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NOTICE: FR DOES NOT AND WILL NOT SUPPORT ABORTIONIST, GAY RIGHTS PUSHING BIG GOVERNMENT STATISTS
vanity | May 26, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/26/2011 8:31:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

NOTICE: FR DOES NOT AND WILL NOT SUPPORT ABORTIONIST, GAY RIGHTS PUSHING BIG GOVERNMENT STATISTS FOR PRESIDENT!!

This message is intended for those posters on FR who seem to have missed my prior statements in this regard and insist on advocating for these bastards.

I'd rather shut the place down than be involved in any effort to install abortionist/gay rights pushing RINOS like Romney or Giuliani into the White House!!

Do NOT push this crap on FR. Take your business elsewhere!! And I don't care how long you've been here!!


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To: Durus

The problem with the libertarian worldview is that they base their morality in the reason of man. Therefore their foundation is based on a subjective and thus, relative, framework. It is not objective and unchanging. The morals they operate by can change when enough people’s views change.

The Christian worldview bases morality in the laws of God who is perfect and right. In something external and objective to man, because the Christian knows man (himself, and others) are not perfect and are sinful and prone to sin and fail and let morals slide into decay over time. Christians worldview are summed up concisely and easily in the 10 Commandments. The standard is the same for everyone. Nobody can say “that is just your personal opinion” because it’s not, it’s God’s perfect standards.


781 posted on 05/27/2011 12:25:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Carling
I do agree that those “Republicans” who allow gays rights via the law based on their bedroom behaviors are not worth supporting.

If you think homosexuals keep their behavior localized to the bedroom -- vs. politicizing everything -- you haven't kept in touch with the recent Connecticut controversy re: cross-gender use of bathrooms...not the first time that has come up.

Nor have you been aware of homosexuals expressing their sexuality in every public venue possible.

782 posted on 05/27/2011 12:27:41 PM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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To: Jim Robinson

All righty then if they get nominated I’m voting for Zero the anti abortion socialist candidate!!!!!!


783 posted on 05/27/2011 12:28:31 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Jim Robinson

Principles, JR’s got ‘em whereas others don’t.

Thanks Jim.

SZ


784 posted on 05/27/2011 12:29:21 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Carling
Let people do what they do in their home, just don’t push it on us through laws and politics, and let God sort it out in the end.

It's that kind of open-ended licensiousness that invites abuse, incest, etc.

785 posted on 05/27/2011 12:31:19 PM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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To: tallyhoe

Huh?


786 posted on 05/27/2011 12:31:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

The only problem with a third party candidate is the Dem usually gets elected! We need to clean out the republican party period. We only got 80 house members and two Senators elected last election. We need 60 more house seats and 10 to 15 Senate seats!!!


787 posted on 05/27/2011 12:32:25 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: GSWarrior

HUH they can leave their money and everything else as there is no law to stop them .

Civil unions is a crock of crap, normal couples cannot have them so where is the equal rights there.

Visitation , well they can have that as they can put down next of kin.

civil unions was set up to prepare us for queer marriage, look at NH and how they used it.


788 posted on 05/27/2011 12:33:07 PM PDT by manc (Hannity is a fraud , he admitted he's socially liberal on his show, he's took us for suckers)
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To: Jim Robinson

Just joshin Jim have a great memorial day weekend!!!


789 posted on 05/27/2011 12:34:05 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: little jeremiah
Are you copying silliness from libertarian websites or what?

LOL. Obviously it's not your strong suit, but maybe you want to brush up a little on American History.

BTW the constitution doesn’t forbid a State to have a state religion if it wants to.

Maybe you want to read "Everson v. Board of Education".

The rest of your post is too juvenile to respond to.

790 posted on 05/27/2011 12:34:35 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Jim Robinson; tallyhoe

I believe that tallyhoe is prepared to vote for anyone as long as they have an “R” after their name.


791 posted on 05/27/2011 12:34:49 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

nail on head, civil unions was set up to get us ready for their marriage

homosexuals can have everything we have as a couple, visitation, power of attorney , leaving money house etc etc etc.


792 posted on 05/27/2011 12:35:04 PM PDT by manc (Hannity is a fraud , he admitted he's socially liberal on his show, he's took us for suckers)
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To: tallyhoe

I am not under the assumption any Republican is better than Zero.

We will be being told by everyone we can’t criticize them because “he’s one of us and we don’t do that to our own.” I heard that way too much from McCainiacs last time around. I heard that plenty when I was criticizing the things Bush was doing I didn’t like and thought were wrong.

If we can’t be critical of them, we have no voice. We have no way to make him change his mind from doing something potentially as bad as any liberal could do. Romneycare? It’s Obamacare at the state level. Kennedy was standing behind Mitt with a big sh1t-eating grin while he signed it into law.

The bottom line is Republicans have a lot of older leadeship folks that have no interest in things changing in this country. They get to play conservative when they run but have no intentions of governing that way because they know the system is set up so that they can always blame something NOT to try to do something or change things.

Both sides are run by people like this. They are the McCains. The guys that think it’s their turn just because they’ve been there the longest. They don’t take huge political risks, they sound tough on talk shows or during election time, but they never wind up governing that way. They really don’t want things to change a lot. They don’t want to shrink government. They don’t want to make everyone’s life simpler by passing a flat tax and paring down the IRS greatly. They may say that kind of crap on the campaign trail but it never gets done.

What gets done is compromise deals and “bipartisanship” bullcrap.


793 posted on 05/27/2011 12:36:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Prokopton; little jeremiah
The rest of your post is too juvenile to respond to.

This from the guy who thinks morality equates to sharia law.

794 posted on 05/27/2011 12:37:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: little jeremiah

The men who wrote the constitution did so to define the responsibilities, powers and limits of government. Those men also went home and to a large part helped write their state constitutions which did the same thing on a state level. If a state has the enumerated power to regulate X then that is perfectly legal and no thinking person would have any problem with that. However both Federal and State government that do not have the power to ban X, yet banned X regardless. Government usurpation of powers is immoral to the point of treasonous and dangerous to the people of our nation.


795 posted on 05/27/2011 12:39:15 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Scozzafava? I think he would have voted for her. She also was the one that had RNC support. She also ran as an independent and split the vote so the democrat could win.

The “R” can also mean “Rino”. By this thinking we should all go out and campaign for Snowe, Collins, and the other liberal republicans. Because they have to be better than a democrat because they have an “R” behind their name.


796 posted on 05/27/2011 12:39:59 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
This from the guy who thinks morality equates to sharia law.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it? Or mabe it's your inability to follow a logical thought longer than six words.

No matter.

797 posted on 05/27/2011 12:40:07 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: metmom

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798 posted on 05/27/2011 12:40:41 PM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: Prokopton; little jeremiah
LJ:BTW the constitution doesn’t forbid a State to have a state religion if it wants to.

Prokopton: Maybe you want to read "Everson v. Board of Education".

Uh, Everson v. Board of Education is the Constitution???

799 posted on 05/27/2011 12:42:35 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: tallyhoe

The only ways to stop ObamaCare is to vote in a GOP president or get a supermajority in the Senate.

The former is much easier than the latter, and wasting votes on a third party candidate is some RINO wins the nomination means more Obama, and ObamaCare for all.

I guess that will be our legacy as a community.


800 posted on 05/27/2011 12:43:11 PM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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