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We've Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers. More people work for government than most industries.
Wall Street Journal ^ | 04/01/2011 | Stephen Moore

Posted on 04/01/2011 7:56:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

If you want to understand better why so many states—from New York to Wisconsin to California—are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, consider this depressing statistic: Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

It gets worse. More Americans work for the government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities combined. We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers. Nearly half of the $2.2 trillion cost of state and local governments is the $1 trillion-a-year tab for pay and benefits of state and local employees. Is it any wonder that so many states and cities cannot pay their bills?

Every state in America today except for two—Indiana and Wisconsin—has more government workers on the payroll than people manufacturing industrial goods. Consider California, which has the highest budget deficit in the history of the states. The not-so Golden State now has an incredible 2.4 million government employees—twice as many as people at work in manufacturing. New Jersey has just under two-and-a-half as many government employees as manufacturers. Florida's ratio is more than 3 to 1. So is New York's.

Even Michigan, at one time the auto capital of the world, and Pennsylvania, once the steel capital, have more government bureaucrats than people making things. The leaders in government hiring are Wyoming and New Mexico, which have hired more than six government workers for every manufacturing worker.

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To: SeekAndFind
There is more to this than the economical imbalance of trying to serve the debt created by union dependency and entitlements.

Government workers will naturally vote for more government - that also means voting for democrats. It becomes a cultural path for them. Along with that culture is the acquiescence or belief in one world governance and Agenda 21; the use of environmental smoke and mirrors to control all economy and property.

I think we all see the inevitable future and understand that we are now past the point of no return.

World governance ...world tax ...world courts ...Sharia.

I doubt we can turn back...

41 posted on 04/01/2011 9:23:12 PM PDT by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jobs related to government contracts are some of the few in the private sector that offer more than the civil service. Their employers, like the civil services, are able to outbid private employers. Not unfailingly true: the inventive industries are expanding enough that only the second-rate in such fields work for the government. One can be pretty sure it was second-raters who were doing the inspection down on the oil rig that blew up.


42 posted on 04/01/2011 9:42:43 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: thesharkboy
Do his positions on borders and amnesty invalidate his message? If so, how? If not, then what's the point of your post?

Exactly. I knew wasn't the only one thinking along that line.

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

43 posted on 04/01/2011 10:42:44 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: Fredgoblu

It’s the insane government salaries and benefits that hurts us the most. The average government salary is what? 65K? Add to that the free (or nearly free) health insurance, unbelievable 90% pensions, 20 year retirements, holidays, sick and vacation leave, etc. etc. etc. and you have a recipe for disaster. The only work these people do is come up with more regulations to shut down businesses or force them to move overseas. How much land does the government own? Things like parks, wilderness areas(means keep people and business out) take up HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of acres of productive land in this country. This should all be turned over to private business to run. That alone would create thousands and thousands (of normal paying) jobs instead of having thousands of bureaucrats running around crying about some three toed centipede.


44 posted on 04/02/2011 3:36:42 AM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12)
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To: SpringtoLiberty

“But look what has happened in WI. Even after they passed a LAW! the leftists have found ways to ignore the will of the people.”

That is very disturbing; here in NJ when we vote down school budgets, rather than simply leave the budget at the current level, there is some kind of process that results in increases anyway. Now that many people pay $10K+ in property taxes (that is how our public schools are funded), the taxpaying population and corporations are leaving and they still won’t shrink school systems/cut budgets. One result of the teachers’ battle with Governor Christie is that the teachers have kept everything while the cops & firemen get cut (since they can now only raise taxes so much, and it is not even enough for the teachers’ pay increases and costs of benefits - they simply cut somewhere else).

The Democrats’ prime concern has to be stopping the migration of taxpaying Americans from the lib states; they take their electoral votes and tax revenues with them, leaving illegal aliens, our permanent underclass, and the public employees to “administer” the reservation with few resources. If they “nationalize” the socialism, there would be nowhere to flee to; the serfs would be stuck on their communes. They push home ownership at all costs because it ideally generates a property tax revenue stream and they realize that high-earning tenants are the first to flee.


45 posted on 04/02/2011 3:40:29 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: sand88

“The parasite class (govt at all levels) is growing at a pace that unsustainable. The parasite class will surely crush and kill the golden goose of capitalism. For our Republic to survive, government at ALL levels must be severely slashed.”

There is no better illustration of this than what has happened in CA, NJ and NY, yet there is no willingness to face reality. I’m glad to see Governor Christie isn’t losing popularity, as he is the only governor of the 3 states to tell it like it is. Governor Cuomo has presented a reduced budget, but I’m hearing a lot of people call it smoke and mirrors. Being ignorant of the details, I’ll wait & see; Like NJ and CA, NY has lost a lot of taxpayers and the corporations that used to employ them.


46 posted on 04/02/2011 3:45:34 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: SeekAndFind

So America.

How’s that outsourcing thing working?


47 posted on 04/02/2011 3:45:49 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Trump 2012 - America First)
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To: RobbyS

“Jobs related to government contracts are some of the few in the private sector that offer more than the civil service. Their employers, like the civil services, are able to outbid private employers.”

Many of these jobs are subject to the “51% of workers must be certain ethnic minorities or women” as well; the taxpayers tha fund the projects are often prevented from working on them by their skin color and gender. To compensate for the tokens, a job that requires 50 men simply hires 49 white men and 51 “others” in order to get the work done; what a bargain!


48 posted on 04/02/2011 3:49:55 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: SpringtoLiberty
A free and independent republic of Texas.

FedGov™ is evil. There is only three choices you can make in the face of evil.

  1. Join the evil bastards.
  2. Kill The evil.
  3. Seperate (secede)from the evil.

Can I come too? All I ask is don't shoot me coming across the border, I'm on your side.

49 posted on 04/02/2011 3:59:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rabscuttle385
A "free and independent republic of Texas" can just as easily suffer from rampant, runaway statism as a nation of fifty States and associated territories.

As long as people like you stay away. Texas will be just fine.

50 posted on 04/02/2011 4:00:50 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is disturbing, on it's face, and somewhat on it's substance, because a government-based paycheck recipient will tend to vote Left.

HOWEVER

This is a product of our incredible productivity and ingenuity. It now takes one person to do the industrial work of 100, and that causes there to be less employees on shop floors -- many less -- for as good or better of a standard of living (provided among the populace).

Something to understand.

51 posted on 04/02/2011 4:42:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Leftist Grand Plan: the “embourgeoisement” of the shiftless.
aka suck on the taxpayer tit then vote for the Dem POS.
52 posted on 04/02/2011 4:47:00 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("WARNING" -Sarah Palin is a very dangerous woman--she defends herself when attacked.)
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To: Happy Rain

This article is just further proof (as if any more was needed) that nobama (and his parasitic, destructive minions) hate you, hate your children, hate Free America, hate Americans, hate the Constitution and hate the Bill of Rights. nobama is the Destroyer and a hate crime against Freedom.

The way out of this may not be pretty.


53 posted on 04/02/2011 4:55:23 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: knarf

“The snowball rolled and we’re in the middle of the belly of the snowman.”

interesting analogy


54 posted on 04/02/2011 5:17:22 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: SeekAndFind
What country can survive when most of what's being done is just pushing paper from one side of the desk to the other. The only time government workers break a sweat is when they grab one of the 40 stamps on their desk and slam it on the pieces of paper.

Approved

Denied

55 posted on 04/02/2011 5:27:04 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (If healthcare reform is passed, 41 years old will be the new 65 YO.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This nation also has TONS of folks who though technically are unemployed and some receive government aid,have OTHER sources of income that they will never claim.

Many of us know too many people who work out of their home providing various services from auto repair, home repair,creating arts and crafts for sale or a just a low level drug dealer who accept cash only to avoid the taxman.

I do not believe at all that capitalism is dead in the USA and simple reforms like implementing a fair tax code and serious reducing welfare would go a long way in creating economic prosperity.

Securing economic freedom from the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT should be our number one priority.


56 posted on 04/02/2011 5:41:36 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: The_Reader_David

Steel ~ US Still has ALL the serious specialty steel manufacturing. Semiconductor devvices? ~ we have the semiconductor manufacturing edge and are producing more and more of the suckers with less and less input, and smaller and smaller sizes. It’s hard to tell what you mean here ~ depends on which stage of the industry is relevant at any given time.


57 posted on 04/02/2011 5:48:24 AM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: central_va
Texas has gotten more than its fair share of government loot the last half century ~ Johnson Space Center springs to mind.

Texas exists because the United States helps it stay different from Mexico to some extent.

58 posted on 04/02/2011 5:52:52 AM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: Tigerized

Who is John Galt? “Atlas Shrugged” The Movie Opens April 15th,SHOULD BE MANDATORY viewing FOR ALL SCHOOL CHILDREN,Adults can choose for themselves most of them are just Looters who are Lost Causes.


59 posted on 04/02/2011 6:07:37 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: SeekAndFind; waterhill; ixtl
Spending millions and billions of dollars on foreign aid is not helping our situation either, and, is not helping the people the money is intended to help anyway.

Why should we pay for the whole world?

IF we would embrace oil and natural gas exploration and production in this country, we could power our economy for the next hundred years and cripple the economies of those who wish to enslave us.

DRILL BABY DRILL!

((((ping))))
60 posted on 04/02/2011 6:09:31 AM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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