Posted on 05/24/2011 5:44:24 PM PDT by depressed in 06
As a less than frequent flyer, last time 5 years ago, I went through TSA security screening without my belt and shoes, passed thru the magnetometer and full body scan, the screener said that he needed to pat my butt, more like a athlete attaboy. But, then he wanted to swab my palms. Clean. Nothing he did seem unprofessional. Anyone have a similar experience?
I had made some hand loads two days before.
Not the one I would want next to me in a real fight. You strike me as being the first to snitch on your neighbors who don’t “go along” with the minor inconvenience of being jacked up by gestapo.
HUH???? You make absolutely no sense. Amazing how many useful idiots are out there to support the degradation of our liberties.
‘You could just walk into airports free and clear?’
Pretty much. Domestically, anyway.
One could even go to pick up, or accompany their friends and relatives all the way to their gates, without a ticket - imagine that!
Our kids were always excited to greet and then see off GREAT-grandparents and others, this way!
Now we pick up relatives at baggage claim.
Can’t speak for all airports, but will bet no one without a ticket gets to the boarding gates anymore at any larger airport, anyway.
Then - was it the ‘70’s? - changes were afoot because of all the hi-jacking of airplanes. Carry-ons might be opened, coins were put in a dish,and we had to walk thru a magnometer or whatever its called.
But not quite like what we have now.
Every time I fly - which isn’t often - as we’re disrobing and walking around in sock feet, and then dressing back up, I ALways say to those nearby that ‘we have to do this crap because of the dam_ Muslim terrorists.’
Always think I’ll be pulled out of line, but haven’t yet.
Will confess to not flying for a year, but expect I will say the same thing when in line - I have for years.
Betting every once in a while someone else says the same thing!
Last time I flew, a woman right nearby in the TSA line was threatened to perhaps having to let down her professionally done hair style, with the hairpins and all holding it together.
She later said she told them in a pleasant way ‘as long as you have someone ready to style it back professionally!’
She was taken aside, wanded, and the hair pins did not set off anything!
Oh - and since I found them about 2 months after 9-11, I wear a lapel pin daily that says:
“Remember 9-11” with the flag in the middle.
Guess you pretty much conclude I will get in ‘their’ face a bit. : )
You have no argumentation, just random words strewn together.
When you have something to say, get back to me.
In the meantime, enjoy your self-created shackles. The world is my playground. The sprinklers in your front yard is yours.
That is an interesting post. I wish I could remember far enough to when we could see people to the gate. It amazes me when I see movies like American Graffiti or old TV shows when people just walked up to the counter and even bought a last minute ticket.
As long as I can remember there have been metal detectors, but yes, pre-9/11, you didn’t have to show a boarding pass (a stupid requirement that a child of 12 could bypass).
>>Guess you pretty much conclude I will get in ‘their’ face a bit. : )<<
I have bitched and moaned my share of times and still LOUDLY “mutter” “terrorist” every time I see women wearing hijabs or whatever those damn muslims call those slave rags they make their women wear.
I think we need to always make it clear this is an inconvenience, and a stupid one, that PC makes us pay for.
But we also have to put on our big boy/girl pants and accept it while we try to get it fixed instead of whining “nanny nanny boo boo — I won’t fly” just because we perceive a “right” (there is none) has been “violated.”
But it seems we have a lot of people who would rather tether themselves to an invisible and non-existent “right” and stay home rather than let those old meanies at the airport MAYBE let the back of their hands touch one’s elbow.
To each his/her own.
I am planning on going to Ireland in a few months to see my ancestral home. How many here will never ever do so because their invented rights have been trampled?
“I remember those days____’
I hadn’t read the whole thread when I posted - comment 83.
See we have some similar experiences!
I remember when we had seat belts installed in our older Lincoln, as we traveled NY to MD frequently in the ‘60’s, and thought we’d try these new-fangled things!
Then when we had kids, we got some neat harnesses for them and attached them to the seat belts. We could carry the kids like a suitcase, for fun, which they loved!
Yep, the beginning of less freedom, but speeds were now higher on the highways, and we felt better having the kids secure.
"You have no argumentation, just random words strewn together. When you have something to say, get back to me. In the meantime, enjoy your self-created shackles. The world is my playground. The sprinklers in your front yard is yours."
You think that God-given inalienable rights are invented?
Ah. So you have nothing to say.
Do so silently next time, for the benefit of those who want to actually communicate meaningful thoughts.
You are nothing more than a shill for those who would deprive us of our God given rights and freedoms. You know what you are, and I think you are quite aware that you do not really belong on a site like FR.
‘I wish I could remember far enough to when we could see people to the gate.’
I know, I know, - I’m really old - LOL!
I’m betting there weren’t too many people buying their tickets at the airport counter in years past. Think that was ‘in the movies.’ Some, tho.
Travel agents were used a lot ‘in the old days.’
“Mutter ‘terrorist’ whenever I see women wearing hijabs - - “
Whoa! That’s a bit more cheeky than what I do! Whenever these women are in stores the same time as myself, I’m sure to be humming ‘Jesus Lives Me’ as we pass. I figure if she’s a convert, she heard the song in Sunday School. If she’s a ‘born’ muslim, then who knows how my humming affects her!
Not long ago, in my local Ross, there was a mother and child in matching really bizzare get-ups. I was checking out, and looked over and said, ‘holy smokes, we’re in America now!’ Don’t think anyone got it!
Gotta do SOMEthing, I told myself years ago!
Look newbie.
When and if you can show me in the USC that flying is a God given right you may have the very genesis of a point.
As usual, like most liberals, anything you “want” is a “right.” I have the “right” to an college education! I have the “right” to a house! I have the “right” to health care! I have a “right” to fly! I have a “right” to drive!
It is liberals like you who turn your petty whines into self-declared “rights” that have screwed this country up so badly.
And you have the GALL to suggest that a whiny little liberal pubuck fraidy-cat like you deserves to be on this board more that I?
Children should be seen, not heard. In your case the absence of both would serve this board best.
Oh, would that interfere with your free speech “rights?” In your petty liberal mind you probably think that is true.
And you would be wrong.
Again.
Just as you have made not a single argument against any of my points, now you drop all pretense and just go for simple (and shall I say unimaginative) grade-school taunts.
Take your liberal whining self-important claptrap back to DU or KOS or whatever crap-hole that spouted you.
By the way... your tagline support for Cain doesn't ring true.
IOW you can’t really find a “right to fly” so you just yell louder.
That is what passes for “argumentation” in liberal circles. Just have you have not made a single argument against anything I have said, you can’t even directly address the most simple one put to you.
I guess the BILL OF RIGHTS gives you the “right” to a haircut whenever you want! Or the “right” to a really great meal whenever you want one! Or the “right” to a really cool pair of shoes!
You liberals and your invented “rights” — and your constant attempts to somehow bend the BOR and the USC backwards to make them fit your narrow, petty and personal “wants” to somehow magically create “rights.”
You want complete freedom of flying? No problem — go buy your own airplane. Oh, and you will have to leave US airspace since you have to work with the FAA to coordinate your movement! WAIT! That is a violation of your “rights!” OK, no problem, you can always drive. But then you also need to have legal access to a vehicle and a drivers’ licence and ... WAIT! That is a violation of your “rights!”
Well, heck, I guess no matter what you do, the USA itself is a violation of your “right” to move about as you personally wish! What a freaking fascist place this is! All those fascist rules just because they MIGHT lead to mutual safety!
My recommendation is you relocate to a much freer country. Tonight.
And, I also wish you the best of nights. Sweet dreams and may visions of your masters Karl Marx and Fred Engels be with you as you drift off to your socialist dreamland — where all desires are “rights” and provided by Der State.
I just watched the live video from a survivor of the Joplin tornado: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQnvxJZucds
Then I saw the follow-up from the next day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-P4P68YyNM
You know something? We have our priorities all screwed up! I am still reeling my jaw up from the latter one.
We might be able to pick this up another day with less ‘tude.
But after seeing these (and I survived being a few miles from the Northridge Quake, mind you), I felt so small for this petty bickering.
Sometimes we don’t understand what is important until we see what is important.
Good night. Sleep well and safely.
Until the TSA figures out that someone could fly a chartered plane into a building just as easily as they could a regular commercial airliner.
Well, I would think that the right to freely travel via privately-owned means of transportation would be one of those unenumerated rights that are retained by the people (9th amendment). Basically, what that amendment says is that just because the Bill of Rights doesn't specifically mention our right to something doesn't mean we don't have that right. Freely travelling would be included in that.
I remember very clearly. We weren't harrassed at airports pre-911
Actually, the First Amendment applies only to Federal government restrictions. Private groups such as Free Republic are free to to ban all sorts of speech. The Ga Tech Boosters Club is free to ban any speech extolling the virtues of the University of Georgia Bulldogs. And so forth.
This is right and proper.
Free Republic is a place where people may “gather”, albeit electronically, to discuss, in a gentlemanly manner, the issues of the day. At the end of a tiring day I was about to let a poster “get my goat”, so it was time to opt out.
“It is better to keep one’s mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”
or, the version popular in Kenya, “Never argue with a fool. Bystanders may not be able to tell you apart.”
BwanaNdege has a propensity to forget this axiom.
Thanks for the confirmation!
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