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Kansas law change may allow even blind to carry concealed
ljworld.com ^ | 12 February, 2011 | Chad Lawhorn

Posted on 02/14/2011 4:26:08 AM PST by marktwain

In the state of Kansas, to carry a concealed firearm you need a gun — preferably something that fits nice under your jacket, in your pocket or perhaps in your purse.

You also need a license, the state’s seal of approval that you can hide a firearm on your person.

What’s less clear is whether you need eyesight. It certainly is suggested, unquestionably helpful. But following a change in state law, it is no longer clear whether it is required.

Kansas legislators during the last session approved a number of changes to the state’s concealed carry law. One of them was that people who are renewing their license no longer have to take any sort of test to prove they’re still proficient with a firearm.

The changes also removed language from the law that gave the attorney general the right to deny applicants a license if they “suffer from a physical infirmity which prevents the safe handling of a weapon.”

A spokesman for Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt — whose office oversees the concealed carry program — conceded this week that the office is uncertain whether it has the authority to deny a concealed carry license renewal for any physical reason, even if the applicant is blind.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: banglist; blind; ccw; ks
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To: manc
Now imagine on campus when a shot goes off and hundreds of blind people get their guns and start blazing thinking that it is their life in danger even if it is not because they can’t see what is happening.

They're blind, not stupid.

41 posted on 02/14/2011 6:06:24 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: marktwain

coincidentally, I’m listening to my local police scanner this AM. A call goes out to check a home burglar alarm. The dispatcher says, “homeowner is visually impaired, armed, and can’t tell the difference between an officer and a civilian.” How’d you like to be the one answering that call?


42 posted on 02/14/2011 6:11:39 AM PST by balch3
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To: stuartcr
No doubt a martial arts studio could provide training suitable to close quarters combat ~ and that'd certainly equip the blind guy to handle his opponent such that he could reach out and shoot him without much risk to anybody else.

Marksmanship training can take many forms.

43 posted on 02/14/2011 6:18:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: PapaBear3625
A person can be “legally blind”, with vision bad enough that they can’t read documents or drive, yet still be more than capable of shooting an assailant. Keep in mind that most violent assaults occur at arms-reach distance.

BTTT

44 posted on 02/14/2011 6:22:46 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: manc
EEK give a blind person a gun.???

I'm really not being ugly but the frist thing that came to mind was the movie “Men In Tights” when Robin and his men were fighting in the palace and one of his men, who was blind, was fervently wielding his sword and fighting a wooden post which he was chipping away to nothing. (I promise, it was really funny, you just had to see it).

45 posted on 02/14/2011 6:23:22 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: marktwain
A gun may not be a good idea for the blind for concealed carry (home is different), as you have a responsibility not to shoot the wrong person.

However, concealed carry does not just apply to firearms, at least in the state laws that I have seen. It applies to any weapon, which is otherwise legal, and which is illegal to conceal.

A large knife or taser might fit into that category and be very helpful.

If a blind person wants to have a gun for home defense, I'm fine with that, but I just hope the deaf meter reader is careful.

46 posted on 02/14/2011 6:23:32 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: marktwain
I think that I'd file this one under "Just because you can, does not mean that you should." Legality doesn't necessarily make this a good idea.

That being said, there are varying definitions of "legally blind", I believe.

47 posted on 02/14/2011 6:24:02 AM PST by wbill
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To: marktwain


48 posted on 02/14/2011 6:24:44 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: susannah59
just evil little inanimate objects just sitting around awaiting their opportunities

I like to leave my guns in the care of my SUV. I get a two-fer that way. Sometimes I leave a pack of cigarettes in there too, to get a three-fer. :-)

49 posted on 02/14/2011 6:27:22 AM PST by wbill
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To: balch3
The dispatcher says, “homeowner is visually impaired, armed, and can’t tell the difference between an officer and a civilian.” How’d you like to be the one answering that call?

I would make a point to drive up with my cop-car lights flashing, toot my cop-car siren from the driveway, and announce over my cop-car loudspeaker that this is the police, and we're checking the alarm. Yes, we'll wake up the neighbors, but it will ensure that nobody around has any doubt that the person coming up to the door is a cop.

50 posted on 02/14/2011 6:31:57 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: manc
LOL, They do. They really have braille at the ATM drive thru.

Yup. My understanding was to keep manufacturing costs down, as in th early days, the ATMs were mostly walk-up. Why re-engineer something when you can simply re-use it?

51 posted on 02/14/2011 6:36:14 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmit in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Larry Lucido

Cute!! I am going to bet he has a squirrel in his sights.


52 posted on 02/14/2011 7:16:25 AM PST by momtothree
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To: marktwain

Anyone denied a CCW based upon a handicap has a teriffic lawsuit. The Americans With Disabilities Act would come into play and I wouldn’t want to be the one telling a handicapped person they can’t exercise the same rights as normals.


53 posted on 02/14/2011 7:20:07 AM PST by Dayman
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To: Cailleach; PapaBear3625
all i keep thinkin is that many zombies prefer to hunt at night, where the ability to see would be fairly equivelent to being blind anyways...

old richard pryor movies, 'see no evil, hear no evil' where the blind bad guy would get a sound lock and shut off the lights when he wanted to shoot somebody in his office...

in the dark, blind is an *advantage*...

54 posted on 02/14/2011 12:56:21 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: marktwain
Why should a person be denied the ability to defend themselves?

In particular, the blind fella in Columbus, Ohio who had animal rights wackos try to "free" his seeing-eye dog from its "cruel captivity." When the dog wouldn't run away on its own, sticking with the human it loved, they sprayed it with oven cleaner.

I do wish that fella had brought a handgun al;ong to that little party....

55 posted on 02/14/2011 1:39:15 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: manc
LOL, They do. They really have braille at the ATM drive thru.

How exactly is the blind person supposed to be driving to get there? LOL

Carefully!

56 posted on 02/14/2011 1:40:29 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: archy

just spat my cup of tea over my keyboard, LOL


57 posted on 02/14/2011 1:42:14 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: Larry Lucido
Sniperkitty, star of "Enemy at the Doggy Door "


58 posted on 02/14/2011 1:59:28 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: I-ambush

Check post 37!


59 posted on 02/14/2011 2:04:35 PM PST by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: Gilbo_3

Let’s all keep in mind that “Blind CCW” was just a straw-man argument regarding the cops no longer being able to deny a CCW application because they decided the applicant “suffers from a physical infirmity which prevents the safe handling of a weapon”, a vague criterion which could be arbitrarily abused.


60 posted on 02/14/2011 2:42:37 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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