Life imitates art.
Posted on 04/22/2011 4:24:18 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
DETROIT (WXYZ) - The jury has found that a proposed protest by Quran-burning pastor Terry Jones outside the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, the largest mosque in the United States, is likely to breach the peace and incite violence.
The jury has been debating since 3:30 p.m .Thursday. The main issue of the trial was whether or not Jones' main purpose was to say or do something that would incite violence.
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The pair were tried under a rarely used law originally passed in 1846 that requires those who are likely to breach the peace to post "peace bonds."
IANAL, but if the judge had offered me a choice of “judge, or jury” I’d have declined to choose, just to be on the safe side.
Otherwise they can say it’s a kangaroo court he “chose.”
How can a jury and court be convened to find a “guilty verdict” before any action happens?
This jury was set up on thursday?
Inciting violence means directing people TO violence, not being willing to suffer from people’s violence to YOU!
Sounds like it should be!
I am assuming this will be appealed? Anybody know?
Life imitates art.
which goes to show, we’re not longer a nation of laws... just a nation of cute guidelines that will be inflicted upon the political enemies of the ruling party
so much for upholding the Constitution. their word is sh*t. treat them accordingly.
WOnder if they would restrain muslims for the same kinds of protests.
Seriously doubt it. They’d probably demand the church stop holding services.
This is a repeat of the Illinois Nazis v. Skokie from the 70’s. Just replace religion of peace with Holocaust survivors in that case. It’s basic constitutional law that even a 2nd year law student would know.
It’s a prior restraint on free speech and I hope Dearborn has a good municipal insurance policy because they are going to owe Pastor Jones a lot of money when this gets overturned. For once I actually agree with the ACLU (and I can’t believe I’m saying that.)
Here’s a prior restraint case that’s similar to the current one...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie
Obama said this is NOT a Christian nation. You must have missed the speech.
You have Free Speech ... to the extent that it doesn’t offend people who will get violent with you. Then you’re “inciting” and you have no Free Speech.
If our free speech is limited by the sensibilities of others, then we have no free speech.
Have police go with the guy. Protect him. Let him have his First Amendment rights. Move on.
Where’s the ACLU on this one? Isn’t this exactly the type of case they hop in when it’s a leftist kook doing Piss Christ?
The ACLU filed an Amicus brief with the court earlier today. Also, I understand that both men will now be represented by the ACLU in their appeal. Unfortunately, the men represented themselves today. That was a mistake.
From what I understand, on several occasions, the trial judge asked if they would like to object, which would have preserved certain issues on appeal. Either they didn't understand the importance of such objections, or they didn't care. In any event, those errors will make it a bit more challenging for the ACLU. But still, it would be WILDLY unlikely these men don't prevail - either in state or, or eventually in federal court.
One of the Detroit TV stations is reporting that the ACLU will be representing both men in their appeal - FWIW.
I suspect it's likely we'll see an appeal, and later a civil action filed against Wayne County.
Jones’
Either is considered correct, but Strunk & White prefer Jones's (or did when I was in school).
Oh?
“This is a Christian Nation....”
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The Founders meant it to be that way, but they failed to state so in the Constitution.
Then exactly what "Lord" were they talking about when they SIGNED AND SEALED The Constitution using THIS language (IN The Constitution)?
Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth. In Witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names...
Lawsuit City . . . some nice $$$ for deprivation of Constitutional rights
This is really unbelievable.
The two groups that the left-wing will want to lock you up if you speak against them are Islamists and homosexual perverts.
Perverts, terrorists and democrats... perfect together.. oh my!
The Muslims are expected to react as if they are without responsibility for their own actions
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