Posted on 04/29/2011 7:47:51 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
At a gathering some years ago, I had a political conversation with a man who had recently arrived here from Denmark. He was advocating his home country's socialist system, which, of course, led to profound disagreement. He was good natured and cordial, however, so the debate ended on a polite note. Yet it also ended on an ironic one: When asked if he wanted to return home, his answer was no.
This is a common phenomenon. We see it, for instance, in liberal northerners who move to the South for the lower taxes and cost of living and greater freedom but then continue to vote for the kind of politicians who made the Northeast a nice place to leave. And while this befuddles many, it's simply man's nature. Of course people want that which is good, such as a better lifestyle, but wanting and attaining are two different things. Everyone wants good health, for example, but many nevertheless are too attached to unhealthful foods and practices to relinquish them. Oh, they might move into your healthy body if they could, but they would likely do to it what a government — subsidized project does to a good neighborhood.
Now, there is a reason why I'm talking about how a change in location doesn't equate to a change in ideology. In the Financial Times recently, Richard McGregor reported on the latest population data, writing:
The electorate has become less white and more Hispanic more rapidly than predicted, according to the national census, two trends that will influence elections for decades.
...Mr Obama and the Democrats have long had a significant lead among minority voters, [and these demographic changes are] lifting their chances of taking states such as Nevada, Georgia and Arizona [which were] lost in 2008.
(Excerpt) Read more at renewamerica.com ...
Most of the Cuban, Russian, Eastern European and Asian immigrants I have met are hardcore conservatives.
If you leave a third world crap hole and come to America seeking a better life, what good does it do to bring all your third world crap hole ideas and beliefs with you?..........
I'd like the US to do that. Immigration = more millionaires coming in.
We need to focus on native born Americans and making sure that they get good educations and good jobs. We have 320 million people -- I see no reason to bring in a whole lot of immigrants and give them opportunities. In the long run, we're just expanding our own underclass.
I notice that you did NOT include northern/western/southern Europeans and Hispanics. How about them?
If it is that bad then how did the 2010 election go so badly for Democrats? Obama will lose in 2012. He has to. Period.
And I knew a guy who smoked since he was 15 and lived past 90.
You have simply met immigrants in the 21% minority. But the stats and voting patterns are what they are. So what’s your point?
I have often said the same thing about New Yorkers flooding to Florida to retire, because the taxes are to high in New York. However, they continue to vote for the same things that forced them out of their state.
It goes to show you, that you really can't fix stupid.
The only good thing about all the liberals moving to Florida is they are so old that they don’t stay long..................
A hard-hitting article, well worth your time to read it all.
His final comments:
“Of course, my predictions are based on certain assumptions, not the least of which is that there will be an intact American republic to elect a leader in the future. But with how balkanized we are — the left-right and secular-religious divides, groups such as La Raza (the Race) and MEChA and the desire to “reconquer” Ca. and the Southwest in Mexico’s name — this is not a given. And, you know what, it might not be a bad thing. Because what is a given is that the nation’s dissolution may represent the only chance, albeit a small one, to establish a traditionalist bastion. Why? Well, just remember 79 percent of 36.3, 40, 50, 60 and 70. If traditionalists have to compete against a national tide like that, the crickets will soon be chirping over Western civilization in North America.”
Indeed.
Prediction:
In fifty years, one of two possibilities:
1. There won’t BE an “America” of 50 states any more, or...
2. America will still exist, but it will be forcibly held together by the force and blunt power of statism.
In previous comments regarding Islam in Europe, I’ve often posted that Western Europeans face one of two possible futures:
1. Boxcars, or
2. Burqhas.
Told you that to tell you this:
Here in the Western Hemisphere, it looks to me like Euro-Americans are now facing only two possible futures:
1. To become a shrinking minority dominated by non-Euro populations (and demonized as the Jews were [and still are] in Europe), or...
2. To fight back (and not just by “peaceful protest”), and re-assert their rights to North America, demographically, politically, and culturally.
What other options could there be?
Why is the Left so dumb?
And Texas!
Soon Texas will go permanently blue and that will be the end.
Dark times are coming
I agree 100%. I think that if things stay “peaceful” then we will slide into a nightmare world. The only way to avoid it is to be decidely “unpeaceful”, and I worry that Americans do not have the stomach for that sort of choice.
Of the various electoral blocs in the US, only black Americans are monolithic in their support for the Democrats, with of course scant numbers of black Republicans.
Ethnic Mexicans, on the other hand, are anything but monolithic.
To start with, let’s discard the nonsensical, Reagan-era fabrication called “Hispanic”. There is no such thing, because it is too inclusive.
So when I say ethnic Mexicans, I mean just that. They run the political gamut from socialist, but not communist, of which there are very few indeed, to extremely conservative and right wing.
Catholicism predominates, but today is followed closely by Evangelical Christianity and atheism and paganism. And there are many degrees to all of the above.
Ethnic Mexicans in America also have great political diversity, often adapting to the politics of where they live. In blue States, they tend to become liberal. In red States, conservative. They also cover the spectrum of “social” vs. “economic” in their interests, as well.
The bottom line is that, once unrestricted immigration ends, in a generation or two, ethnic Mexican voters will be indistinguishable from white voters in their preferences.
Obama will lose in 2012
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From your lips to God’s ears. I wish I was as confident of that as you.
50 or 75 years ago every last member of my large Irish family around here would have likely stoned me for being a Republican. Likewise Italians, Poles, and all the other immigrant groups at the time. Times change as subsequent generations look to advance up the ladder.
I will concede though that a big sudden surge in Hispanics would tend to give the Democrats the short-term edge.
Let’s see. You guys are advocating violence to get rid of those of us who are immigrants? What are your criteria other than being “third world” or does that about do it?
I want English to be the official language. I oppose multi-culturalism. I want traditional American values to be promoted. Anyone who wants to go along with that, is fine by me.
The people who refuse to assimilate? I would to see society declare that their welfare is not our affair. That doesn't mean violence, but it means no enabling of any kind.
I don't care where you're from. If you live here, try to be American. Don't tell me that George Washington was a slave owner, don't push Kwanzaa in the government schools, and don't protest the creche on the town common.
There’s a strong argument being made that those who rely on gov’t. for their livelihood, by way of a salary or an “entitlement” now out number those who pay to support gov’t.; ergo, the takers can now overpower the makers. The future of America is people will produce only by threat of force and violence, the incentive of an improved standard of living having been wiped out entirely by redistribution schemes.
They are not fleeing socialism or the failed ideology.
They simply flee funding it.
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