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Fox News: 9 Americans killed by Afghan were NOT allowed to have loaded weapons!

Posted on 04/30/2011 6:38:31 AM PDT by macquire

Listening to Col David Hunt (Retired) on Fox right now explaining how the rules of engagement did not permit the Americans the Afghan pilot killed to have loaded weapons on base. The angry pilot simply shot them execution style after he left the meeting and retrieved a loaded firearm from his office.

Have any of you heard this before? I am outraged.

How do you fight a war with one hand tied behind your back?


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To: macquire

Nobody carries loaded weapons on the FOB. You always carry in “green” status. You’re supposed to always have your assigned weapon and a single magazine on you at all times, but the weapon is not to be loaded.

It’s a safety issue, it has nothing to do with ROE.

Calm down.


41 posted on 04/30/2011 7:11:30 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: yldstrk

Anyone who votes for Obama next year will have the blood of our soldiers on their hands!

FUBO


42 posted on 04/30/2011 7:12:14 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: macquire

“How do you fight a war with one hand tied behind your back?”

You don’t. Another of husseins attempt at losing the war to muslims and their satanic cult.



43 posted on 04/30/2011 7:14:55 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Future Snake Eater

Do the Afghan soldiers have the same rules?


44 posted on 04/30/2011 7:16:40 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: macquire

Aside from the IDIOTIC rules of engagement, THE TRAINING SUCKS!

NINE people should be trained to overwhelm an attacker, RATHER THAN SUBMITTING TO EXECUTION!!


45 posted on 04/30/2011 7:16:51 AM PDT by G Larry
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To: macquire
How do you fight a war with one hand tied behind your back?

The same rules the regime has mandated for our war on the (Mexican) border....rubber bullets.

I thank your son for his service. May God bless and keep him.

46 posted on 04/30/2011 7:17:10 AM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Nine Americans dead. I have no intention of “calming down”.


47 posted on 04/30/2011 7:17:34 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Blue Highway
"We can learn from Israel’s non PC style..."

Search the term, "Israeli Carry". The Israeli military does not carry their weapons with a round chambered.

At some time, someone must have run the statistics on casualties resulting from accidental discharges vs. casualties from the bad guys.

48 posted on 04/30/2011 7:18:13 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Sooth2222

Nope. Hunt was clear: They were NOT allowed loaded weapons and it was NOT a matter of just putting a round in the chamber. Good LORD sir, give our military SOME credit. If NINE American soldiers were in a room and a guy walks in with a handgun and tells them to drop their firearms and get against the wall, DON’T you think all NINE of them would say F you, have a round chambered in 1/2 of a second? Sheese.

This is what bothered me from the gitgo on this story. I KNEW there was more to it than this. I can’t picture a single American soldier KNOWING that once he is disarmed he is dead. Do you think they train our soldiers to drop their weapons when confronted? If you do, you need to go back to training.


49 posted on 04/30/2011 7:22:29 AM PDT by macquire
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To: autumnraine; xzins
Obama Regime orders U.S. troops in Afghanistan to carry WEAPONS with NO BULLETS!

It is not a "weapon" without bullets. It is an oversized paperweight.

50 posted on 04/30/2011 7:23:12 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Sooth2222

Another dumb post by you alluding to “maybe they just didn’t have a round chambered”.

Sheese. Get a clue.


51 posted on 04/30/2011 7:23:26 AM PDT by macquire
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To: macquire

He said the other Afghans in the room went out the windows when the shooting started.


52 posted on 04/30/2011 7:24:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: yldstrk

bump


53 posted on 04/30/2011 7:26:18 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Prayers for missing Marizela Perez. Prayers for her safe return.)
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To: Steel Wolf

The NINE were not “ambushed”. They were lined up and shot execution style. They were NOT allowed firearms on or near their person. Obviously nobody asked the Afghan pilot if he was obeying the rules because he simply walked back to his office and retrieved a loaded handgun.


54 posted on 04/30/2011 7:26:18 AM PDT by macquire
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To: Future Snake Eater
You’re supposed to always have your assigned weapon and a single magazine on you at all times, but the weapon is not to be loaded. It’s a safety issue, it has nothing to do with ROE. Calm down.

It is not a weapon UNTIL it is loaded.

55 posted on 04/30/2011 7:26:25 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

How on earth do 9 people submit to execution like this. If they all rushed the guy with chairs and threw things at him, may one or two would have died.

WTF kind of training are these guys getting?

BRING THEM HOME NOW!


56 posted on 04/30/2011 7:28:26 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: Allegra
It means you have your weapon and you have your magazines, but there is not a magazine loaded in the weapon.

When stationed at Kabul International Airport four years ago, we carried weapons with a magazine loaded, and reserve magazines in belts. (No round chambered.)

Can't say what has changed since then, but moving to the new compound should not have changed that practice.

(Damn sis, that is a sweet lookin' tag line you got there! hehehe)
57 posted on 04/30/2011 7:28:36 AM PDT by tongue-tied
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To: Sooth2222

There were far more in the room than the 9 the killer shot. According to reports, many trainers leaped out of the windows to escape which tells me THEY WERE NOT allowed to have a firearm there PERIOD. Out of a room full of Americans, IN YOUR WORLD, not a single COMBAT TRAINED American soldier ducked down, pulled his magazine and handgun from his belt slammed the magazine home, chambered a round, and returned fire......


58 posted on 04/30/2011 7:34:21 AM PDT by macquire
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To: macquire

This is the politically correct way of fighting a war. We win their hearts and minds and everyone (?) lives peacefully ever afterward/s The is some of the biggest BS that I have heard about lately.


59 posted on 04/30/2011 7:36:01 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Maybe these 9 were still shell shocked from their forced “DADT Repealed” diversity acceptance training...

Under Obama, they probably have been forced to receive more hours in diversity training than defending themselves in combat.


60 posted on 04/30/2011 7:36:50 AM PDT by macquire
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