Posted on 12/27/2010 10:31:54 AM PST by trumandogz
The Civil War is about to loom very large in the popular memory. We would do well to be candid about its causes and not allow the distortions of contemporary politics or long-standing myths to cloud our understanding of why the nation fell apart.
The coming year will mark the 150th anniversary of the onset of the conflict, which is usually dated to April 12, 1861, when Confederate batteries opened fire at 4:30 a.m. on federal troops occupying Fort Sumter. Union forces surrendered the next day, after 34 hours of shelling.
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You're not even close.
It was the conservative South against the liberal north. Nothing's changed in that respect.
So why don’t you trip the hammer?
Lincoln was a tyrant. No better than a Saddam Hussein. Sherman no better than Hitler.
don’t bring him into it? are you high? RE Lee has everything to do with how the South can been seen as a valiant defeated people BECAUSE of the way he acted and the way he accepted the defeat.
He has everything to do with it. Don’t even try to take him out of it.
Are you saying that Lincoln didn’t say this?
““I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”
by:
Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
Source:
Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
(The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, pp. 145-146.)
Lincoln In His Own Words: Abraham Lincoln’s First Inaugural Address, Monday, March 4, 1861
Lincoln Acknowledged The Right To Succeed:
“The Chief Magistrate derives all his authority from the people, and they have referred none upon him to fix terms for the separation of the States. The people themselves can do this if also they choose, but the Executive as such has nothing to do with it. His duty is to administer the present Government as it came to his hands and to transmit it unimpaired by him to his successor.” - 30th Paragraph
Trumanndogz... hmmmm. Interesting.
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”
by:
Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
Source:
Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
(The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, pp. 145-146.)
Keep your eyes open, he’ll be here with one of his other names, a new name and a new IP. But he won’t be hard to spot.
YOU have absolutely NO idea as to what you are talking about.
The book I cited was THE excepted law textbook in every major school in the country for more than 50 years after it’s publication!
Beautiful! Global warming in Dixie?
What you read as "poking the South in the eye with a stick", I read as a reasonable prescription to avoid war. We know how doing things your way turned out for the South. Do you think my way (Lincoln's prescription as he outlined in the address) could have possibly turned out any worse?
Say what u will, but he is NO traitor!
More evidence I suppose that had the South bothered to take their withdrawal from the Union to court they would have prevailed.
-btw Does Blackstone render an opinion on the consequences of firing cannon at a nation's flag?
What a crock! One of my Confederate Ancestors from Texas, didn’t own a slave, he was a RANCHER! He could have given a d*mn less about slavery, one way or the other. He fought to stop Yankees from invading!
Your idea of a “Free Republic” is a hell of a lot different than mine.
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Agree! His idea of free is a global government.
I proudly fly the flag right a long with my American flag. One represents my country, the other my heritage.
Abraham Lincoln was a Saint.
mojitojoe Lincoln was a tyrant. No better than a Saddam Hussein. Sherman no better than Hitler.
Closer and closer to that 500 mark!
By the way, I'm a direct descendant of John Brown, yep, that John Brown. My opinion of him is that he was a terrorist.
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