Posted on 03/23/2011 8:01:22 PM PDT by Hojczyk
It’s weird to think of him pulling votes from anyone, but … Palin? The candidate with the single most devoted base in the entire field?
Draw me a Venn diagram of their respective constituencies, please.
Ten percent of Republicans and independents who lean Republican say they would most likely support Trump for the GOP’s 2012 presidential nomination.
That would place him fifth on the list behind former Arkansas Gov. and 2008 Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee at 19 percent, former Massachusetts Gov. and 2008 White House hopeful Mitt Romney at 18 percent, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 14 percent, and 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin at 12 percent…
“Removing Trump’s name from the list and allocating his voters to their second choice gives Huckabee 21 percent and Romney 19 percent – essentially unchanged from January. In a Trump-less field, Gingrich gets 15 percent, up from 10 percent in January, and Paul goes from 7 percent to 11 percent. Palin is the big loser, dropping from 19 percent in a no-Trump round in January to just 13 percent now,” adds Holland.
That’s the fun part of the poll. The less fun part is that Democratic enthusiasm has jumped to 56 percent, trimming a 22-point Republican advantage to … just six. I’m trying hard not to attribute that to a backlash on the left against Wisconsin, but it’s the most compelling explanation I can think of.
As for the Trump/Palin overlap, maybe there’s a portion of disengaged Republican voters who tilt towards the candidate with the highest name recognition. Normally that’s Sarah, but That Guy From “The Apprentice” out-celebrities even her. Similarly, could be that some righties are looking to liven up the debates for fear of a Romney/Pawlenty/Gingrich/Daniels soporific nightmare. Palin and Trump would both achieve that. Or maybe some of Palin’s support right now is as a protest vote by people disaffected with the establishment GOP. I’m skeptical of that, though, since protest votes don’t normally go to candidates like her who can actually win.
If the Trump vote is coming from people who are simply looking to spoil a ballot as a kiss-off to the top contenders in the field, I would think he’d be pulling more from someone like Ron Paul (who actually finished two points behind Trump) than from her.
All theories welcome. Via JWF, here he is
If they were truly an accurate gauge of a future candidates electability, Obama wouldn't run for reelection and Mike Huckabee would be the next President, and neither of those instances are going to occur.
She’s supporting Obama’s action in Libya
Who does Sheen hurt? Everybody. Hello? It’s called “Winning!” /s
Not ruddy likely.
Donald Trump is an avid supporter of American sovereignty, as well as an expert in financial affairs, and I believe that he is a flaming patriot. While I believe that Sarah Palin equals the Donald in patriotism and American sovereignty, I do think that Trump might just prove to be an at least equal challenger to Palin, and a winner against all others. I can support either of the afore-mentioned candidates, or especially both, in either order.
What does "THE DONALD" do, should he enter the fray and during the primaries, his opponents haul out the vile stuff that was made public during his divorces? What does he do when he is trashed for his bankruptcies, lies, exaggerations, past support of lots and lots of Dems, including Rahm Emmanuel?
Lots of people HATE him; hate him more than they hate Sarah Palin, even.
And do you really believe that he's going to accept having to not be in charge of his empire ?
Obama and Clinton have set a precedence on baggage. Ever heard about some of Obama's terrorist friends? And Bill Clinton won re-election despite all his baggage from before and during his first term.
Thanks to Obama and Clinton the doors have reopened for Oliver North, Newt Gingrich, Donald Trump, heck even Nixon could be electable after the precedence set by Obama and Clinton.
Watch her with Greta, if you missed it and if you didn't, you didn't hear/or absorb what she said.
ditto that. Furthermore, I see his birther ploy as just that, a ploy to pull a key demographic out from under the true conservatives in the race. He’s gaming us.
I totally agree that the polls are going to move around wildly as events change. That is why I am not dismissing Trump or Palin, nor am I cheerleading them. I have such a deep hatred of Obummer that any opportunity to throw him out in ‘12 is how I will vote. I think all of this will reveal itself after two things. We see who is actually running in the primary and the first couple debates. Debates always weed out the weak right away so the focus can be on the real deals.
I have one caveat on dismissing possible candidates. I have dismissed that POS Myth Romney. Romneycare should have him at home writing books this election, not running against Obamacare.
It would be nice to know all the candidates' stances on business and economics. It's a very important issue this time around.
Whole countrys can tank and the well-positioned can profit from it. Just ask George Soros. Trump is a Perot-in-waiting.
She's always been a GOPer; Trump has only been a registered GOPer for a few years in the late '80s-'99 and then reregisterred as one in '09.
Trump is only angry at China, now, over some business dealings.
Then you don’t mind that Trump favors the killing of unborn children?
I think you misunderstood me. I didn’t say I supported Trump. I think others want to see him run simply for the entertainment value.
Whether or not Trump knows anything about foreign policy, he can sell the idea that he does.
Brackets’ is a community organizer who can’t even organize an Allied Coalition much less the Middle East “Community.”
The MSM covered up and covered for Obama, to such a point, that very few ( the great unwashed, brain dead )knew about Ayers and Wright, etc. and they won't know about any of it in '12.
That has never been and certainly won't be the case for any of the GOPer hopefuls during the primary and election season of '12.
Given enough time, Trump could put himself into a Soros-like position. But it would probably take longer than a campaign cycle in which he had hopes. Should Palin come out on top, she would definitely reach out to Trump.
Where has Trump gone on record on either side of the abortion fight? Trump-branded abortion facilities appear to be rather scarce.
But if Trump is the only one standing in the end to go against our closeted Muslim President, we would also have to consider his religion and ask ourselves, who does Obama favor killing?
Obviously, you don't know much, if anything at all about him. He hasn't a chance to win and become the GOP nominee; however, he might, indeed, pull votes from others..........not that there's anyone worth a damn, outside of Sarah Palin, in the talked about group of possibilities.
I don't, for one second, believe that any GOPer can beat Obama; however, I do think that Palin can....though it will be a difficult slog.
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