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China's New Missile: A Game Changer?
Investor's Business Daily ^ | December 28, 2010 | IBD staff

Posted on 12/28/2010 7:43:01 PM PST by raptor22

China's Challenge: As tensions elevate on the Korean peninsula, Pyongyang's patron deploys a weapon designed to sink the very ships we are sending to protect an ally. This does not bode well.

The prospects that the Korean War, which ended in only an interminable armistice, may resume has become an increasingly real possibility in recent months.

That its patron, China, without which North Korea would collapse of its own rot, now has deployed a missile designed to target and sink U.S. carrier battle groups adds a new and disturbing element to any confrontation in the region.

Admiral Robert Willard, commander of the U.S. Pacific Command, told the Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun last Sunday that China's touted "carrier-killer," an anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM) designated the Dong Feng-21D, had reached "initial operational capability."

This version of China's land-based mobile medium-range missile is off the drawing boards and in the field.

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: bmd; china; defense; df21d; dongfeng21d; gbi; military; missiledefense; nationaldefense; newstart; obama; start; starttreaty; usnavy
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To: grey_whiskers

Not with the Bambster in office he would never allow the collateral damage of taking out the dam. We would just retreat back to Hawaii and send a formal apology for our impertinence.


41 posted on 12/28/2010 9:13:30 PM PST by redangus
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To: grey_whiskers
Curtis LeMay I wonder what would he think....
42 posted on 12/28/2010 9:22:12 PM PST by traumer
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To: raptor22

This particular “new missile” is so old ass frakin’ news it simply amazes the frak out of me that idiots are still writing articles on it. Good frakin’ grief! =.=


44 posted on 12/28/2010 10:07:32 PM PST by cranked
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To: raptor22
My guess right now is that the DF-21 ASBM will use a nuclear warhead in the 50-75 kT range to guarantee a "kill" against a Nimitz-class carrier. Otherwise, with the current Standard missiles launched from US Navy cruisers and destroyers and the surprising maneuverability of modern carriers, such a missile could end up being destroyed in flight or missing the carrier by thousands of feet
45 posted on 12/28/2010 10:52:47 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: John Leland 1789

Is the 3 gorges dam more valuable than a supercarrier?


46 posted on 12/28/2010 11:40:57 PM PST by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we finally revolt.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn; grey_whiskers

Actually:

Nimitz Class carrier : 4.5 billion
3 Gorges Dam : 26 billion

via Wikipedia


47 posted on 12/28/2010 11:46:00 PM PST by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we finally revolt.)
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To: pissant
"The price we’ve paid for handing China our manufacturing technology on a silver platter, just so fat ladies in stretchy pants can buy more chinese made crap at Walmart and Sears."

That's the real topic behind the topic. As for realization of capabilities handed to the PLA by our business, political and academic leaders, that will come. And I'm here on I Told You So Hill to watch the consequences of that vanity and idiocy from afar.


48 posted on 12/29/2010 12:06:20 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Williams
"IMHO conventional weakness may eventually lead to a devastating nuclear war with the Chinese, or else a huge loss of our World position."

That conventional weakness is already manifest. Oil and fuel will continue to go higher, IMO. We need to rebuild here.


49 posted on 12/29/2010 12:26:28 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: familyop
Assuming that the NorKs attack South Korea and the Chinese and U.S. get involved, Obama won't know which of the two — Pyongyang or Beijing — to surrender to.

If such a war were to occur, the Usurper would be very conflicted.

50 posted on 12/29/2010 12:47:37 AM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: Williams
...risking a nuclear exchange is not where you want to be.

There's another reason why nuclear missles aren't a panacea. Imagine (if you can hold your stomach) you're the next Hitler. You know about America's nuclear arsenal.

Where are you going to put the concentration camps?

51 posted on 12/29/2010 2:40:26 AM PST by danielmryan
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To: Eaker

“I personally want our enemies to KNOW that we will nuke their ass if required. “
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That is exactly why I had wished that we had deployed the smallest nuke in our arsenal at Tora Bora - whether it was actually needed or not - just to illustrate the point that we would use them whenever we felt like we wanted to. It was the perfect opportunity.


52 posted on 12/29/2010 6:09:22 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: raptor22

The chicom scum have nothing to fear in response to sinking a Supercarrier as long as Emperor bammy the Ever Bowing is in charge of the nuclear football.

He’d start dropping nukes on Israel before he’d ever risk our credit line with the bank of beijing.


53 posted on 12/29/2010 6:24:56 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: ROTB
You'd have to add to the loss costs the Chinese would incur, the value of the big cities downriver of Three Gorges, in the Yangtze estuary and delta. And they're big.

There's nothing to stop that water between Three Gorges and the sea.

54 posted on 12/29/2010 8:06:09 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: raptor22

BTTT!


55 posted on 12/29/2010 9:46:32 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: andyk; raptor22; All
Here's the source of my deja vu, from last year, here on the FR. Just over a year ago:

China to build anti-ship missile
56 posted on 12/29/2010 11:33:52 AM PST by andyk (Hi, my name's Andy, and I am a BF 1942 / Desert Combat junkie.)
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To: ROTB
Three Gorges Dam cannot project power any further than downstream once it is breached.

We are comparing the ancillary damage from the dam to that which a single carrier could inflict before buying it, in a hot war. (cf Tom Clancy's line in Red Storm Rising in which he said "...doctrine dictated a four-carrier group to survive up here")

Cheers@

57 posted on 12/29/2010 8:47:53 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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