Posted on 01/11/2011 7:37:17 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
That's not how it ends. It ends with all big-box retailer shelves empty and most assembly lines in the US shut down for lack of component parts.
Exactly. US will leave China alone, period. Too much business investment in China already & you believe those big corps will sit & watch their investment disappear? Will never happen.
US is not a super power with principles anymore. We are ruled by people under 50 & “we are a nation of wusses”
If there is a traitor in chief, Russia or China can launch a first strike nuclear attack, and we won’t reply in kind. Clintons PDD that the US would not give launch codes if an attack was spotted incoming. We would first absorb a nuclear strike. This would give the advantage to our attackers, as many of our missiles would be destroyed. We have now signed on to another treaty with the true “Evil Empire” virtually guaranteeing a 3rd World War. Anyone that knows history, can see that before the war, the enemy moves to constrain the West with new “peace treaties” once they have moved to a point where they have superior position, they will strike. China and Russia want us dead, any other reading of their intent is wrong.
We have an agreement that 50% of our Tridents will remain in port at all times. The Russians/Chinese will kill them with first strike. Plus we have converted a lot of the Tridents to conventional per other treaties, and of course traitorous commanders.
China is prepared to “lose” 900,000,000 people. They would still have enough to do damage. They are in cahoots with the Russians, and will attack through Alaska....remember this warning. I see it coming within the next five years. Nuclear war is survivable if you are out of the blast zone. Both Russia and China have taught their populations how to do so, while we cry and moan about “nuclear winter”. Does anyone seriously think that 0 has the tessicles (little Larry Holmes lingo) to stand up to them? The next 6 years are going to be frightening, that much is sure.....and yes, I do believe 0 will win the Presidency. It is necessary for “Evil”(noun) that he remains in charge
The Difference between Palin and obama is that only one of them has the balls to stand up and intimidate china and get them to back down. hint: it ain’t obama!
obama is rapidly disarming our country and china is rapidly arming, within a few years we will be no match for the chinese military.
On a side note, clinton gave the chinese the technical knowledge to upgrade their military. Their computer and guidance systems were so bad ,they were lucky to get within 100 miles of a target. of course the technical knowledge given to the chinese were to be used for “non-military” purposes only.
>> China is prepared to “lose” 900,000,000 people. They would still have enough to do damage.
Heck, after losing 900 million people they’d still have more population than we currently do!
Of course, the vast majority of those left alive after a nuclear strike would be poor, rural dwellers — with (hopefully) no manufacturing infrastructure left to arm them.
I think the event that has put most sobered me to Red China is when I went to the local McCoy’s (an old Texas establishment) the other day and all the cabinet plywood in birch, maple and oak was made in China. I didn’t and won’t buy any and I told the store manage I wouldn’t.
I simply can’t understand how it is cost effective to ship raw timber to china, make it into plywood and ship it back over here. Is it regulation or labor or what that drives this?
Whatever it is, it doesn’t work for me. No more finish plywood from McCoy’s for me and I’ll be on the lookout for more made in china.
In our house, if it can only come from china, we don’t buy it. Nothing much but JUNK.
America would mouth a lot of hot air, but in the end we would abandon Taiwan and probably without even a shot fired.
The Taiwanese have set up a very good, in depth defense posture which could stop a lot of those cruise missiles, something that the US has.
Having said that, no system is 100%, but the Chinese have to throw a lot up because they know that most will be shot down or FAIL. They still have not got the system working at operational levels which can provide any level of comfort to the leaders.
These are not rosy projections. We have defenses, they are trying to overcome them. Once they feel that they have an acceptable edge, they will force the issue. Our job, is to keep raising the bar, so that an acceptable edge is never reached.
China and Russia have a lot of their military infrastructure underground, along with manufacturing facilities. The Russians have an entire city that our nuclear inspectors have never been allowed to inspect, that we “suspect” is the heart of the war industry. As a matter of fact, the Russians have said that “we will never allow inspections”....while we sign peace treaties....THANKS Republicans.
I think this is an optimistic view of what might happen. I believe that what ever the Chinese do it would be fast, we would not have a chance to re-act well. With Obama asleep at the switch—I don’t think he would be able to come to a decision before it would be all over. the Chinese would act with other allies too—maybe have North Korea do something or something in the Middle East to keep us occupied. I could see a “fifth Column” in Taiwan operating. It would fall fast. But, how would Americans feel if a carrier rolled over and sank taking 1,000 men and women to Davy Jones Locker? I don’t think this would stay a local conflict long. The war would be the start of WW III. America would have few friends in such a conflict and I believe she might well lose and have to pull out of Asia—maybe give up Guam to China, perhaps even Hawaii (It would be an independent Kingdom—a Chinese client state) In the peace treaty expect millions of Chinese Workers to come to the US. Then China will move on Vietnam, Indonesia, and Malaysia. Lets hope wiser heads prevail.
“Is it regulation or labor or what that drives this?”
Yes, both.
My opinion. Obama would not retaliate. He would go to the UN.
Had This insanity been in place during the Second World War, we would all be shouting Seig Heil to the Third Reich, and building autos for Japan!
China doesn't have enough nuclear ballistic submarines to ensure a mutually assured destruction. But they are working on building a fleet of them. Would you then give the same advice when they do have them?
Plus, can you be confident that their land based nuclear missles, if not a mutual destruction, at least partial destruction of the US. And all over Taiwan? And also, once again, in the future, when even the land based can assure a mutual assurd destruction, will you still make such a suggestion?
Why is it in our best interests to defend Taiwan at enormous cost?
You don’t need “complete destruction” to completely wreck our country. 9 or 10 strategic bombs and we would be back in the 18th century.
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