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Obama admin. asks judge to clarify health ruling (they don't know what 'unconstitutional' means)
Boston.com ^ | 2/17/11 | Melissa Nelson

Posted on 02/17/2011 4:40:28 PM PST by Libloather

Obama admin. asks judge to clarify health ruling
By Melissa Nelson
Associated Press / February 17, 2011

PENSACOLA, Fla.—The Justice Department asked a federal judge in Florida on Thursday to tell states that they must continue to enact the Obama administration's health care overhaul despite the judge's ruling that the law is unconstitutional.

In a motion to clarify, administration attorneys asked U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson to make clear that states cannot ignore the new health care laws while his ruling is being appealed.

At stake, according to the government's motion, are provisions of the new law that will create chaos if ignored by the states.

Those provisions include 2011 changes in Medicare payment rates. Delaying those changes "could cause major delays and errors in the payment of the roughly 100 million Medicare claims processed each month," the motion states.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obama; unconstitutional; vinson
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Delaying garbage?
1 posted on 02/17/2011 4:40:31 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Why ask for a ruling if they’ll ignore it anyway?


2 posted on 02/17/2011 4:43:27 PM PST by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Libloather

.......the judge should subpoena Dumbo, Biden, and Holder and explain it to them on national TV......


3 posted on 02/17/2011 4:44:15 PM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Libloather

Yeah, a lame request for clarification every two weeks until all the new healthcare related positions are filled and the automatic funding is in place.


4 posted on 02/17/2011 4:44:18 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Libloather

Clarify?
Clarify what?
Truly this administration is a “Naked Singularity of stupidity”.


5 posted on 02/17/2011 4:44:28 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Principled

Here are some other words the Obama administration does not know the meaning of besides Constitution:

1. Freedom

2. Liberty

3. Judeo-Christian

4. God

5. Christianity

6. Law

7. Business

8. Economics

9. Justice

10. No


6 posted on 02/17/2011 4:46:58 PM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: Libloather

Would that be the same (Social) “Justice” Department that selectively enforces certain Acts and Laws?


7 posted on 02/17/2011 4:48:09 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Principled; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33
Why ask for a ruling if they’ll ignore it anyway?

Flee Levin just mentioned that the rookie Hussein didn't ask for a stay because that would acknowledge the original ruling as valid. This move is only for delay.

8 posted on 02/17/2011 4:50:58 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather

Obama using the Dean Smith 4 corner offense to run out the clock..

What the judge issued was a Declaratory Judgment.

The petitioners should almost automatically be given an injunction by Judge Vinson,if they apply, based upon the WHs words & actions that ignore the DJ.


9 posted on 02/17/2011 4:52:18 PM PST by stylin19a ("Marine Sniper - You can run, but you'll just die tired!")
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To: Libloather

I believe if you read Judge Vinson’s ruling it specifically states that the ruling itself is injunctive meaning all motion on Healthcare should stop ASAP. Its pretty clear.


10 posted on 02/17/2011 4:52:37 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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... states cannot ignore the new health care laws while his ruling is being appealed.

That's all well and good... except that it has not been appealed. So, the regime wants states to keep implementing the POS while they ignore Vinson's ruling.

11 posted on 02/17/2011 4:56:32 PM PST by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Libloather

The Bammy Justice Department inaction.


12 posted on 02/17/2011 4:57:16 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Only two things come from Texas and I see you're wearing an "I Heart Austin" t-shirt)
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To: Libloather

“Well, yes, your honor, but what about the horse I rode in on?”


13 posted on 02/17/2011 4:57:56 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Libloather

I think Flee is a horse’s ass, but he’s correct on this one. This has “delay”written all over it, and Judge Vinson might not like it much.


14 posted on 02/17/2011 4:57:56 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Win The Future = Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: Libloather
Until a higher court resurrects it,Obamacare has been ruled unconstitutional and thus it does not exist.
To administer or enforce a law that does not exist constitutes the serious felonies of state sanctioned persecution,harassment and violation of civil rights.

Any action,at this time,to implement Obamacare is criminal and if the DOJ wasn't criminal justice would be served.

15 posted on 02/17/2011 4:58:51 PM PST by Happy Rain ("Implementing Obamacare now is like arresting motorists for driving sober--there ain't no such law.")
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To: Libloather
In a motion to clarify, administration attorneys asked U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson to make clear that states cannot ignore the new health care laws while his ruling is being appealed.

This is the typical Liberal BS of not accepting any answer that they don't like.

It is time for Judge Vinson to wield his gavel in the fashion of Thor's Hammer and tell the administration that his declaratory judgment makes it illegal for the Several States to try implementing any portion of the Health Care Act!

Judge Vinson declared the Health Care Act unconstitutional in total. That means it was never law. Anything done in compliance with the Act is being done under the "color of law" and is illegal. So ALL activity to implement this illegal Act was to Constitutionally immediately cease upon issuance of the Judge's declaratory judgment. Any person or organization doing otherwise is doing so in defiance of the Constitution. And that is called treason!

Only if and when a higher court reverses Judge Vinson's declaratory judgment can anyone legally resume implementing any of the Health Care Act's provisions. That's how it works in a law-abiding country.

It's called "rule of law"...something Democrats refuse to believe in!

16 posted on 02/17/2011 5:00:34 PM PST by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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Obama argues the states must continue to spend money on it because it could later be found constitutional.

Maybe we should argue that nothing Obama signs should obligate the states to spend money because it could later be found to be unconstitutional.

Seems the odds are in favor of the second proposition.

17 posted on 02/17/2011 5:03:50 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Libloather

Obama Administration to Judge, “Give us some more rulings and we’ll decide which one we will abide by”.


18 posted on 02/17/2011 5:11:37 PM PST by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: headstamp 2

Obama Administration to Judge, “Can we try door #3 instead?”


19 posted on 02/17/2011 5:15:24 PM PST by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: Libloather
After having this Regime basically tell the Judge to shove his Ruling up his ass; they ain't changing, they now want "clarification"?

If the Judge has ANY principles at all (and I really think he may have already been compromised by some operatives putting pressure on him), he would tell them "This is an effective Notice that you are in violation of a Federal Court Order, and ALL un-Constitutional findings require that NO FURTHER ENFORCEMENT OR FUNDING OR PROVISIONS OF THIS LAW ARE LEGAL, FROM THIS DAY FORWARD. You may Appeal, but the Ruling Stands".

20 posted on 02/17/2011 5:20:12 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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