which is handling Obama’s defense, is not even addressing standing. They're saying it's a political question and therefore shouldn't be decided by the courts.”

While naysayers assign a near zero chance of success for Kreep’s case (that would include virtually every FReeper who claims to be an attorney IIRC), my understanding as an admitted non-lawyer is that SCOTUS sometimes “waits” for the “right” case to come along for them to make a controversial ruling.

SCOTUS knows that Kreep’s case with Keyes is working its way up the appeals process. Unlike Apuzzo’s case which was based primarily on speculation that Kerchner might at some time in the future be harmed in the future by an unlawful CIC, Keyes was actually harmed by running against and losing to Obama, arguable a non-NBC dual citizan and claimed by numerous Kenyans to have been born in Kenya.

So when the Keyes/Kreep case reaches SCOTUS, the NBC issue and the right of Keyes to request discovery of the HI vital records issue could actually come before SCOTUS for the first time.

The NBC aspect of Apuzzo’s case was never “reached” by SCOTUS because standing was never allowed by it or by any of the federal courts. Thus the definition of NBC has never been litigated on the merits. In my understanding a failure to accept standing for Apuzzo’s client was not an affirmation by SCOTUS that Obama is an NBC. SCOTUS simply affirmed the lower courts’ rulings that Kerchner lacked standing.

[little jeremiah]

Yes.

Real conservatives who think the issue is going nowhere (and I know a lot on FR) just leave these threads alone and spend their valuable time fighting in other areas.

The d***wds who p*** on these threads over and over and over again are either volunteer leftists, paid leftists, or just burrs under the saddle because they are d***wads in general who torment people for fun. Everyone knew some like that in school.

Sorry for language but I’m restraining myself.

[Boogieman]

“You’re right, the anti-birthers....”

I prefer to call them “after-birthers”, since they’re always going after the “birthers”.

[Menehune56]

I like that term - thanks!

[LucyT]

Article, then # 7 , # 8.

[Thanks, Seizethecarp.]

[IMR 4350]

I find it hard to believe that anyone half a step ahead of an idiot is ignorant enough to believe you can be born a dual citizen and a natural born citizen to one of the country's at the same time.

Only an Obama supporter could be truly that ignorant.

Only a few of the people that comment on this sight and claim Zippo is a NBC, strike me as being truly that ignorant.

The rest, when you read their comments, show they are not ignorant, they're just pretending to be ignorant to try and support their position that Zippo is an NBC. There is no reason to pretend to be ignorant unless you are a Zippo supporter.

[melancholy]

Keyes was actually harmed by running against and losing to Obama, arguable a non-NBC dual citizan

Looks like you agree on what I have been saying for over a year. 0b0z0 won't dare run for '12, precisely because of this!

If one naturalized citizen runs for POTUS in '12, gets thrown out off the ballot as s/he should, sues for leveling the playing field and demanding that ALL candidates prove beyond ANY forensic doubt that they're NBC, that "injured" naturalized citizen will have the elusive "STANDING" to courts taking up the case.

If 0b0z0 is thrown out of ONE SINGLE ballot by a SoS, even in a red state that he'll definitely lose, HE'S TOAST!

I still believe that 0commie won't run because he couldn't possibly take the consequences of rejection of the usurping narcissi POS. He could do something to himself as a result!

However, narcissism isn't a personal disorder per the well-paid psychiatric commission concluded! Yeah right, LOL!

[Drew68]

While naysayers assign a near zero chance of success for Kreep’s case (that would include virtually every FReeper who claims to be an attorney IIRC),

These attorney FReepers have a pretty good track record so far. Yet they're still dismissed as trolls and o-bots for successfully predicting the outcome --and in most cases explaining exactly why these birther lawsuits have been and will be doomed to failure.

[little jeremiah]

I agree.

[Menehune56]

I still believe that 0commie won't run because he couldn't possibly take the consequences of rejection of the usurping narcissi POS. He could do something to himself as a result!

My guess is that Obama's behind the scenes enablers and excusers will induce him not to run or even to step down to prevent even a hint that the hated birthers may have been right all along. The consequences of Obama's utter fraudulence being proved would be massive and that scenario cannot be allowed to occur.

[AmericanVictory]

Standing was found in Hollister v. Soetoro a/k/a Obama. It was dismissed for failure to state a claim and is now up on a cert petition. Thus it raises merits questions.

[bitt]

see #18

[danamco]

The answer in a nut shell:!!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2636130/posts?page=28#28