Posted on 02/21/2011 2:07:56 PM PST by AustralianConservative
The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally -- not a 20 percent traitor."
The popular quote above is attributed to Ronald Reagan, along with the variant, "That person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally; not a 20 percent traitor."
It would be nice if some writers verified the above and the context it was made in, but for argument's sake let's accept it as fact and consider critical-thinking questions. After all, we're thinkers.
Agreeable:
For starters, the world's full of agreeable traitors, so are some opportunists using one quote to jump on conservative bandwagons, and pretending to agree with conversations 80 percent of the time?
As well, if someone agrees with you 99% of the time but embraces, say, man-girl marriages, is he an ally? So perhaps Reagan was (a) misquoted or (b) having a bad day.
Nevertheless, 80/20 hysterics fail to realize that the 20% area of disagreement can undermine the other areas of "agreement" as the abortion issue demonstrates. For example, what's the point of a national security "conservative" against life?
(Excerpt) Read more at patriotpost.us ...
i am a Constitutional Libertarian (not the drug crazed loonies today). small govt, personal responsibility, strong defense, America first (my addition). President Reagan is my idea of what a US President should be. strong. inspiring. determined. and had a good vision for the people, the country and the world.
i am 100% against anything and everything the left turns out.
they are my enemy. i say this without hesitation or remorse. just like a jewish guy would identify a nazi or a black guy would identify a kkk member... that’s how i see progressives. in every walk of life they are everything that is bad with the country. they push for everything i despise and abhor in the world.
my enemy.
pure and simple.
Glad to see a fellow traveler. Reaching across the aisle, electing moderate republicans, supporting blue dog democrats......where has that gotten us?
Two steps forward, one step back, I think I heard that forty or fifty years ago. Of course forward Used here is really backward.
I am more pessimistic about the survival of the republic now than I ever have been. I predict that WI, will wimp out on their golden opportunity.
The house surely did on budget cuts.
What is the problem with “man-girl marriages”?
Good to see. I have no time for drug-first libertarians. In my personal experience too, these seasonal libertarians love censoring anti-drug conservatives in the name of “freedom” of course.
Right – Islam is a religion of peace.
WHat you said.
The Libertarian Party is the reason I refer to myself as a small-l libertarian.
Incidentally, Michelle Malkin is mentioned in the article itself. This is significant because Dave Weigel of the Libertarian "Reason Magazine" claimed Michelle Malkin caused the suicide of some lesbian, who was a seditious type, because Michelle Malkin wrote about her.
These are some real sleazy guys.
Oh, so he was referring to man-underage girl marriages?
Haha – I’ve heard many critics slam Reason. They are a pretend libertarian website according to some critical thinking voices with a history of glamorizing drugs, bashing cops, and censoring their opponents (of course). Turns out more than a few voted for Obama too. Go figure.
Glad to see that there are people who think like me here.....kudos to you FRiend
I married a teenager.(49 years ago.)
I married a teenager.(49 years ago.)
One day the disciples heard people favorably speaking out about Jesus who were not a part of their circle. They asked the Lord if they should silence them. Jesus said,“Do not stop him...for whoever is not against us is for us.”MK 9:38-40
Jesus didn’t say let’s make them a part of OUR group and all work together. He said let them go on speaking on their own.
Conservatives should do the same. There must be CORE principles that are inviolate to be a part of OUR group. But we should acknowledge it and applaud them whenever anyone agrees with any of our beliefs.
If they also have beliefs that contradict our core principles they just can’t be a part of our group. Occasionally, liberals come to their senses and agree with us. But they could never be one with us. Same for any others.
Let them have their own meetings, cauci & conventions in which all of their participants also subscribe to their core beliefs. We can work with them on an issue by issue basis...or not.
My sentiments exactly...
I don’t like the sex perverts, the druggies, the baby killers or the gun and money grabbers...
No negotiation is possible with them...
Their writer, Dave Weigel, can fit comfortably into such rags as "The Nation" or the cyber rag, "The Daily Kos."
If everyone forgets how he practically smeared Michelle Malkin with murder -- I haven't.
I've seen many a libertarian who became 'Republican' by registration, but have seen many of them fighting hard against basic conservative principles, and those who hold those values dear.
I worked hard and successfully to keep many of them from climbing the ladder within the state GOP, and got many of the complaints outlined here, i.e., 'I'm a 90 percent ally, why oppose me?" - etc.
The answer to that is simple... because that 10 percent where libertarians don't support conservatism is more dangerous than is the 90 percent where they do support conservatism.
We can't have good legislators that are equally squishy - because they will not do the right thing when it counts the most. In short, I've seen national GOP leadership running amok because all too many aren't 100 percent Christian Conservative.
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