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British PM calls multiculturalism a failure
Yahoo ^ | 2/5/11 | AFP

Posted on 02/05/2011 5:40:29 PM PST by NormsRevenge

MUNICH, Germany (AFP) – British Prime Minister David Cameron condemned his country's long-standing policy of multiculturalism as a failure Saturday, saying it was partly to blame for fostering Islamist extremism.

In a speech to the Munich Security Conference, Cameron said many young British Muslims were drawn to violent ideology because they found no strong collective identity in Britain.

Signalling a marked change in policy towards ethnic and religious minorities, he urged a "more active, muscular liberalism" where equal rights, the rule of law, freedom of speech and democracy were actively promoted.

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Many criticised his timing, on the day that 2,000 members of the far-right English Defence League (EDL) held a rally in the ethnically mixed city of Luton to protest against the spread of Islam in Britain.

Cameron did not mention the EDL but a lawmaker for the opposition Labour party, Sadiq Khan, accused him of "writing propaganda for the EDL".

The prime minister's speech was the first of his premiership on Islamist extremism, a major concern for British governments since four home-grown suicide bombers attacked London in 2005, killing 52 people.

It echoed controversial comments made by Merkel last year, when she also called multiculturalism a failure, ..

Cameron, who took power in May 2010, argued that "under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we have encouraged different cultures to live separate lives, apart from each other and the mainstream".

"All this leaves some young Muslims feeling rootless. And the search for something to belong to and believe in can lead them to this extremist ideology," he said.

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"A passively tolerant society says to its citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone. It stands neutral between different values," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; british; cameron; crushislam; failure; immigration; islam; massmigration; multiculturalism; newworldorder; wot

1 posted on 02/05/2011 5:40:30 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Not to worry.

Moslems have a monoculture all ready to roll!

2 posted on 02/05/2011 5:41:39 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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German Chancellor Angela Merkel (C) listens to British Prime Minister David Cameron (L) during the 47th Munich Security Conference in the southern German city of Munich. Cameron condemned his country's long-standing policy of multiculturalism as a failure Saturday, saying it was partly to blame for fostering Islamist extremism. (AFP/POOL/Guido Bergmann)


3 posted on 02/05/2011 5:42:43 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sooo . . . . My momma taught me to clean up any messes I made. How do the Brits plan to do this now?

I know how I’d do it, but it wouldn’t win me any liberal or Islamic friends.


4 posted on 02/05/2011 5:45:46 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Cameron rocks. I watched his presentation and he has some mega cajones!


5 posted on 02/05/2011 5:48:54 PM PST by nagdt ("None of my EX's live in Texas")
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To: NormsRevenge

“British Prime Minister David Cameron condemned his country’s long-standing policy of multiculturalism as a failure”

Well, obviously the guy is a very slow learner, but let’s hope the Brits are starting to awaken in time to save their country.


7 posted on 02/05/2011 5:52:32 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Signalling a marked change in policy towards ethnic and religious minorities, he urged a “more active, muscular liberalism” where equal rights, the rule of law, freedom of speech and democracy were actively promoted.”

The “marked change” they need is mass deportations and a halt to all third-world immigration.


8 posted on 02/05/2011 5:54:11 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: NormsRevenge
British Prime Minister David Cameron condemned his country's long-standing policy of multiculturalism as a failure Saturday, saying it was partly to blame for fostering Islamist extremism.

Or, in the words of those who have encouraged the multicultural program, "Mission accomplished."

Multiculturalism erodes the national identity of the native culture, leaving it vulnerable to those who are unapologetically certain of their own identity.

9 posted on 02/05/2011 5:54:41 PM PST by Dunstan McShane
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To: Dunstan McShane
Multiculturalism erodes the national identity of the native culture leaving it vulnerable to those who are unapologetically certain of their own identity.

Correct. Just as the Marxist/Leftist/One-world government mob wants it. This is but one of the tools they use to weaken strong countries. Time to put a stop to it. Kudos to PM Cameron.

10 posted on 02/05/2011 6:04:10 PM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The British and the Germans are starting to draw the line on their Muslim “immigrants.” That they are throwing the politically correct “multiculturalism” under the bus — and siding with Mubarak — at least until he can transition out in Egypt UNLIKE Obama who wants him out NOW — shows they no longer trust the Obama regime, and they no longer believe he will be there for them should things get bad. Nor can we expect them to be there for us, so long as Obama remains in the White House, and Progressives/Democrats in charge of the Government.


11 posted on 02/05/2011 6:06:52 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: Dunstan McShane
Multiculturalism erodes the national identity of the native culture,...

That's an understatement. As a doctrine it obliterates our national culture. It only appears as erosion to the extent that it is resisted, but as resisters are increasingly vilified and displaced by indoctrinated youth, the process accelerates. It's erosion the way a sand castle is eroded by the high tide.

12 posted on 02/05/2011 6:15:34 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: NormsRevenge
"under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we have encouraged different cultures to live separate lives, apart from each other and the mainstream".

"All this leaves some young Muslims feeling rootless. And the search for something to belong to and believe in can lead them to this extremist ideology,"

Their own policy backfired and now is coming back to cause harm to their country.

If immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!

13 posted on 02/05/2011 6:25:09 PM PST by RedMDer (restoration of our honor, dignity, and freedoms will save America. - Sarah Palin)
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To: NormsRevenge; algernonpj; Candor7; AuntB; blackie; LucyT
I was doing a web search minutes ago and read a copyrighted article about Texas being concerned about a surge in illegals from India (meaning LOTS of them). All the wide open borders need now are welcome signs while we continue to get multiculturalism from the entire world.
14 posted on 02/05/2011 6:25:38 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The reason that immigrants do not adopt English culture is because there is nothing to take root in.

The arid secularism of Britain is a vast, empty wasteland. Only a tiny percent of British go to church every week, and most of them are very old. The young worship the bottle and vacations in Spain.

No wonder the immigrants in the United Kingdom find more sustenance in sharia law and radical terrorism.


15 posted on 02/05/2011 6:39:04 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: patriot preacher

An editorial on Aljazeera (which is far more objective than the msm) last night pointed out that 0 is quickly loosing friends as evidenced by the EU deciding to go their own way on the Egypt crisis.


16 posted on 02/05/2011 6:54:21 PM PST by balls (Government workers have plundered our wealth. Demand reparations!)
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To: nagdt
Cameron rocks. I watched his presentation and he has some mega cajones!

Politicians are notorious for their actions falling far short of their impressive sounding rhetoric. I'll believe he 'rocks' or not when I see some actual policies and results...

17 posted on 02/05/2011 6:57:37 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: patriot preacher

shows me they know Obama has joined with the muslim brotherhood and that he is a fraud


18 posted on 02/05/2011 7:05:50 PM PST by dalebert
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To: NormsRevenge

This is great news. The Brits are pretty liberal compared to the U.S. so this is a sign of hope. I hope they can get the UK back in time, it’s pretty rough in western europe, I know first hand. That’s what PC thinking got them, a looming disaster.


19 posted on 02/05/2011 7:08:54 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: NormsRevenge

Failure? Depends on the culture.


20 posted on 02/05/2011 7:12:57 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: balls

An editorial on Aljazeera (which is far more objective than the msm) last night pointed out that 0 is quickly loosing friends as evidenced by the EU deciding to go their own way on the Egypt crisis.


Doesn’t surprise me at all. It’s what I’d been sensing for several days now. What Cameron and Merkel said today just confirmed it. What Obama has done was to purposely destabalize Egypt for his own ends. It’s beyond dangerous — and the European nations KNOW what kind of peril it puts them in. It’s a race now to see if the nation can survive until he’s out of office in 2012.


21 posted on 02/05/2011 7:17:30 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: dalebert

That’s what I said — more or less :-)


22 posted on 02/05/2011 7:18:23 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: NormsRevenge

The UK is making strides to privatize healthcare and now dropping multiculturalism...will the media here even cover it? The Dem’s are in a race to make us Europe before Europe goes to pot or turns around.

Anyway, the left will probably set about painting Cameron like Geert Wilders.


23 posted on 02/05/2011 10:15:49 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; NormsRevenge; algernonpj; Candor7; AuntB; blackie; LucyT; USF; Beckwith
First off, I would like to commend Prime Minister David Cameron, he is finally (albeit a bit too late) beginning to see the light.

Why I say it is too late is mainly because Cameron himself is still confused, as evidenced by the last two paragraphs of his speech.

Cameron still believes that these uprooted heathens from various parts of the globe can still share a common British identity, they can't.

They can however share no identity, but that wouldn't be very British.

Cameron still thinks that Democracy and Islam can coexist, they can't.

All of Western civilization will eventually have to choose, and it will either be "The will of the nation" or "The will of Allah"

24 posted on 02/06/2011 2:59:59 AM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: NormsRevenge


British Prime Minister David Cameron condemned his country’s
long-standing policy of multiculturalism as a failure Saturday

I’ve seen Cameron a couple of times in “question” time with the UK
Parliament.

Shame we can’t vote for him to be President of The United States of The USA.
Cameron is clearly running intellectually at about 100 percent faster
than Obama (and many other potential 2012 Presidential candidates for
the office of US President).


25 posted on 02/06/2011 3:13:16 AM PST by VOA
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To: VOA

Demographics bump:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kKkY5EpVpY

Wake up America.


26 posted on 02/06/2011 5:02:08 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: expatguy
"Cameron still believes that these uprooted heathens from various parts of the globe can still share a common British identity, they can't."

Their paper crane moment is over... Now the Brits will have to learn the hard way, like those in other parts of the world who have learned playing nice with those infected with islam does not work and only emboldens them. The question is will they have the cojones to do what it takes?

Singapore's Lee Kwan Yew: 'we can integrate all religions and races except Islam'

Then:

Muslims rule major Swedish city

(UK) Bishop warns of no-go zones for non-Muslims

The 751 No-Go Zones of France

And now...

Protesters stage anti-Islam demonstration north of London

27 posted on 02/06/2011 5:15:43 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade)
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To: MamaDearest

Multiculturalism will always fail!

Be Ever Vigilant!!


28 posted on 02/06/2011 7:04:09 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: expatguy

Majority in U.S. and EU see Immigrants as a Problem
Sat Feb 5 09:14:43 2011 ·

“The Transatlantic Trends survey is sponsored by several institutions in the United States and Europe. Most Europeans and Americans believe that immigration is a problem rather than an advantage for their respective countries, according to a survey published Thursday by a group of foundations. The survey shows that citizens whose personal situation worsened due to the economic crisis in the past two years believe that immigrants are to blame for it. 65% of Britons believe that immigrants are a problem, followed by Spanish (53%) and Americans (52%), and then by French (42%), German and Dutch (39%).”[snip]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2669062/posts


29 posted on 02/06/2011 9:00:22 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Multi-culturalism is foothold for foreign governments to meddle in other’s politics. Witness the mexican meddling in our affairs.


30 posted on 02/06/2011 9:04:04 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: junta

In our country this crap is manifested by idiots like the “sise latina” Sotamayer and her recent speech in front of some law students about the need for racial policies from the government to promote discrimination.


31 posted on 02/06/2011 9:09:31 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: junta

In our country this crap is manifested by idiots like the “wise latina” Sotamayer and her recent speech in front of some law students about the need for racial policies from the government to promote discrimination.


32 posted on 02/06/2011 9:09:48 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: NormsRevenge; La Lydia; Liz; Clintonfatigued; sickoflibs; bcsco; blackie; All

Here is a big part of the problem. USCIS.

USCIS Ombudsman Doesn’t Understand the Point of Numerical Limits
By David North, February 2, 2011

Congress for close to 90 years now has voted to numerically limit some kinds of immigration. The point is that the U.S. does not want to be overcrowded the way Egypt is.

The open borders people and greedy employers have long resisted numerical limits, and have often figured clever ways to avoid them, or to define away the limits that they cannot change. Witness the games played with H-1B ceilings in recent years.

Unfortunately, an arm of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the Office of the Ombudsman, has missed the point, too.

It recently released a statement in which it openly regretted “unused family-based visas”:

During FY 2009 and FY 2010, usage of family-based visas has been exceptionally low, especially among spouses and children of green card holders . . . In FY 20009 approximately 10,000 family-based visas were unused . . .

The document continues:

Despite the fact that more family members are becoming eligible, demand for family-based visas remains weak. While efforts are underway to facilitate maximum utilization, a significant number of family-based visas may again go unused in FY 2010.

Instead of leaving things alone, the Ombudsman reported that the Office has “worked alongside USCIS and the Department of State to monitor family-based visa usage in FY 2010. To enable more family-based visa applicants to become eligible for final processing, the Visa Bulletin cut-off dates have been accelerating significantly.”

In short, the Ombudsman’s Office is busily trying to manipulate a very complex system to make sure that every conceivable family visa is issued to some potential immigrant, whether there is much demand for them or not. Unused family visas “fall down”, in the jargon of the immigration business, to people in the employment-based categories, so “unused” is something of a misnomer.

The byproduct of this all this activity is to change the mix of incoming immigrants in a manner that will surely lower the average per capita income of the arriving immigrant cohorts, because studies show that people on employment visas earn more money than people on family visas, a factor not discussed in the Ombudsman’s message.

While I have no problem with the government facilitating immigration along the lines set by Congress, it should not actively promote immigration, particularly of low-income people, which is exactly what this unit of USCIS is doing.

http://www.cis.org/north/uscis-ombudsman-numerical-limits


33 posted on 02/06/2011 9:22:29 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: MamaDearest
I was doing a web search minutes ago and read a copyrighted article about Texas being concerned about a surge in illegals from India (meaning LOTS of them). All the wide open borders need now are welcome signs while we continue to get multiculturalism from the entire world.

Many of us tend to forget that illegal aliens enter the United States in two distinct ways: approximately 60 percent cross a border illegally; and the remaining 40 percent overstay a legal visa.

It sound like we here in NJ are not unique in being overrun with visa overstays, former guest workers (many from India) who compete with American professionals by working through temp agencies that vouch for them. Often they pay no or little taxes, yet take full advantage of our safety nets while suppressing US salaries.

Image how much less you could work for if you paid no or partial taxes!
34 posted on 02/06/2011 12:16:44 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: expatguy; E. Pluribus Unum; NormsRevenge; algernonpj; Candor7; AuntB; blackie; LucyT; USF; ...
... Cameron still thinks that Democracy and Islam can coexist, they can't.

All of Western civilization will eventually have to choose, and it will either be "The will of the nation" or "The will of Allah"


Those of you who haven't seen this article by a Danish psychologist might find it interesting.

Nicolai Sennels concludes that "... I am completely convinced that Muslim integration will never happen to the necessary extent".
35 posted on 02/06/2011 12:23:18 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj
California is even worse.'Fer instance, Loma Linda University prefers to hire Third World doctors as they work a bit cheaper than Americans.

They are mostly from India, and all claim to donate the majority of their income to various foundations - hence avoid American income tax. But never stand in front of a Seventhday Adventist and their money!!!!!

36 posted on 02/06/2011 1:33:11 PM PST by investigateworld (Free Traders don't need guns 'cause they know The Peoples Republic of China are their friends)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hurrah PM Cameron! You have the courage and strength to state the truth about a system which _insists_ on vocal and then violent jihad to overcome every nation on earth.

Note, the true intent of a religion is not what the man in the street, the average believer or even a majority of believers espouse. The doctrine of it is revealed by its high level teachers, learned ones who study it and know its history and the fullness of its message. They say clearly jihad is required and it means killing, if not listened to; lying to kifar is required behavior. Duh to so many people.


37 posted on 02/06/2011 2:44:52 PM PST by veracious
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To: NormsRevenge

38 posted on 02/06/2011 5:01:53 PM PST by sushiman
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To: NormsRevenge; SunkenCiv

Although a mild rebuke the excesses of Multiculturalism, Cameron speech was pure elite liberalism.
It didn’t say that the native Brits have a right to their land culture and history. Rather it bemoaned the failure of Muslims to fit in with liberalism. Cameron has no problem with increasing the number of Muslims in Europe so long as they pretend to be liberal. And in his speech, he basically said that since we European elites can suppress nationalist groups and fascists, we should have the right to suppress the most extreme Islamists.


39 posted on 02/06/2011 5:35:18 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hats off to you, Mr. Cameron!

Americans, wake up! I say, if you put a hyphen in your national identity, GET OUT! Go to the country and culture that comes first in your identity and your allegiance.


40 posted on 02/06/2011 5:40:42 PM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: algernonpj
Image how much less you could work for if you paid no or partial taxes!

Precisely. Shady employers pay illegals "under the table" and avoid dealing with myriad tax forms and payroll deductions, as well as pricey accountants. The government gets nada of this and illegals have no deductions from their pay, giving them the equivalent of higher pay.

ICE refuses to name companies fined for hiring illegals

Snip: Despite talking tough about cracking down on employers who break federal immigration laws, ICE is withholding the names and other identifying information about the companies it penalizes, essentially protecting them from public scrutiny.

How many Fortune 500 companies pad their profits by hiring illegal aliens

41 posted on 02/06/2011 6:06:17 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: sushiman

Nice graphic!


42 posted on 02/06/2011 7:39:12 PM PST by mrreaganaut (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: mrreaganaut

The dickheads over at English Defence League just banned me from their site for posting something unflattering about Cameron ! England is screwed !


43 posted on 02/07/2011 3:48:19 AM PST by sushiman
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To: sushiman

So in other words, we need to “better” integrate these Muslims and dress them up in British flags and stack British TV shows to the hilt with them and then all will be peaches and cream. Yeah right! Deport them - all of them. They have 50+ countries they can do their own “thing” in. Besides that, why the heck does England need to import the developing world in the first place? Ridiculous.


44 posted on 02/07/2011 6:56:06 AM PST by MrInvisible
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To: MrInvisible

Ok, I’ll answer my own question. Because in today’s world, a country full of white, Euro type people is considered evil, a crime against humanity. It’s somehow identified with Nazis but then Nazis were the biggest killers of white, Euro people, Germans, Americans, Brits, Poles, English, Russians, etc.


45 posted on 02/07/2011 6:59:48 AM PST by MrInvisible
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To: MamaDearest

Thanks for the links ... very depressing in light of the current employment situation.


46 posted on 02/07/2011 7:37:56 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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