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Wisconsin Police Cave to Protesters
Fox News ^ | 2/28/11 | David A. Lieb and Dinesh Ramde

Posted on 02/28/2011 6:14:25 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

he occupation of the Wisconsin Capitol by protesters fighting efforts to strip public workers of union bargaining rights carried on Sunday after police decided not to forcibly remove demonstrators and end a nearly two-week-long sit-in.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: cave; police; union; weak; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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Wisconsin Capitol Police Chief Charles Tubbs...


Mr. Tubbs (on screen right, chatting with a protester) seems to be a real law and order kind of fellow. Or not.

1 posted on 02/28/2011 6:14:28 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Police Union at work?


2 posted on 02/28/2011 6:16:03 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: SoFloFreeper

3 posted on 02/28/2011 6:16:27 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Question. Are the state police unionized?
4 posted on 02/28/2011 6:16:41 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Do the Wisconsin Capitol Police have a union?


5 posted on 02/28/2011 6:17:15 AM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: SoFloFreeper

don’t they need to go back to work on Monday morning?


6 posted on 02/28/2011 6:18:23 AM PST by dalebert
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To: bgill
Do the Wisconsin Capitol Police have a union?

Does a bear, well, you know...

7 posted on 02/28/2011 6:19:42 AM PST by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Yes, but they have been exempted from this bill.


8 posted on 02/28/2011 6:20:42 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: SoFloFreeper
They probably did the right thing. These protesters wanted to create a scene where the media would be publishing photos of them being arrested. In fact look how much media coverage they got yesterday just in anticipation of closing of the capitol.
9 posted on 02/28/2011 6:21:03 AM PST by martinidon
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To: SoFloFreeper

No suprise there. The cops are also most likely union too.


10 posted on 02/28/2011 6:22:32 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Feb 2, 2009

MADISON (WKOW) — Dane County authorities alleged 19 year old Collin Tubbs of Middleton went on an arson rampage, right after calling his father, state capitol police chief Charles Tubbs.

Police and court documents state chief Tubbs received a phone call from his son around 4 a.m. Feb. 13 before the crimes.

A Middleton police report states the younger Tubbs told his father “someone had shot his (Collin Tubbs) vehicle.”

The report states Collins Tubbs also said he was “ ‘going to take care of it,’ “ and his father encouraged Tubbs to contact police.

But the police report states chief Tubbs did not contact Middleton police himself until an hour and a half later, after the arson fires had been set.

http://www.wkow.com/global/story.asp?s=9892700


11 posted on 02/28/2011 6:22:35 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: SoFloFreeper

Another Son Of Capitol Police Chief Facing Felony Charges
Tubbs Jr. Charged With 2 Felony Counts

April 9, 2009

MADISON, Wis. — A Madison man is facing two felony counts and up to 46 years in prison after being charged Wednesday in connection with an attempted armed robbery in the city of Madison.

Charles Tubbs Jr., 22, is accused of conspiracy to commit armed robbery and possession of a sawed-off 12-gauge shotgun.

Charles Tubbs Jr. is the son of Capitol Police Chief Charles Tubbs.
The criminal complaint said Tubbs Jr. and another man were driving around Madison with the shotgun on Dec. 8 and had planned to rob a drug dealer when they crashed their vehicle at Monroe Street and Commonwealth Avenue.

Tubbs’ younger son, Collin, 19, is also facing charges in connection with a string of arsons in February.

http://tinyurl.com/4u3fd5e


12 posted on 02/28/2011 6:23:10 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: SoFloFreeper

They probably did the right thing. These people wanted to be seen being dragged out in handcuffs. By not forcibly removing them they lost their camera shots. Once this bill is eventually passed these people will pack up and go home.


13 posted on 02/28/2011 6:24:06 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Yet_Again

>> Yes, but they have been exempted from this bill.

Still, they’re all “brothers”, and union blood is always thicker than righteousness.


14 posted on 02/28/2011 6:24:43 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: martinidon

Call in Putin to send over his gas police. Recall the theater take over in Moscow? They gassed the hijackers asleep. A few croaked but the better good was served.


15 posted on 02/28/2011 6:25:58 AM PST by Mouton
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To: martinidon

>> They probably did the right thing.

The *right* thing would be to allow a noisy counter-protester drum-line inside the capitol building to spend the night at, say, 10PM.


16 posted on 02/28/2011 6:26:54 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Sounds a bit like Mexico, when the teachers all filled the plaza, APPO and Seccion 22. In the end it is MOB rule, a few horny, angry, loud, mouthy poor souls speak for the silent masses who went to polls to express their sentiment.


17 posted on 02/28/2011 6:26:59 AM PST by rovenstinez (.)
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To: pnh102
No suprise there. The cops are also most likely union too.

Scenes of head-bashing by cops and screaming teachers being tossed into paddywagons are not what we want; that's what the Left and Big Labor want.

Most of these people have jobs in state government, either in Wisconsin or in other states. The way to deal with these sit-in people is through their employers.

18 posted on 02/28/2011 6:27:48 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Mouton

maybe there is a simpler solution. The people should stop paying taxes. If they have a sales tax don’t pay it. Stop paying for bad behavior.


19 posted on 02/28/2011 6:29:59 AM PST by magua
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To: Mouton

They gassed the hijackers asleep. A few croaked but the better good was served.

I like your style, Mouton! The liberals have trained the masses that being proactive is evil unless, of course, they are the ones doing it for righteousness’ sake.


20 posted on 02/28/2011 6:30:46 AM PST by rj45mis
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To: SoFloFreeper
Were they given orders to remove or not. If given that order did they refuse it.

The chief would not be in the union nor would the management of the state patrol.

The capitol police is just a small force I am sure the state troopers would be doing the most work.

The decision is not for the police to make they would need a lawful order from the governor.

21 posted on 02/28/2011 6:32:06 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: SoFloFreeper
From what I just saw on FNC the "protesters" are college aged students. I guess you don't have to go to school at UW Madison. No surprise there. It is a liberal bastion from hell.

Most of us from IL make jokes about Wisconsin but the people outside of the liberal bastions of Milwaukee and Madison are great people.

These are college student agitators who are either ditching class or are just bums paid by SEIU to sleep in their sleeping bags in the Capitol.

Last night I was furious and wanting to see the bums arrested and beaten with clubs but after thinking about it I agree with the other FReepers who say it is good they are staying. It shows that they DONT WORK!!! They are professional agitators!!!

22 posted on 02/28/2011 6:33:54 AM PST by Dengar01 (Go Blackhawks!!! Go Bulls!!!)
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To: magua

Scott Walker and the Repubs are going to have to get control of this situation and the only way to do it is to split the removal of collective bargaining off the budget repair bill and pass it as a stand alone. Then everything else becomes moot. There is no longer a reason for the runaway Dems to stay away. The mob may remain, but they would be on shaky ground as their purported reason for being there would no longer be valid. Their continued presence would be seen as threatening.


23 posted on 02/28/2011 6:36:03 AM PST by chickadee
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To: Steely Tom

The Governor is CIC of his National Guard. I would declare martial law. Call the NG out and clear out this mess. This is1 getting ridiculous. Wisconsin needs order- not teachers screaming like three year olds after someone took their candy.


24 posted on 02/28/2011 6:36:55 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: Mouton
So in a state that is not tea party friendly would you like the tatics that all are asking to use against these protestors be use against tea party protests.

Remember the people have a right to assembly and bring grievance's against the government if they are not doing so peacefully then harder action could be taken.

25 posted on 02/28/2011 6:39:43 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: SoFloFreeper

1. Lock the interior doors, including the restrooms.
2. Turn off the heat, turn off the water.
3. Don’t allow any more people to come in.

They’ll all be gone within 48 hours.


26 posted on 02/28/2011 6:39:46 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
No conflict of interest here........

/s

27 posted on 02/28/2011 6:41:13 AM PST by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

http://www.wppa.com/about.htm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2681219/posts

Yup they are bought and paid for!


28 posted on 02/28/2011 6:41:37 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

bttt


29 posted on 02/28/2011 6:43:36 AM PST by sbMKE
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To: riverrunner
Where is the sheriff when you need him?


30 posted on 02/28/2011 6:45:17 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, in honor of Standing Wolf.)
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To: SampleMan
1. Lock the interior doors, including the restrooms. 2. Turn off the heat, turn off the water. 3. Don’t allow any more people to come in. They’ll all be gone within 48 hours.

The problem here seems to be that the police are actively supporting the protesters and will do none of those things you listed to remove them. The police seem to be simply defying orders. I am guessing the capitol building workers are also unionized and supporting the protesters as well.

Apparently Walker and the Republicans decided not to force the issue. It looks to me like they backed down. There might be a good reason for them to do that, but whatever the case it gives the protesters a win and further momentum.

31 posted on 02/28/2011 6:45:17 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: SampleMan

Lock the doors from the outside. Keep all media outside. These self-appointed “martyrs” would be out in a flash. Media coverage is cheese to these attention-starved rats.


32 posted on 02/28/2011 6:46:01 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’ve got the perfect solution. . . Put Rush Limbaugh’s program on an intercom. Guarantee they will evacuate within minutes. : )


33 posted on 02/28/2011 6:46:28 AM PST by mia
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

You’re correct. Any perceived use of force by the authorities to get these people to leave would be portrayed as Libya in Madison by the cable networks. Which is exactly what the organizers of this event want.


34 posted on 02/28/2011 6:47:14 AM PST by 1raider1
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To: Mouton

Putin’s squads gassed the whole dam theater and it wasn’t just some of the hijackers who didn’t wake up

But hey, killing a few hostages was necessary to stop the impudent hijackers who were challenging state authority

In Russia (and some other 3rd world hellholes) I don’t know which is more terrifying, being taken hostage, or being rescued

No comparison, these white wine wannabe bolsheviks in Wisconsin are make-believ martyrs and everyone knows it. They actually think we’re going to accept their beliefs that governor asking them to pay 5% of their healthcare and 10% toward their pensions is equivalent to Qadaffi sending his MiGs and tanks against the people


35 posted on 02/28/2011 6:50:34 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: mia

Oh, I like that

Or maybe playing obama and moochelle speeches endlessly endlessly, along with recitations of obamas early poetry


36 posted on 02/28/2011 6:52:06 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Longbow1969
There are off duty police among the protesters. They are union too, and they know that if the other public-sector unions are crushed, it's only a matter of time before the same collective-bargaining rules are applied to police unions too.

Plus the chief of the Capital Police is likely a Democrat.

37 posted on 02/28/2011 6:53:20 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: 1raider1

These people want to recreate 1968.


39 posted on 02/28/2011 7:00:05 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Nervous Tick
"Are the state police unionized?"

That's a KEY part of the communist/progressive/socialist/Democrat agenda....

They've infiltrated the law enforcement, safety forces, and of course, the indoctrination camps called Public Schools.....

That's why the 2nd Amendment is the next target, along with bolstering their numbers with illegal aliens, who will CONTINUE to be at their mercy with handouts, same as the black population.

For those in America who don't understand what's happened; just keep turning on the TV to listen to the propoganda machine of the State Run Media.

40 posted on 02/28/2011 7:01:17 AM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Call out the National Guard, fence in a cow pasture, and retain the arrested squatters for 3 days....guaranteed dispersal.

Then, post sentry's at the Capitol entrance, and close the Capitol to visitors because the Democrat Senators are AWOL.

41 posted on 02/28/2011 7:04:01 AM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I heard from a friend that works at the capitol that the protesters are literally destroying the place with filth and trash. She said it is obvious that they have no respect for public areas and the stench is unbelievable.


42 posted on 02/28/2011 7:08:11 AM PST by RobertClark (On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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To: Mouton
*** Call in Putin to send over his gas police. ***

Good idea. But those weren't 'Police'.

Those guys were the Russian Spetsnaz, their Army's 'Special Forces'. But those 'Special Forces' are not like our US Army Special Forces (Green Berets), or any US Military Unit or Branch.

The Spetsnaz are trained killers above all else(1) and expect to die on every mission. Even during Spetsnaz Training soldiers can expect to die and they do -- and that's treated as normal.

So I think sending in the Wisconsin National Guard first would be more prudent ;-)

(1) They're trained to kill with any object they can get their hands on. As a last resort, close combat weapon, it's the good old 'Entrenching Tool'. They can use it like American Indians used Tomahawks.

43 posted on 02/28/2011 7:14:09 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Congressman. But I repeat myself. [Mark Twain])
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To: SoFloFreeper

Wisconsin police association urges members to join sleep-in at Capitol

By Muriel Kane
February 25, 2011 @ 6:34 pm

Wisconsin lawmakers approved [1] a rule change on Wednesday that would allow them to close the State Capitol building over the weekend and eject the protesters who have been camping there for the last week.

The new restrictions on items and sleeping areas within the Capitol were to go into effect at 4 PM on Friday, and the protesters were to be removed from state offices and hearing rooms after business hours on Saturday.

The head of Wisconsin’s Professional Police Association, however, not only opposes the plan but has called on police to join the sleep-in. According to a posting [2] at Dane101, a Madison area blog network, WPPA Executive Director Jim Palmer has asked Governor Scott Walker to keep the building open and allow the protesters to remain.

“The law enforcement officers from across the state that have been working at the Capitol and have been very impressed with how peaceful everyone has been,” Palmer stated. “As has been reported in the media, the protesters are cleaning up after themselves and have not caused any problems. The fact of that matter is that Wisconsin’s law enforcement community opposes Governor Walker’s effort to eliminate most union activity in this state, and we implore him to not do anything to increase the risk to officers and the public.”

Palmer also announced that the WPPA is asking its members from across the state to join the protests, explaining, “Law enforcement officers know the difference between right and wrong, and Governor Walker’s attempt to eliminate the collective voice of Wisconsin’s devoted public employees is wrong. That is why we have stood with our fellow employees each day and why we will be sleeping among them tonight.”

Palmer also noted that many police officers have already been participating in the protests in civilian clothes after providing security in their official function. “We may not have a big group but we’re going to try to have a presence just the same,” he stated [3]. “Who knows, maybe I’ll be there by myself.”

URL to article: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/25/wisconsin-police-association-urges-members-to-join-sleep-in-at-capitol/


44 posted on 02/28/2011 7:14:20 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: RobertClark

I’d say the stench is BELIEVABLE. After all...they are LIB/DIMs.


45 posted on 02/28/2011 7:14:33 AM PST by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: riverrunner

You obviously have a problem differentiating between a lawful protest and one that goes to the extreme of taking over a legislative body to stop legislative action. One changes legislative action by the ballot box. Those changes can be fomented by protest, rally, debate and the like. Once the legislature is formed, stopping a legislative process by duress is NOT lawful IMO, it is mob rule. Law which do not conform to a state or national constitution can be challenged in court or a future body can be elected to remove those laws. Again, not by mob rule but by the rule of law.


46 posted on 02/28/2011 7:22:06 AM PST by Mouton
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To: Fresh Wind

Thought so. That’s why the police haven’t stopped it.


47 posted on 02/28/2011 7:25:17 AM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Lumper20
Exactly right. Have the Governor call-up a couple of WIANG MP battalions and have them clear out the rabble. Then, bill all the unions for the damage and clean-up of their mess by whacking state funds to various school districts.

This might be moot anyway. WI will not be able to conduct legislative business involving funding due to a lack of a quorum caused by the Donkey “Gang of 14”. School districts won't get funding and they will have to start laying teachers off.

48 posted on 02/28/2011 7:26:04 AM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: All

Looks like they are going to try something new today. http://www.channel3000.com/news/27022953/detail.html


49 posted on 02/28/2011 7:29:39 AM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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