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At Picnic for Black Mormons, No Sign of Church’s Biased Past (NY Times Mormon Hate on Cue)
NY Times ^ | 6/11/11 | Mark Oppenheimer

Posted on 06/11/2011 6:41:16 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus

COTTONWOOD HEIGHTS, Utah — On Christmas Day in 1964, the day before Darius A. Gray was to be baptized as a Mormon, he learned that the church would not allow a black man, like him, to be in the priesthood.

“I was not amused,” Mr. Gray recalled with a rueful smile.

It was last Saturday, and we were sitting with about 300 other Mormons, including dozens of children, at the annual picnic of the Genesis Group, a social organization for black Mormons and their friends. Some were Latino or American Indian, and nearly half were white, the parents and siblings of adopted black children. It was the most racially integrated church event I had ever attended.

Having been introduced to Mormonism by kindly white neighbors in his hometown of Colorado Springs, the teenage Darius read his way through much of the scripture of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He had no idea about the racist church policy. His newfound faith was badly shaken.

“I went home and prayed,” Mr. Gray said. “And I received a personal revelation, an inspiration from God: ‘This is the restored Gospel, and you are to join.’ So the next day, I entered into the waters of baptism. Then the next day I went to church as a member for the first time.” And a little girl addressed him using a certain racial epithet. That was a first, too.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: blacks; inman; mormon
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To: Titus-Maximus

013: Blacks and the Priesthood w/ Darius Gray and Margaret Young Audio
http://www.staylds.com/?tag=race


61 posted on 06/11/2011 9:06:31 PM PDT by restornu (I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Titus-Maximus; Little Bill

A must watch video even a must have in ones library.

American History in Black & White - David Barton (Part 1)
Understanding is that the constitution is an anti- slavery document once one understands the 3/5 clause which is explain on this video also about 10 mins. into the talk tell how around 1820 the Democratic party turn racists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REl-99K-8tk

American History in Black & White (2_12).mp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8LKQXodEkQ&NR=1

Now was it not the mainstream who had to support this or it would not have been continues to be voted in an acceptanced.


62 posted on 06/11/2011 9:45:43 PM PDT by restornu (I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: Colofornian
He's a guy who wears pink panties.

That's all you need to know.

63 posted on 06/11/2011 9:50:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Titus-Maximus; Little Bill

KKK Democrats Lynching Killing Black & White ‘Radical Republicans’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bEOiDjdhF4&NR=1


64 posted on 06/11/2011 9:51:36 PM PDT by restornu (I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: Vendome

Laminite is racist in any language.

***

How so it is a name of a tribe see how much you know!


65 posted on 06/11/2011 10:04:39 PM PDT by restornu (I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: restornu

Hey! How you been?

So a Mormon friend upon meeting someone from Tonga said they were a Lamanite. I had no idea what that meant but looked it up and thought “Well, that’s offensive”.

You don’t find it offensive dark skinned people, with flat noses have been marked?

Why are people of those characteristics marked with the attributes of Cain who, by the way, killed Abel?

Does God really put people into groups in that manner?

Should we?

If so, then are they now lesser people by the mark?


66 posted on 06/11/2011 10:56:30 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Hatred above all else.

HMMMmmm...

You might be able to convince the jury of your findings.

Why don't you show them the evidence for your conclusions?

67 posted on 06/12/2011 4:14:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: magritte

Yer dog is whining to go out.


68 posted on 06/12/2011 4:14:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
The PINK ones are in the wash - will THESE do for now?


69 posted on 06/12/2011 4:18:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: restornu; SZonian; SENTINEL; Colofornian
“Why people leave the LDS church”

Any of you EXers wanna field THIS one?

70 posted on 06/12/2011 4:21:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; restornu
That's all you need to know.

Sigh...

No PICTURES?

Well it better than discussing ones "south of the border" and emailing photos!

71 posted on 06/12/2011 4:25:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: restornu
How so it is a name of a * tribe see how much you know!

You forgot to type FICTIOUS.

72 posted on 06/12/2011 4:26:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Vendome
If so, then are they now lesser people by the mark?

We know 'lesser' people by their LOGIC challenged characteristics.


To wit:

"If the CURSE has now been removed; why are there still folks with BLACK skin being born?"


Throughout the Book of Mormon narrative, several groups of Lamanites did repent and lose the curse. The Anti-Nephi-Lehies or Ammonites "open[ed] a correspondence with them [Nephites], and the curse of God did no more follow them" (Alma 23:18). There is no reference to their skin color being changed.
 
Later, the Book of Mormon records that an additional group of Lamanites converted and that "their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites… and they were numbered among the Nephites, and were called Nephites" (3 Nephi 2:15-16).
 
From –> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement

73 posted on 06/12/2011 4:42:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Vendome

Bloney belived what you want and continue to a tale bearer
Lamanite aka Laman is the tribe name like Nephite who is Laman brother Nephi their father is Lehi.

An account of Lehi and his wife Sariah, and his four sons, being called, (beginning at the eldest) Laman, Lemuel, Sam, and Nephi.

you know so much of Mormons yet it seems you never even read The Book of Mormon maybe just enough to be derogatory!


74 posted on 06/12/2011 4:59:24 AM PDT by restornu (I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: Vendome

Tonga

Updated on 02 April 2011
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Click here for the Church’s Tonga Newsroom site

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has had an official presence in Tonga for well over a century. In 1891, King Siaosi (George) Tupou was visited by the first Latter-day Saint missionaries to arrive on the shores of Tonga and gave them permission to preach. Property was purchased, a mission home and school were built and a boat was secured for travel between islands. Through the years the Church in Tonga slowly began to grow.

During World War II many Mormon servicemen were stationed near Tonga and attended the local worship services. After the war the Church experienced dramatic growth as many local members were called as missionaries.

The progress of the Church on the islands has been assisted through the establishment of schools. A school in Nieafu was opened by the Church in 1907, and another, the Makeke School, was opened in 1924. A new educational complex, the Liahona High School, was established in 1952; it has become one of the largest and most successful educational institutions in Tonga.

Members of the Church in Tonga value their association with people of other faiths and desire to be contributing members of their local communities. The Church has always recognized the importance of culture to the people of the Pacific Islands.

In August 1983 the Nuku’alofa temple was dedicated, a long-awaited and joyful event for Mormons in Tonga and the surrounding islands. The remodeled temple will continue to be a spiritual focal point for members of the Church in this Pacific region.

Tonga has the largest number of Mormons per capita of any nation in the world. The Nuku’alofa Tonga Temple will serve approximately 41,000 Church members throughout Tonga and the Line Islands of the Pacific Ocean.

For Journalist Use Only

Richard Hunter
Sydney,
Australia


75 posted on 06/12/2011 5:00:55 AM PDT by restornu (I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: Vendome

Elder Aisea Maafu’s LDS mission call
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d580uY9hfok


76 posted on 06/12/2011 5:05:57 AM PDT by restornu (I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: Elsie
Shouldn't you be spewing venom at the latest target of your hatred?

Oh yeah, you are.

77 posted on 06/12/2011 8:48:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: restornu

No kidding!?

That was very interesting. I would have never thought Tonga had a LDS missionary presence going back more than 100 years.

I know that at one time they were largely Methodist and I understand they are now largely LDS.

Thanks for the history.

I learn something everyday.

Have a good day.

I am taking care of my friend, today, who will be 101 in two weeks.


78 posted on 06/12/2011 9:20:54 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: restornu

I’m not being a tale bearer. I’m telling you what that person and several others have said.

She smiled and told me Tongans were Lamanites, as were the American Indian, South American Indians and blacks.

And Yes, I did read the BoM. It is actually an interesting read but, of course, we have been hashing out the BoM for a few years here.

When I looked up Laminite I did find it offensive in the context that their physical features were the mark of Cain.

How that is not offensive to anyone I don’t know.

It objectifies people based on their skin color as ones who are less than others.

Heck, for a quick explanation and definition I just went to Wikipedia.

They say pretty much the same thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamanite

Besides, Polynesians look nothing like American and South American Indians.


79 posted on 06/12/2011 9:30:41 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Elsie

Dangit!

Why do you use such logic? /s

Great question!

If the curse has been removed....

I am going to use that one.

Devastating.


80 posted on 06/12/2011 9:31:59 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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