Posted on 01/25/2011 12:45:01 PM PST by ColdOne
President Obama’s advisers were still discussing late Monday how to deal with calls by Democrats for him to embrace some kind of gun control legislation.
There was at least some possibility that Obama would express support for something concrete in his State of the Union address, perhaps safeguards for keeping weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill.
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AFAIK there has only been one reasonable gun control legislation and even that has been manipulated to say things it doesn't.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
BATF should be a convenience store.
I believe that anyone who uses a firearm in the commission of a crime should be punished for the crime they commit.
The presence or absence of a gun should have no bearing on the punishment, mind you - the actual offense that is committed should define the punishment.
Effin morons. No federal law is required. I don't know about any other state but here in MA, it's all part of the process. Question 8 on the MA LTC Application would seem to cover it. Plus, the form that you fill out at time of purchase reiterates that question.
My problem with your solution is that there is no judicial review before a constitutional right is denied a citizen, most likely for life. What standard is used by the military for recruit testing, if any? Or do they refuse applicants on a verbal confession of drug use? There must be a very high bar set in order to remove a constitutional right from anyone.
There were so many indicators that Laughner was about to go off it shouldn’t have been necessary to obtain input from a recruiter, everybody around the guy predicted he would do what he actually did.
Well, there is this one...
"6th, Trial by jury and rights of the accused; Confrontation Clause, speedy trial, public trial, right to counsel"
A person that is deemed mentally unfit to stand trial can still be deprived of their liberty, although technically, I believe the evaluation is considered part of "due process".
Wait a minute. That is not my solution. I merely recounted what happened, and don’t remember editorializing on whether it was good or bad. But, that said, I don’t think crazy people and drug addicts should drive, and I don’t think they should be running around loose with guns, either.
“I don’t think crazy people and drug addicts should drive, and I don’t think they should be running around loose with guns, either.”
Perhaps they should just be hanged.
Just remember, those lovely progressives that used to run the Soviet Union considered dissidents to be “mentally ill”.
You have to be crazy to oppose the left.
Yep, it’s one of the main reasons I’m watching tonight — other than the fact that Obama’s non-verbal communications are so much fun to watch. He’s a real piece of work, that Barry.
Who, in their right mind, actually fills out forms to purchase a gun?
Just remember, those lovely progressives that used to run the Soviet Union considered dissidents to be “mentally ill”.
“perhaps safeguards for keeping weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill.”
That would include three-quarters of the nuts in the FBI and half in the Secret Service, and all the fruitcakes in the ATF and Interior and IRS.
The vast majority of mentally ill people are not dangerous, not even to themselves. Depriving them of their right to keep and bear arms is a horrible idea.
Legislators in general. I spent the weekend drafting a letter to kill a bill filed in the state senate. I only found 9 points of failure in it (this is a record); there was a 10th but it was taking too long to locate a report backing the 10th point. The authors appear to be good conservative Republicans and I am sure the bill was well meant -- but they were in way over their heads in issues about which they know nothing.
Interesting that Kim Jong-Il’s name appears to be written in Chinese and not Korean.
One executive order, or a memo to the ATF.
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