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DeMint Drops Bid to Delay Action on New START (selling America OUT)
National Journal ^ | December 15, 2010 | By Megan Scully and Rebecca Kaplan

Posted on 12/15/2010 4:20:59 PM PST by stockpirate

Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., backed off threats today to force a reading of the New START arms-reduction treaty after the White House assailed the delay tactic as a “new low.”

Senate leaders had estimated that a full reading of the accord could take 15 hours, which would have thrown a wrench into ambitious plans to finish work on New START, an omnibus spending bill, and several other pieces of legislation before the Senate adjourns for the year.

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To: savedbygrace
I'm with you! Sen DeMint has been one of the few voices we can count on. Lets get some facts before we flip out.
41 posted on 12/15/2010 4:47:28 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: stockpirate

Talk big and collapse like a house of cards witht eh slightest criticism.


42 posted on 12/15/2010 4:48:42 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Evil Slayer
Yeah, I'm sure Palin would go on Fox and trash Jim DeMint. It's amazing here how quickly people dump on everyone (except Sarah Palin, of course). One minute DeMint is our hero, the next he's a lousy RINO, CINO, selling us out, etc.
43 posted on 12/15/2010 4:49:19 PM PST by ejdrapes (Obamacare is both too complicated to succeed and to broken to repair)
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To: stockpirate

WTF? Read the treaty dammit! DeMint: do it or you are done with me.


44 posted on 12/15/2010 4:49:20 PM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: stockpirate

See that Pissant. This is your butt boy. Real spine there. You wonder why we support Sarah. Here’s a clue. She is the only one that will stand up to the socialists and doesn’t mind taking all the crap thrown her way.


45 posted on 12/15/2010 4:49:59 PM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, the only cure for the RINO virus.)
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To: stockpirate; All

I left the GOP after the Nevada primary when the asshat RINOs came out of the woodwork and pulled their collective pants down and bent over for Reid.


46 posted on 12/15/2010 4:51:28 PM PST by Dogbert41
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To: savedbygrace

So you think its good to wipe out half our nuclear subs while China is building nuclear subs? What about not retaliating with nuclear weapons after we have been hit by a biological and/or chemical attack?

This is coming from a Senate that is worried that the next Senate will not pass it. The fact that it’s being rammed down should give you great concern.


47 posted on 12/15/2010 4:51:50 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: stockpirate

DeMint is a disgrace. Always giving up. Just keep delaying everything, using every known and yet undiscovered loophole and procedure!!!!


48 posted on 12/15/2010 4:52:07 PM PST by heiss
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To: wmfights

“Man, you guys fold like cheap suits. Have a little faith. Sen. DeMint has always been a solid conservative and he has been a big supporter of new conservatives getting elected. He has taken on incumbent rino’s in the primaries. This treaty hasn’t been passed yet, maybe he stopped the reading because he’s got the votes to stop it.”

-See my comment #35.


49 posted on 12/15/2010 4:52:49 PM PST by Qbert
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To: ejdrapes
No ... I have the time that she served as Governor and her decisions and actions during that period to go by.

I spent all day on the phone calling DC. Did you? I spoke to many Senate offices and I spoke with DeMint's people... they registered my statement and refused to discuss anything beyond DeMint “standing strong”. I did not bash him... I pointed out that it appears that he caved and that Sarah has never caved... and she had ample opportunity in Alaska to do so... taking the easy route... but she never did.

If DeMint did bail out... and it appears at this point that he did... he has done himself tremendous damage. Some of us have ZERO tolerance for any further political bullsh!t. That is it... bottom line... no negotiation.

LLS

50 posted on 12/15/2010 4:54:11 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: stockpirate
SHUT IT DOWN, DeMint. It is unconscionable that Congress presses on in the face of a clear message from the electorate. Many of those casting votes are no longer answerable to the people; they have already been fired.

The one glimmer of hope is that you have a fallback plan and this is just tactical.

And this is another sign that the Senate is not the place from which to run for President.

51 posted on 12/15/2010 4:55:26 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: stockpirate
"Senator DeMint opposes ramming the controversial START Treaty in the lame duck session," Denton said. "After Senator DeMint asked for the entire treaty to be read aloud to slow down the process, Senator Reid relented and agreed to delay the debate until tomorrow."

I don't think Demint caved at all. I watched part of this unfold on C-Span and thought at the time that Demint dropped his plan to call for a full reading, and in exchange Reid agree to hold no more roll call votes today, and to take up START again tomorrow and allow more reasonable debate time.

I think the changes in the Senate schedule for this afternoon and tomorrow more or less stretched out any vote on START about the same amount of time a full reading would have.

And I think Demint also had plans to call for a full reading of the 2,000 page omnibus spending bill. We still have that one to watch.

52 posted on 12/15/2010 4:56:00 PM PST by Will88
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To: savedbygrace
...none of the FReepers on this thread know all the facts involved, yet they are blasting DeMint as though he were an enemy of the Republic.

Perhaps we are reacting in haste, but DeMint could have still demanded a full reading of the bill to fill up the time required for the treason lobby to get the rest of their horrid agenda passed.

Reading the START bill would have eaten up 15 hours of precious time, which would have helped to forestall the damage these Democrats intend to do to us.

I'm sorry, but I think he should have stood firm, even if he's got the votes to defeat this. Giving concessions to the enemy is bad business.

53 posted on 12/15/2010 4:56:10 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: stockpirate

He dropped the reading after Ried delayed the vote the same amount of time it would have taken to read it.....this is lies from your friendly lying MSM spinning the story against the truth.


54 posted on 12/15/2010 4:56:47 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: wmfights

Why do they have to ram it through. That ALONE should clue you that it’s a bad deal.

What I’m hearing about wait until we hear what DeMint says. I remember hearing the same people on Free Republic say that about Bush and Karl Rove on some liberal bills and the Dubai Ports deal. Just wait.. Just wait... Yeah right!


55 posted on 12/15/2010 4:57:22 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: stockpirate

here is the MSM trying to make it look like this happened after criticism from the weak one .....it was after the dems folded to DeMint’s demand....


56 posted on 12/15/2010 4:58:31 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: Qbert
Treaties need 67 senators for ratification...

I wish that were true, but the Constitution says only two thirds of those present, could be only three members need be present and voting.

57 posted on 12/15/2010 5:00:04 PM PST by itsahoot (We the people allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: stockpirate

DeMint didnt chicken out...harrah reid said he wouldnt start debate on START til tomorrow in exchange for not reading the bill.


58 posted on 12/15/2010 5:00:51 PM PST by biggredd1
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To: savedbygrace

I’ll bet most of us are on demint’s email list. If demint caves, it’s no better than any other rino sucking up. I

If you are not for the constitution, if you vote against it, you are the enemy. If demint caves, he’s no better than Pelosi or Reid. The bottom line is upholding the constitution. If demint agrees with the dark side, then he is in the enemy camp. I really don’t care anymore.

I will not hold any allegiance to any person. I’m hoping demint won’t cave, is this a propaganda campaign against him?


59 posted on 12/15/2010 5:00:57 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: savedbygrace

The fact that they are RAMING IT THROUGH should be a clue enough that something is wrong with it.

It’s like a used car dealership trying to say “you have to buy it now you have to buy it now” B.S.

Why does it have to be done before the new Senators come in. Common you know what’s going on here. Any time someone tries to rush something then you KNOW it’s bad.


60 posted on 12/15/2010 5:01:36 PM PST by Sprite518
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