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The retired officer who yelled "gun" has a habit of listening to a scanner and going to the scene.
1 posted on 03/16/2011 6:38:16 AM PDT by marktwain
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...an unidentified retired NYPD sergeant from the neighborhood -- milling around outside -- cried out, "Gun!" Carver said.

I hope the "unidentified retired NYPD sergeant" will be charged with homicide.

2 posted on 03/16/2011 6:41:43 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Laz would hit it!)
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Rifle Slung over his shoulder? And they fired at point blank range? And the officer was wearing his badge around his neck? And he had his partner with him? Things ain’t adding up...........


3 posted on 03/16/2011 6:44:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (How can anyone look at the situation in Libya and be for gun control is beyond stupid. It's suicide.)
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Massive screw up in a sleepy Long Island town. Bad, bad crime scene management by dopey local cops, with a lunatic meddler fool with a police scanner, trigger happy other idiots who should not have been on the scene, and bad coordination with Special Service cops who arrived in civilian clothes long after the psychotic kid who started it all was shot down.

I hope heads will roll on this colossal screw up. Disgraceful police work. I blame the management, the higher ups.


4 posted on 03/16/2011 6:46:30 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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Hoplophobia at it’s best.

A rifle slung over a shoulder, calmly walking where there is plenty of law enforcement, and there is still panic at the word “gun”.

If an officer, retired or not, saw a man with a rifle slung over his shoulder and thought the person should not be there, they could have approached the person and identified themselves and asked questions.

I do blame the retired officer for setting it off, but why try to grab the weapon and then fire into a struggle? Those officers are likewise culpable for their panicky and poorly chosen decisions.


5 posted on 03/16/2011 6:46:47 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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The real take away from this is that the cops will INSTANTLY kill anyone with a gun UNLESS it is glaringly obvious that its a cop.


6 posted on 03/16/2011 6:46:50 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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“The retired officer who yelled “gun” has a habit of listening to a scanner and going to the scene.”

I didn’t see that in the article.


7 posted on 03/16/2011 6:47:16 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Sharia? No, thanks.)
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Sounds like a Serpico-style hit.

The deceased must have been refusing payola.

8 posted on 03/16/2011 6:47:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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This is tragic.


9 posted on 03/16/2011 6:48:20 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Here’s the problem with institutionalized hoplophobia: the presence of a morally neutral tool of deadly force such as a gun does not necessarily indicate a bad guy. A better solution would be the one the Founders intended: Americans owning and carrying arms everywhere.


11 posted on 03/16/2011 6:49:15 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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I’m with Red Badger. This doesn’t add up. A cop shoots a guy while the cop’s partner is wrestling with the guy? Really?


12 posted on 03/16/2011 6:50:14 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for good blaster kid.)
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“The retired officer who yelled “gun” has a habit of listening to a scanner and going to the scene”.

Sounds odd to me. I know several retired LEO’s and NONE of them listen to a scanner or show up on a scene. Once they retire, they retire. Sounds like this guy is a bit “squirrely”.


15 posted on 03/16/2011 6:50:34 AM PDT by momtothree
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If this account is even vaguely accurate, this was nothing but straight-up murder by Gentile.


17 posted on 03/16/2011 6:50:42 AM PDT by Sloth (If a tax cut constitutes "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should count as a "desposit.")
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What a waste! That retired cop should think about this every day of the rest of his miserable, nosy life! I wonder if the dead officer tried to identify himself? Tragic.....


19 posted on 03/16/2011 6:52:40 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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Even with the moron yelling “GUN” they still had no reason to shoot him. What if he really had been a civilian with a rifle slung over his shoulder? Since when is that enough cause to shoot?


20 posted on 03/16/2011 6:52:45 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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There's a lot of anger with my guys right now about this whole thing," Carver said. "My guy was dead before he hit the ground. He had no chance."

Hey, if it was the EXACT SAME situation and the guy was a citizen, they'd be giving each other medals.

21 posted on 03/16/2011 6:54:03 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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And an officer dressed in plain clothes appearing at the scene carrying a rifle?

Sad outcome but it seems we have a scapegoat selected already.


22 posted on 03/16/2011 6:54:46 AM PDT by Carley (WISCONSIN STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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I don’t care what ScannerMan yelled. Was he their commanding officer? Do they just routinely grab guns and shoot people based on whatever someone happens to yell, or are they trained to do their f**king job the right way?


27 posted on 03/16/2011 7:00:16 AM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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Very sad that this officer was killed.

If there is an underlying theme, it is that the NY culture assumes that a firearm is bad, in and of itself. So much so that several people here considered the possession itself to be a mortal threat.


29 posted on 03/16/2011 7:04:33 AM PDT by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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..."He's one of us,"...

If he weren't, everything would be OK?

39 posted on 03/16/2011 7:18:55 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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Now are we supposed to beleive that the shooting of the citizen was legit as well? Or was it done by hyped-up cops who had itchy trigger fingers?


43 posted on 03/16/2011 7:29:22 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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