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Cuban-American Lawmakers Blast Obama's Plan to Ease Cuba Travel Restrictions
Fox News ^ | 1/16/11 | Staff

Posted on 01/16/2011 8:47:16 AM PST by Nachum

Republican lawmakers of Cuban descent sharply criticized President Obama's plans to loosen Cuban travel policy to allow students and church groups to go to the communist country, saying the changes will benefit the Castro regime while doing little for the average citizen. "Loosening these regulations will not help foster a pro-democracy environment in Cuba," said U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, chairwoman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. "These changes will not aid in ushering in respect for human rights. And they certainly will not help the Cuban people free themselves from the tyranny that engulfs them."

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KEYWORDS: blast; cubanamerican; cubatravel; lawmakers; obamas

1 posted on 01/16/2011 8:47:21 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 01/16/2011 8:47:47 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

People never learn.

Obama knows best. He is “The Won’.

Even old Fidel laughs at this ice cream eating dolt.


3 posted on 01/16/2011 8:49:35 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Nachum

note to cuban american lawmakers, BO doesn’t care what you think.


4 posted on 01/16/2011 8:53:29 AM PST by television is just wrong
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To: Nachum
To be honest, I don't see how our past policy of isolation has worked in convincing the Cuban People to overthrow the commie regime.

It has been 50 years and we have accomplished nothing by this policy. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

The Soviet Empire collapsed because the Soviets were no longer able to isolate their people from the influences of the "free world" if such a world even exists anymore.

Maybe it is time to reassess this policy. I don't know, but what we have done to date hasn't accomplished squat.

5 posted on 01/16/2011 8:55:35 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Nachum

castro’s buddy, chavez, is happy...


6 posted on 01/16/2011 8:55:57 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Nachum

Michael Moeere is happy, happy, happy.


7 posted on 01/16/2011 9:17:42 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Skin-color counters are bigots!!...(thanks paulycy))
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To: Nachum
Besides travel, Americans will be able to send remittances of up to $2000 per year to non-family-member Cubans. The only restriction is that it can't go to a "senior member of the communist party". I don't know how all this works, but that seems to leave open the possibility that you could give to a junior member, who would then just hand it over to a senior member. Which sounds like a great way for American lefties to funnel money to their beloved Castro -- especially if the remittances are not tightly overseen by whatever agency is supposed to oversee them. Probably me being cynical, but mind goes immediately to the Obama campaign and their very, um, loose policy with credit card contributions. It does not come naturally to trust these same people with controlling the $$ flow into Cuba. Even the guy quoted in the article who supports the new policies admits they will put money in the regime's pockets.
8 posted on 01/16/2011 9:25:31 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Nachum
Students and church groups only? After being vetting by the Cuban government?

For indoctrination and photo ops only.

Many true Christian charity groups have been working in Cuba for years, without the blessing of the government.

9 posted on 01/16/2011 9:30:03 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: P-Marlowe

I agree. As much as I hate the kenyan being president, I can’t disagree with this. Nixon went to China. We’ve been playing with Russia since WWII. Why is it we pretend Cuba doesn’t exist? One reason is the Cuban vote in Florida. Another is the sugar cane lobby.


10 posted on 01/16/2011 9:40:30 AM PST by Terry Mross (I voted for McCain and WASTED my vote.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Tourists from all over the world visit Cuba, and it hasn’t made one iota of difference.


11 posted on 01/16/2011 9:41:34 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Terry Mross
One reason is the Cuban vote in Florida.

That's another thing I don't understand. If these people loved Cuba, you'd think they'd want to have the freedom to travel there and visit with their relatives. They've been isolated for 50 years. What good has it done?

Another is the sugar cane lobby.

Not to mention the tobacco lobby (or what is left of it).

12 posted on 01/16/2011 9:45:32 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Terry Mross
Tourists from all over the world visit Cuba, and it hasn’t made one iota of difference.

Neither has our policy of isolation. I thought we were supposed to be a free nation, yet we, as American citizens, can't travel to an island 90 miles from our border because.... ?

Well, why exactly?

We can travel to Iran and Syria and Venezuela, but we can't travel to Cuba?

Are we at war with Cuba?

Has Congress declared war? If so, then why don't we just march our Navy in there and do what we did in Panama?

13 posted on 01/16/2011 9:51:22 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
you'd think they'd want to have the freedom to travel there and visit with their relatives

No doubt they do, and the fact that they're willing to forego it is a pretty strong statement. These people have a special insight into what will help and what will hurt the Castro regime. I'm inclined to follow their lead in terms of policy.

14 posted on 01/16/2011 10:03:07 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
These people have a special insight into what will help and what will hurt the Castro regime.

It has been 50 Years! What "insight" do they have that the Canadians or the Brits don't? Most of these people were born here and raised here and have never set foot on Cuban soil. They have no fond memories of life under Bautista.

I'm inclined to follow their lead in terms of policy.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting different results. It hasn't worked for 50 years. It will not work if we do it another 50 years. We need to reassess our policy. Either that or just admit we are insane.

15 posted on 01/16/2011 10:10:37 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Pride in the USA
From Marco Rubio:

"I believe that what does need to change are the Cuban regime's repressive policies towards the independent press and labor unions, it's imprisonment of political prisoners and constant harassments of citizens with dissenting views, and its refusal to allow free multi-party elections," he added. "It is unthinkable that the administration would enable the enrichment of a Cuban regime that routinely violates the basic human rights and dignity of its people."

We need a lot more just like him in the Senate.

16 posted on 01/16/2011 10:29:01 AM PST by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: Nachum

I’m sick of hyphens. One is either an American or one is not.


17 posted on 01/16/2011 10:35:50 AM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: P-Marlowe
It has been 50 Years!

Yes, 50 years since the revolution, but not 50 years since people have lived under Castro. I used to work with a guy who got out of Cuba about 10 years ago. I haven't spoken with him recently, but my guess is he'd be incredulous that we're loosening our policy towards Cuba.

What "insight" do they have that the Canadians or the Brits don't?

Yeah, because you gain a lot of insight by vacationing for a week at a Cuban beach resort and screwing Cuban hookers. Have the Canadians or the Brits lived under Castro? Are the Canadians or the Brits in contact with relatives who live under Castro?

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting different results. It hasn't worked for 50 years.

I haven't particularly been expecting the policy to lead to an overthrow of Castro, have you? The fact is that they have an entrenched regime that will not reform, and that's not going anywhere short of another revolution. But by playing hardball with the current regime, by not blinking, we are strengthening our hand with subsequent Cuban governments, who will not be so willful. The payoff will come when Castro is gone, if we don't fold now.

18 posted on 01/16/2011 10:40:50 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: P-Marlowe

“I don’t see how our past policy of isolation has worked in convincing the Cuban People to overthrow the commie regime.”

You have missed the point, but it’s not your fault.

The isolationism was to cover up Kennedy’s mucking up the Cuban invasion. He mucked it up royally. He was 100% at fault for this disaster. He lost; and like a little kid, he tried to shift the focus. A little island like Cuba beat back the U.S.

Oh, and P.S. Here is some information few folks in the U.S. know. Tons and tons of food fly into Panama from merchants in the States. They are then rerouted and flown to Cuba.

Unfortunately, little if any reaches the folk on the street. I need not explain to whom it goes.

There was a small store across the street from my hotel where Cubans in good standing and foreigners could buy. They had U.S. goods although not too much (“sparse” I suppose is the word); but it was on the shelves.

Again, Kennedy sure was just another wonder of an idiot.


19 posted on 01/16/2011 10:58:31 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) (1)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
The biggest fallacy of all is there's an “embargo” on Cuba for American goods. It's a steaming pile of bovine excrement. Cuba can “buy” any American goods it's heart desires. The only thing “embargoed” is credit. Castro's the biggest deadbeat in the world.
20 posted on 01/16/2011 11:34:41 AM PST by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: P-Marlowe

“yet we, as American citizens, can’t travel to an island 90 miles from our border because.... ?”

Well,,, I figured it was so Castro wouldn’t get any bucks from here. He nationalized any American companies that were in Cuba, and seized any American assets he could. Cuban Missile Crisis. Stuff like that.


21 posted on 01/16/2011 11:50:16 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Well,,, I figured it was so Castro wouldn’t get any bucks from here. He nationalized any American companies that were in Cuba, and seized any American assets he could. Cuban Missile Crisis. Stuff like that.

That was 50 years ago. 50. How has this policy of isolation worked? What has it accomplished in the last 50 years?

We have made friends with North Vietnam, China and Russia in that time. We are still friends with Venezuela and Mexico (who has been systematically invading the US for the last 50 years). But we have isolated Cuba. Boy we really taught them a lesson, didn't we? What lesson exactly have we taught them?

22 posted on 01/16/2011 12:00:39 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

I forgot to add the Mariel Boatlift. Castro publicly stated “I have flushed the toilets of Cuba on the United States.” He emptied the jails of criminals, and also emptied the insane asylums, and shipped them here. I say we shouldn’t spend our bucks in Cuba. If you really want to go, I think you can get there easily from the Bahamas.


23 posted on 01/16/2011 12:23:09 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
If you really want to go, I think you can get there easily from the Bahamas.

I have zero desire to go there. OTOH, I don't think I should try to prevent others from doing something that I don't like. That is what Liberals do. They don't like people smoking, so they outlaw smoking. They don't like people using gun metaphors, so they outlaw gun metaphors. They don't like guns, so they want to keep everyone from owning one.

The Isolation policy has not worked any more than gun control laws have prevented criminals from using them to commit crimes.

If a policy hasn't worked in 50 years, should you continue to insist that it will and then keep it up for another 50 years? Or should you maybe admit that it hasn't worked and come up with a new policy that might?

24 posted on 01/16/2011 12:37:08 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: HenpeckedCon

So true. Thank you.


25 posted on 01/16/2011 12:47:14 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) (1)
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