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Onondaga Nation leaders blast 'Geronimo' codename for Bin Laden
Syracuse NY: The Post-Standard ^ | Tuesday, May 03, 2011, 9:32 PM | Charles McChesney /

Posted on 05/03/2011 8:31:07 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

Leaders of the Onondaga Nation blasted as “reprehensible” the assigning of the world’s most wanted terrorist “Geronimo” as a codename.

Bin Laden was killed during an attack on his compound in Pakistan Sunday. “We’ve ID’d Geronimo,” U.S. forces reported by radio to the White House. Later, word came that “Geronimo” was dead.

“Think of the outcry if they had used any other ethnic group’s hero,” the Onondaga Council of Chiefs said in a release Tuesday. “Geronimo bravely and heroically defended his homeland and his people, eventually surrendering and living out the rest of his days peacefully, if in captivity,” the chiefs noted.

“Geronimo is arguably the most recognized Native American name in the world,” the chiefs said, “and this comparison only serves to perpetuate negative stereotypes about our people.”

Geronimo was an Apache leader who fought Mexican and U.S. forces before surrendering to U.S. authorities in 1886. He died in 1909.

(Excerpt) Read more at syracuse.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: apache; binladen; geronimo; insensitive; nativeamerican; obama; obl; osama; stfu
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1 posted on 05/03/2011 8:31:14 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The Culture of Offended Victimhood is a very diverse population


2 posted on 05/03/2011 8:32:57 PM PDT by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

In recognition of Our Fearless Leader, who planned and executed this operation all by himself, it’s obvious the codename for Obama should have been “ArnoldPalmer” or “Tiger”


3 posted on 05/03/2011 8:34:09 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Tend your casinos, kimo sabe. ;-)


4 posted on 05/03/2011 8:34:19 PM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This handwriting was on the wall in thick paint strokes.


5 posted on 05/03/2011 8:35:01 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Everyone hates 0bama


6 posted on 05/03/2011 8:36:31 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I agree with them. Geronimo was an honorable man.


7 posted on 05/03/2011 8:37:23 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Geronimo was not the code word for Osama, it was the code word to acknowledge that the target had been eliminated.

In WWII it was the code word for jumping out of airplanes.

Somehow American Indians had thicker skin in the 1940's

8 posted on 05/03/2011 8:38:42 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Yea Yea Yea, and Saint Johns is now the Red Storm! enough already!!!


9 posted on 05/03/2011 8:39:24 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“Get over it!”


10 posted on 05/03/2011 8:40:25 PM PDT by LiteKeeper ("Who is John Galt?")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Isn’t a codename supposed to bear no relation to and give no indication of its real meaning? There is no association that is supposed to be made. Getting offended by its use here is akin to being offended by a random two-word key combination on one of those CDs that AOL used to send out.


11 posted on 05/03/2011 8:40:53 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

GET A LIFE!


12 posted on 05/03/2011 8:41:40 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Chief Wah Wah

If you don't like it here then you can go back to Asia where you came from.

13 posted on 05/03/2011 8:44:22 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: Rembrandt

No kidding. I wish someone would just tell them to STFU.

I am so sick of that crap.


14 posted on 05/03/2011 8:44:34 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (How long before the Mall becomes Tahifir Sq?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Well, they could have used Quanah Parker or Sitting Bull, I guess.

I like Geronimo better, sounds manly. I mean some SEAL yelling “Quanah Parker” of “Sitting Bull” is gonna hear it from his mates. He’d sound like that little wiggler Bruno on DWTS.


15 posted on 05/03/2011 8:44:38 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
ROTFLMAO!!!!

I knew this was coming earlier today!

16 posted on 05/03/2011 8:45:06 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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If the Native Americans were so cool, how come we kicked their ass for two hundred years.

And we did kick their ass repeatedly.


17 posted on 05/03/2011 8:47:58 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (How long before the Mall becomes Tahifir Sq?)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Good grief. Nobody was questioning the honor or anything else of Geronimo.
18 posted on 05/03/2011 8:48:14 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
“Think of the outcry if they had used any other ethnic group’s hero,” the Onondaga Council of Chiefs said in a release Tuesday. “Geronimo bravely

Dude, so sorry. We had no idea Geronimo was an Onondaga. . . He wasn't? Then what the #$$%& business is it of yours?

19 posted on 05/03/2011 8:50:32 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Funny that the Apache didn’t speak up on this.

I can just imagine the Onondaga uproar if the operation were named “Tadodaho.”


20 posted on 05/03/2011 8:51:00 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Bunch of sexist chiefs! “Pocahontas” is the best-known Indian name. How many Disney cartoons have been made about Geronimo?


21 posted on 05/03/2011 8:51:12 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Chief Wah Wah

BOO!

22 posted on 05/03/2011 8:51:24 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Geronimo was Apache. Why are the Sioux complaining?


23 posted on 05/03/2011 8:53:43 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.hermancain.com/index.asp)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Ok I’m going to get flamed for this but I agree that it was inappropriate. Would we ever name a enemy we’re going after as George Washington or any other Founding Father? Obviously not, so as far as I can tell the names given aren’t random or all-encompasing. If Apaches are now Americans their past leaders shouldn’t be used either.
And I really dislike a truly admirable leader such as Geronimo compared to a Muslim. To do what Geronimo did was impressive in fighting for his people and land. He was a enemy at one time but didn’t do anything anyone of us wouldn’t do in his situation.


24 posted on 05/03/2011 8:53:58 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: P-Marlowe

ya they even cheered when the movie cowboys shot the indians.


25 posted on 05/03/2011 8:57:13 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: TwoSwords

The code name “ Geronimo” was used to inform Command that the target “ Bin Laden “ was neutralized, as in DEAD!

Not that Bin Laden was “ Geronimo”. Use of the name Geronimo conveyed success for that phase of the operation!


26 posted on 05/03/2011 9:02:13 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: dalebert

Those were the good old days. When Indians wanted to grow up to be Cowboys and when football teams proudly named their Mascots after Brave warriors and savages. Nobody gave a crap about political correctness. We freely made fun of each others’ ancestry and ethnic jokes were considered funny. Now everyone is so sensitive that the only thing were are allowed to joke about is sex, provided you don’t make fun of homos.


27 posted on 05/03/2011 9:04:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: SamuraiScot
Dude, so sorry. We had no idea Geronimo was an Onondaga. . . He wasn't

Iroquois...Apache those injuns are all the same.

Like when those Detroit Hispanics objected to a Star Wars bad guy because the Maori actor playing him "looked Hispanic" (Me I thought his appearance was typical Polynesian, but what would I know?)

28 posted on 05/03/2011 9:05:55 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: TsonicTsunami08

Exactly!


29 posted on 05/03/2011 9:07:20 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: TwoSwords
And I really dislike a truly admirable leader such as Geronimo compared to a Muslim.

He wasn't. "Geronimo" in military tradition is a battlecry for going in fast, hard, without fear.

30 posted on 05/03/2011 9:10:59 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: TwoSwords; Inyo-Mono
> Ok I’m going to get flamed for this but I agree that it was inappropriate.

You won't get flamed by me.

Granted, everybody and their dog gets easily offended these days and most of the time it's crap complaints. But in this case, I will agree that the codename assigned to one of the most evil bassturds of modern time should be something that expresses great disdain and disgust, not the name of an honorable historical figure.

For example, I would have preferred they choose a codename like "Sh!t-For-Brains", or "Butt-Face", or "Bearded A$$hole", or something similarly descriptively accurate.

31 posted on 05/03/2011 9:11:04 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: TsonicTsunami08
> Not that Bin Laden was “ Geronimo”.

Then you need to correct just about every news report, regardless of source or political leaning, of the past two days.

Best of luck with that.

Sorry, in the awareness of virtually every American alive at the moment, "Geronimo" in this operation was the codename for Bin Laden. Whether or not that was the original intention, they have become one and the same.

32 posted on 05/03/2011 9:18:15 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: TsonicTsunami08

Again, why? Comparing the capture of Geronimo to the justly killing of osama seems historicaly stupid. Maybe it’s just that the military looks at any enemy equally. A good trait to have when it’s them or us.


33 posted on 05/03/2011 9:19:14 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Chief Whining Wimp forgot to add that Geronimo was a cross country driver.


34 posted on 05/03/2011 9:20:46 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
> Getting offended by its use here is akin to being offended by a random two-word key combination on one of those CDs that AOL used to send out.

And there were some of those two-word combos that were pretty darn funny, or could be taken with multiple meanings that would raise eyebrows.

35 posted on 05/03/2011 9:23:02 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I remember as a kid using the term Geronimo frequently when playing among other boys. It was taken for granted that it was a term of action and of something difficult being done. This just doesn’t seem to have been used properly. Apaches are Americans for some time now and this is a insult. I’m no PC person at all and I see it.


36 posted on 05/03/2011 9:23:45 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: P-Marlowe

“In WWII it was the code word for jumping out of airplanes.”

I’m told that Apache warriors, when leaping off their horses to engage U. S. Cavalry troopers in certain hand-to-hand combat encounters, would yell “Airborne troop!!”
A dubious tale, I suspect.


37 posted on 05/03/2011 9:24:44 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Must be a boring day on the reservation, though whether the Onondaga or the Liberal reservation is difficult to determine from the article.

What business it might be of the Onondaga, a tribe in NY, is even more difficult to ascertain, as Geronimo was from a tribe in the West.


38 posted on 05/03/2011 9:25:12 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Grunthor; All

I have no problem with the MILITARY using the Name as he was an honorable Warrior, who was called Goyakla/Geronimo.
The using of that name was as an honor to a mission well done!
I picked this FReeper name in his honor .....Goyakla/Geronimo


39 posted on 05/03/2011 9:26:24 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: dayglored

OK


40 posted on 05/03/2011 9:27:00 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
My first thought when I read the name Geronimo, was that somebody was a Conspiracy Theory movie fan....
41 posted on 05/03/2011 9:28:26 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: dayglored

Thanks. I would’ve preferred Operation Hyena. My favorite Nat’l Geographic show was call Lions & Hyeana’s: Eternal Enemies. We being the Lions. Or more appropriately our Armed Forces and intelligience agencies.


42 posted on 05/03/2011 9:28:26 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
My first thought when I read the name Geronimo, was that somebody was a Conspiracy Theory movie fan.... Oh and I forgot to add as more picture evidence gets revealed I will be looking for some red and white smoke stacks as background images.
43 posted on 05/03/2011 9:30:12 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Next time the target will be named Whitey or Soccer Mom. Now, is everyone happy?


44 posted on 05/03/2011 9:30:30 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Perhaps they would have preferred “Joseph Brant”?


45 posted on 05/03/2011 9:30:56 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: P-Marlowe

Consider this post the obligatory Skull and Bones reference.

Bushs’ fault.


46 posted on 05/03/2011 9:31:50 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: dayglored
Sorry, in the awareness of virtually every American alive at the moment, "Geronimo" in this operation was the codename for Bin Laden.

Then every American are oversensitive easily-offended wimps, prone to organising to complain about every dam word.


47 posted on 05/03/2011 9:32:12 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: P-Marlowe

Thanks for clarity and the history lesson.


48 posted on 05/03/2011 9:32:24 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...impeach Obama.)
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To: Grunthor

The Onondaga aren’t Lakota. They’re Iroquois.


49 posted on 05/03/2011 9:33:23 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: GOYAKLA; All

History lesson? Surrender/or?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geronimo


50 posted on 05/03/2011 9:33:29 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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