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California Prison Academy: Better Than a Harvard Degree
Wall Street Journal online ^ | * APRIL 30, 2011 | ALLYSIA FINLEY

Posted on 05/01/2011 8:12:29 AM PDT by unique

Prison guards can retire at the age of 55 and earn 85% of their final year's salary for the rest of their lives. They also continue to receive medical benefits.

As a California prison guard, you can make six figures in overtime and bonuses alone. While Harvard-educated lawyers and consultants often have to work long hours with little recompense besides Chinese take-out, prison guards receive time-and-a-half whenever they work more than 40 hours a week. One sergeant with a base salary of $81,683 collected $114,334 in overtime and $8,648 in bonuses last year, and he's not even the highest paid.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: prisons; unions
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To: unique

Yes, but if you’re mixed-race, arriving and attending under mysterious and anonymous and unrecorded unpublicized circumstances, you have the chance to Elmer Gantry your way into a presidency....beats a great pension anytime.


21 posted on 05/01/2011 9:24:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
You couldn’t entice me into that job for three times that pay.

The question is could you entice enough qualified applicants at half the pay? Time to privatize the whole system

22 posted on 05/01/2011 9:30:21 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Leaning Right
But such articles need to focus more on who set up these benefits, not on who is legally receiving them.

So I can assume you will post the same sentiments on the next teacher-bashing thread?

23 posted on 05/01/2011 9:34:09 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: unique

Some California prison guards have been busted for selling smokes for $100.00 a pack wonder what they get for drugs?.


24 posted on 05/01/2011 9:41:07 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Pontiac
Not all of their overtime is 1 1/2. You are forgetting double and triple time pay.
25 posted on 05/01/2011 9:41:44 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: unique
I'm sure it's a great job!


26 posted on 05/01/2011 9:42:27 AM PDT by stormer
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To: unique
No one sees the problem here. It is an inherent conflict of interest for politicians to set pay and benefits for those who donate to their campaigns and elect them to office. Can you think of anything remotely similar in the private sector? If you work in the private sector, when is the last time you got to decide who your boss was? When was the last time you slipped an envelope in your boss' pocket stuffed with cash with the implicit expectation of reaping an increased salary or better benefits?
27 posted on 05/01/2011 9:46:45 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- follow the money and you'll find truth.)
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To: Beagle8U
You are forgetting double and triple time pay.

You may be correct but the article states:

prison guards receive time-and-a-half whenever they work more than 40 hours a week.

28 posted on 05/01/2011 10:10:57 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: stormer

(Caption for your picture)

“Listen up,fellas the rec room is closed until we get the cue ball back for the pool table and when we find out whos been shitting in the showers.Have a nice day.”


29 posted on 05/01/2011 10:33:22 AM PDT by TShaunK
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To: TShaunK

LOL


30 posted on 05/01/2011 10:40:22 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Rockitz

BINGO, of course!

What about a citizens committee - non partisan (if that’s possible) to decide/negotiate pay and benefits covering public sector employees?

The ironic thing is that most public sector employees in CA have a similar deal, even those not involved in law enforcement. Paying un-accrued benefits for 20-25 years is way over the top!


31 posted on 05/01/2011 10:46:03 AM PDT by unique
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

And 30% or more probably are illegal aliens we now get to food ,clothe and medicate...


32 posted on 05/01/2011 10:55:32 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Pontiac
If it is like most big unions, yes, they get time and one half over 40 hours. But they also get 1 1/2 for anything over 8 hr in a day and all time worked on Saturday, and double time for everything over 8 hr on Saturday and all time worked on Sunday and holidays.

The way the game is played...Schedule your vacation for Monday -Friday. Work 12 hrs on Saturday and Sunday and get paid for the week......84 hours pay for working 24.

Work a double shift on a holiday and get 40 hrs pay for that one day, tack 6 days vacation on the week of that holiday and get 80 hours pay for working one day.

Now figure in the fact that they may get 6-8 weeks vacation to play that game with and you can get an extra month or two of pay pretty easy.

33 posted on 05/01/2011 11:20:33 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Semper911
So I can assume you will post the same sentiments on the next teacher-bashing thread?

Yes, absolutely. I hold no grudge against people doing an honest day's work for their agreed-upon compensation.

If however the thread bashes the school boards instead, then more power to the bashers.

34 posted on 05/01/2011 11:36:56 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern, you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Iron Munro

Ahh The next CO union depend is for easier.

Already the CO’s on first watch sleep.

Do they need comfort select mattresses?


35 posted on 05/01/2011 12:19:24 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Race? Obama is only 1/16th Black. He is 1/2 Caucasion, 7/16 Arab. He has an Arab name not African.)
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To: Leaning Right
If however the thread bashes the school boards instead, then more power to the bashers.

Agreed.

36 posted on 05/01/2011 12:52:38 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: unique

Here in Cali it’s not just the prison guards that have sweet deals. Our Fire Chief just retired at 51 with a $100k “increase” in his annual take home due to the pension setup. This guy and his spouse will get $286k per year for starters ( and it is indexed for inflation ) plus lifetime health care. If he lives to 80, and that’s a good bet with his “cadillac healthcare,” he will cost us between $8 & $9 million in pension costs alone! His deputy chief has also just retired with a similar payout at a similar age. Do the math, these benefits are not sustainable. Our worthless first police chief retired 10 years ago. He never made more than $60k, but his pension today is $128,600 (it’s a matter of public record) and this jerk is on the board of the Fire District that doled out the above-mentioned pensions. The whole thing is a disgrace!


37 posted on 05/01/2011 1:26:24 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: paul51
I'm sure you could entice This Crowd for half the pay!
38 posted on 05/01/2011 1:32:29 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Beagle8U
Yes I realize how employees can work the OT pay scale to their advantage.

I work for a company with a very old Union where the some of the workers routinely out earn their supervisors year after year.

But the article says what it says, so not being familiar with California’s prison system or the union agreements there I made some simple calculations.

For all I know each prison could have there own local and own pay scales.

39 posted on 05/01/2011 1:38:44 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: vette6387

Yes, the local firefighters are another group that have it made with pensions, along with CAL Fire.

That’s why if Brown puts a tax increase on the ballet it should be rejected as he hasn’t dealt with the public employee benefits issue or provided for a way for local entities to deal with public pensions, etc.

I suppose in the old days, perhaps public employees were actually considered ‘public servants’, sort of like teachers in the day - low pay, low benefits - working to serve the public as its own reward - well, something happened along the way.

On the other hand, in CA it seems like we are screwed given the political climate.


40 posted on 05/01/2011 1:58:49 PM PDT by unique
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