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Military Rolls Out Plan to Repeal Gay Ban
AP/CNS News ^ | 1/28/11 | Lolita C. Baldor, Pauline Jelinek

Posted on 01/28/2011 12:08:45 PM PST by markomalley

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To: Dick Vomer

I can just see our gay soldiers rushing forward to surrender to the Pashtuns: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/MA11Df03.html


21 posted on 01/28/2011 12:48:47 PM PST by sailor4321
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22 posted on 01/28/2011 12:51:23 PM PST by PGR88
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To: markomalley

HOW perverted. A nation that my ancestors would not recognize. A rude collection of post modern paganists.

So where do we go from here...? Is this the last gap of the freek show from the 60s or has the nation become so invested in materialism and self satisfying ego trips that we are witnessing the end of an era...another experiment that has ended up badly?


23 posted on 01/28/2011 12:54:50 PM PST by eleni121 (MY HERO GREGORY THE V - a living saint hanged and dragged by the ungodly muslims and their allies)
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To: Dick Vomer

Sodomy is still a violation of the UCMJ. Gays can be open about their sexual orientation, but they must remain celibate.


24 posted on 01/28/2011 1:02:24 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: markomalley

“Pentagon leaders preparing for a new culture of gays serving openly in the military are serving notice that discrimination will not be tolerated.”

Marxist change agents, whom have infiltrated America’s military command structure, and are now implimenting their plan to destroy the armed forces of the United States, have declared that resistance is futile... You will be assimilated into our atheist collective.

Response: Like Hell... We will resist, we will fight, we will have the inevitable victory over you godless sons of bitches... so help us God!


25 posted on 01/28/2011 1:02:33 PM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: markomalley

No good will come of this.


26 posted on 01/28/2011 1:03:46 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: markomalley

Most people concerned about this issue forget one thing...

When it comes to the skilled gift of strategy, who has more of it?... the Obama administration? or our military?

One only need to observe the reaction of the 3 generals at the SOTU address when Obama brought this up to know that this ain’t goin down without a fight... and sometimes a hasty retreat effectively disguises a devastating ambush.

If I were a gay in the military right now, I would think twice about “coming out of the closet”.


29 posted on 01/28/2011 1:09:01 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: manc
Worth repeating:Message for those homosexuals trolls. I and my family, especially my young children will never ever think of you as in a normal marriage, normal families or anything normal.

Footnote: When an open Civil War starts, and I predict it will, the New Confederate Army will have no queers in the ranks...

30 posted on 01/28/2011 1:09:41 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: manc
The only problem is that several states including Georgia have state constitutional laws that prevent the recognition of “gay marriage”. ow is that going to be dealt with? The 10 amendment leaves marriage to the jurisdiction of the states. this could be a heck of a constitutional fight!
31 posted on 01/28/2011 1:09:45 PM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: frogjerk
Why the F? It does not add anything to your point. I am sick of F this and F'n that. Amen

F'ing A!

32 posted on 01/28/2011 1:11:46 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: markomalley

So are new recruits in Basic going to be allowed to shower alone from now on...

or must they shower in one big room all together with a dozen other people with the same gender persific parts...

For instance during Nam I was a new recruit and had to shower with several other humans who had female parts..

What their “sexual orientation” may have been I was fairly sure...

I would have preferred to shower in private so I was embarassed but not in any danger...

However now how would I fare ???

Will enlisted personal be allowed to request a solitary private shower with a lock on the door ???

Or will that be considered a crime ???


33 posted on 01/28/2011 1:12:29 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: markomalley
Pentagon leaders preparing for a new culture of gays serving openly in the military are serving notice that discrimination will not be tolerated.

What would the Spartans do?

34 posted on 01/28/2011 1:14:53 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: markomalley

I’m sure the corrupt biased media will be all over this news and be reporting it t o please the public.

oh wait no they won’t as they know most do not want a bunch of perverts in the military.


35 posted on 01/28/2011 1:16:37 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: markomalley

Oh maybe I needed to explain that the women were in barracks that had been built during originally for men...

With that one big shower room several shower heads around the walls and in the ceiling thingy...


36 posted on 01/28/2011 1:19:41 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: ScottinVA

UGH! My son just started USMC Basic Training @ Parris Island this past Monday!


37 posted on 01/28/2011 1:26:21 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: ScottinVA

UGH! My son just started USMC Basic Training @ Parris Island this past Monday!


38 posted on 01/28/2011 1:26:30 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Dick Vomer
"so I guess they’ll change the UCMJ..

It's complicated, but because of a series of court cases - both Supreme Court and CAAF cases - they won't have to. Essentially, Art. 125 was in large part ruled unconstitutional with these cases. It's not quite a dead letter, but it's close.

So long as the homos (and heterosexuals, for that matter) aren't banging subordinates, or engage in coerced or forced sodomy, then they can't be charged with violating Art. 125.

39 posted on 01/28/2011 1:30:09 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Bobby_Taxpayer
"I believe, but could be mistaken, that the UCMJ must be changed by legislation. Not sure whether the DADT repeal addressed that"

Yes, the UCMJ is actually part of the US Code, (USC 10). And yes, to amend the UCMJ, legislation must be passed by Congress and then signed by the president (or passed by overriding a presidential veto). DADT repeal did not amend or reverse Art. 125.

However, as I explained just above, the UCMJ - like any other law - can be modified, or struck entirely by the judiciary exercising judicial review. To some degree, this has already been done to Art. 125.

Even before DADT's repeal, homosexuals who were "caught" violating Art. 125 could only be prosecuted under certain conditions defined in a case called US v. Marcum, which was heard and decided by CAAF. Marcum sprung from the Supreme Court case, Lawrence v. Texas.

40 posted on 01/28/2011 1:36:32 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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