Posted on 02/03/2011 6:28:53 AM PST by detective
Chopping wood is good if one has trees to chop and a fireplace/stove capable of burning them. As of right now my daughter and her five children are reduced to the huddling together.
For when you get power back.
No, I missed all of that. Our local news only talked about street lights, etc. and how someone screwed up and shut down a few of the hospitals. I guess it appears to have been more significant along the I-35 corridor. My apologies to all those whose livelihoods were affected. My point was for those sitting at home in the dark and complaining about a little discomfort.
Then maybe you can explain to us when Texas has had SUPPLY related blackouts in the past. Not ice storms breaking equipment,,, but this bullcrap now. Defend the central planning school of government all you want, because they managed to create ‘california paradise’ in Texas,,,, amazing.
Too bad we didn’t build about ten more plants like the Comanche peak nuclear plant,,, I built that one, and it’s doing fine. And the local community loves the infrastructure they gained from the property taxes.
From what I have read, it was not a supply issue but a weather-related issue as some of the plants had to shut down to thaw frozen pipes, etc. We use more electricity in the summer than during this cold snap.
For a good scare read “One Second After” by William Forstchen. He is the guy who co-writes books with Newt
Gingrich.
It will give you a real look into what we will face when the power goes off for a long time.
Excellent question.
I'm sure the MSM will be asking that also. </sarc>
***and import electricity from Mexico because of reliance on wind power. ***
Using Mexican coal plants to produce power the Texans won’t produce!
snark/off
If you really can't do without heat for 15 minutes, perhaps you should check into backup power or a stove of some sort. Nobody should be so dependent on the system that they can't make it for 15 darn minutes at a time.
***Those plants do have to come down at some point during the year for maintenance.***
The winter is not the correct time for a plant overhaul.
Our power plants shut down for major overhauls in the spring, so as to be ready for sumer heat, and a minor overhaul in the fall to prepare for winter usage.
The impacted utilites were to employ blackouts of 10-45 minutes duration. That call was to be made locally. There were some pressure drops in natural gas lines causing some problems and a couple of large coal units tripped off line according to some articles I’ve read.
ERCOT forecast peak demand would top 55,000 megawatts on Wednesday and 57,000 MW on Thursday before dropping to about 47,000 MW on Friday. The grid’s 2010 summer peak was around 65,715 megawatts.
Furthermore it's cruel to be sitting in a warm place (didn't you mention you work for a power company to another poster?) telling people to suck it up because it's not that cold. I can tell you from working with the homeless shelter in Rapid City, SoDak that people die from exposure more often when the temps are in the 30's and 40's because it's 'just not that cold'.
I grew up in Oregon and lived in a house where it was not unusual to wake up with frost on the bedcovers, it was no fun when I was 8. In modern America, short of an act of God, why should any of us have to accept the conditions the Ingles lived with?
I am calling BS on this excuse. We have 15 to 25 mile an hour gusts yesterday and today. Since when do windmills stop working when the wind is blowing. And before anyone says it, the windmill blades did not freaze in place.
I am calling BS on this excuse. We have 15 to 25 mile an hour gusts yesterday and today. Since when do windmills stop working when the wind is blowing. And before anyone says it, the windmill blades did not freeze in place.
Personally, I feel Jerry Jones had a lot of influence.
American Wind Energy Association - Background on Texas Blackouts
february 03, 2011
Wind power played a major role in keeping the blackouts from becoming more severe. Between 5 and 7 A.M. this morning (the peak of the electricity shortage) wind turbines was providing between 3,500 and 4,000 MW,
Many parts of the Texas experienced rolling blackouts, coinciding with unusually cold temperatures across many parts of the state. Millions of customers statewide appear to have been affected. Here are the facts as they are currently understood:
Wind energy played a major role in keeping the blackouts from becoming more severe. Between 5 and 7 A.M. this morning (the peak of the electricity shortage) wind farm power was providing between 3,500 and 4,000 MW, roughly the amount it had been forecast and scheduled to provide. That is about 7% of the state's total electricity demand at that time, or enough for about 3 million average homes.
Cold and icy conditions caused unexpected equipment failures at power plants, taking up to 50 fossil-fired power plants totaling 7,000 MW of capacity offline.
The cold temperatures caused electric heating demand to exceed the demand expected for this time of year. Many fossil and nuclear power plants take planned outages during non-summer months for maintenance, since electric demand is usually lower during these periods than in the summer.
The cold temperatures led to very high demand for natural gas for heating purposes, which may have strained the ability of the natural gas pipeline and distribution system to meet both these heating needs and the need to supply natural gas power plants (Texas obtains about half of its electricity by burning natural gas, and gas power plants account for about 70% of the state's generating capacity).
"While we are still learning about what happened today, this weather event clearly demonstrates the importance of developing and maintaining a diverse energy portfolio that is not overly dependent on any one energy source," said Michael Goggin, Manager of Transmission Policy, American Wind Energy Association. "This experience shows just how valuable a clean, affordable and homegrown energy source like wind can be in contributing to a reliable electric system."
www.awea.org/
>> show a little respect
Ha. You got all the respect you deserved, after a snide comment like that “oprah and pot pie” BS.
You “jackwagons” in the energy business cost me HOURS of lost time yesterday. UNNECESSARILY.
You want me to back off, then YOU apologize for your incredibly thoughtless and ignorant comment. Otherwise you get what you get from me, now and going forward.
I live in San Antonio. If there is anything I can do, please let me know.
The question is not whether people are man enough to endure lack of electricity, frozen pipes, etc. The question is why the liberals and environmentalists want to take a reliable electric system and screw it up.
Wind energy is far more expensive than the energy it replaces and it is totally unreliable.
Texas should not have to endure the supply related rolling blackouts that are common in third world countries.
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