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Onondaga Nation leaders blast 'Geronimo' codename for Bin Laden
Syracuse NY: The Post-Standard ^ | Tuesday, May 03, 2011, 9:32 PM | Charles McChesney /

Posted on 05/03/2011 8:31:07 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

Leaders of the Onondaga Nation blasted as “reprehensible” the assigning of the world’s most wanted terrorist “Geronimo” as a codename.

Bin Laden was killed during an attack on his compound in Pakistan Sunday. “We’ve ID’d Geronimo,” U.S. forces reported by radio to the White House. Later, word came that “Geronimo” was dead.

“Think of the outcry if they had used any other ethnic group’s hero,” the Onondaga Council of Chiefs said in a release Tuesday. “Geronimo bravely and heroically defended his homeland and his people, eventually surrendering and living out the rest of his days peacefully, if in captivity,” the chiefs noted.

“Geronimo is arguably the most recognized Native American name in the world,” the chiefs said, “and this comparison only serves to perpetuate negative stereotypes about our people.”

Geronimo was an Apache leader who fought Mexican and U.S. forces before surrendering to U.S. authorities in 1886. He died in 1909.

(Excerpt) Read more at syracuse.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: apache; binladen; geronimo; insensitive; nativeamerican; obama; obl; osama; stfu
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Bunch of sexist chiefs! “Pocahontas” is the best-known Indian name. How many Disney cartoons have been made about Geronimo?


21 posted on 05/03/2011 8:51:12 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Chief Wah Wah

BOO!

22 posted on 05/03/2011 8:51:24 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Geronimo was Apache. Why are the Sioux complaining?


23 posted on 05/03/2011 8:53:43 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.hermancain.com/index.asp)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Ok I’m going to get flamed for this but I agree that it was inappropriate. Would we ever name a enemy we’re going after as George Washington or any other Founding Father? Obviously not, so as far as I can tell the names given aren’t random or all-encompasing. If Apaches are now Americans their past leaders shouldn’t be used either.
And I really dislike a truly admirable leader such as Geronimo compared to a Muslim. To do what Geronimo did was impressive in fighting for his people and land. He was a enemy at one time but didn’t do anything anyone of us wouldn’t do in his situation.


24 posted on 05/03/2011 8:53:58 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: P-Marlowe

ya they even cheered when the movie cowboys shot the indians.


25 posted on 05/03/2011 8:57:13 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: TwoSwords

The code name “ Geronimo” was used to inform Command that the target “ Bin Laden “ was neutralized, as in DEAD!

Not that Bin Laden was “ Geronimo”. Use of the name Geronimo conveyed success for that phase of the operation!


26 posted on 05/03/2011 9:02:13 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: dalebert

Those were the good old days. When Indians wanted to grow up to be Cowboys and when football teams proudly named their Mascots after Brave warriors and savages. Nobody gave a crap about political correctness. We freely made fun of each others’ ancestry and ethnic jokes were considered funny. Now everyone is so sensitive that the only thing were are allowed to joke about is sex, provided you don’t make fun of homos.


27 posted on 05/03/2011 9:04:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: SamuraiScot
Dude, so sorry. We had no idea Geronimo was an Onondaga. . . He wasn't

Iroquois...Apache those injuns are all the same.

Like when those Detroit Hispanics objected to a Star Wars bad guy because the Maori actor playing him "looked Hispanic" (Me I thought his appearance was typical Polynesian, but what would I know?)

28 posted on 05/03/2011 9:05:55 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: TsonicTsunami08

Exactly!


29 posted on 05/03/2011 9:07:20 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: TwoSwords
And I really dislike a truly admirable leader such as Geronimo compared to a Muslim.

He wasn't. "Geronimo" in military tradition is a battlecry for going in fast, hard, without fear.

30 posted on 05/03/2011 9:10:59 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: TwoSwords; Inyo-Mono
> Ok I’m going to get flamed for this but I agree that it was inappropriate.

You won't get flamed by me.

Granted, everybody and their dog gets easily offended these days and most of the time it's crap complaints. But in this case, I will agree that the codename assigned to one of the most evil bassturds of modern time should be something that expresses great disdain and disgust, not the name of an honorable historical figure.

For example, I would have preferred they choose a codename like "Sh!t-For-Brains", or "Butt-Face", or "Bearded A$$hole", or something similarly descriptively accurate.

31 posted on 05/03/2011 9:11:04 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: TsonicTsunami08
> Not that Bin Laden was “ Geronimo”.

Then you need to correct just about every news report, regardless of source or political leaning, of the past two days.

Best of luck with that.

Sorry, in the awareness of virtually every American alive at the moment, "Geronimo" in this operation was the codename for Bin Laden. Whether or not that was the original intention, they have become one and the same.

32 posted on 05/03/2011 9:18:15 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: TsonicTsunami08

Again, why? Comparing the capture of Geronimo to the justly killing of osama seems historicaly stupid. Maybe it’s just that the military looks at any enemy equally. A good trait to have when it’s them or us.


33 posted on 05/03/2011 9:19:14 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Chief Whining Wimp forgot to add that Geronimo was a cross country driver.


34 posted on 05/03/2011 9:20:46 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
> Getting offended by its use here is akin to being offended by a random two-word key combination on one of those CDs that AOL used to send out.

And there were some of those two-word combos that were pretty darn funny, or could be taken with multiple meanings that would raise eyebrows.

35 posted on 05/03/2011 9:23:02 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I remember as a kid using the term Geronimo frequently when playing among other boys. It was taken for granted that it was a term of action and of something difficult being done. This just doesn’t seem to have been used properly. Apaches are Americans for some time now and this is a insult. I’m no PC person at all and I see it.


36 posted on 05/03/2011 9:23:45 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: P-Marlowe

“In WWII it was the code word for jumping out of airplanes.”

I’m told that Apache warriors, when leaping off their horses to engage U. S. Cavalry troopers in certain hand-to-hand combat encounters, would yell “Airborne troop!!”
A dubious tale, I suspect.


37 posted on 05/03/2011 9:24:44 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Must be a boring day on the reservation, though whether the Onondaga or the Liberal reservation is difficult to determine from the article.

What business it might be of the Onondaga, a tribe in NY, is even more difficult to ascertain, as Geronimo was from a tribe in the West.


38 posted on 05/03/2011 9:25:12 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Grunthor; All

I have no problem with the MILITARY using the Name as he was an honorable Warrior, who was called Goyakla/Geronimo.
The using of that name was as an honor to a mission well done!
I picked this FReeper name in his honor .....Goyakla/Geronimo


39 posted on 05/03/2011 9:26:24 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: dayglored

OK


40 posted on 05/03/2011 9:27:00 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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