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Issa: Holder 'Absolutely' Knew About 'Fast & Furious' Earlier Than He Testified
nation.foxnews.com/CNSNews ^ | Fred Lucas

Posted on 06/20/2011 7:37:47 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

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To: detective

That’s the hard part: unlike pretty much all other historical US fedgov scandals, this one ranks very high on the federal crime scale. This isn’t another embarrassment or paperwork or procedure crime, and it’s not petty intrusion or some such. Someone very powerful is facing very serious jail time - and as such, they’re going to play hard and dirty to stay out of PMITA prison.

Issa better have a good insurance policy, and I don’t mean Allstate.


21 posted on 06/20/2011 8:12:14 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Mouton

Maybe they can get Ken Starr. He sure took down that Clinton Crime Cartel.

Nothing more will come of this than throwing the ATF director under the bus. Have we not learned anything from the 1990s?

This would be almost funny if it were some other pukehole bannana republic, but that is just what the once great US has become.


22 posted on 06/20/2011 8:14:32 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe ( "Failure to speak out against evil is evil itself" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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To: Dengar01

The GOP only got the nads to do this after Obama made way too many controversial holiday recess appointments. 2 he made this past Dec. while in Hawaii to make sure any further investigation of NBPGate would’nt get any light of day. I read the testimony online at the Civil Rights Committee web page and it was much more than a black guy standing at a voting place.

So maybe they will not give the votes for a new commiecrat AG at DOJ and they will make sure Obama won’t sneak him/her in; as they just did Obama’s last holiday.


23 posted on 06/20/2011 8:31:50 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

There is no way in hell that Holder would have agreed with the operation without Obama being in the loop.

Proving that would be very difficult, maybe impossible.

I wonder how long it will be before it’s alleged that Issa uttered the word nigger back in grade school......


24 posted on 06/20/2011 8:37:18 AM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
"Yeah they may give him immunity if he tells THE TRUTH of details on how he was ordered this by the POTUS."

Negative on immunity.

Holder is to tell the truth in exchange for not allowing him to be extradited to Mexico for facilitating capital crimes against Mexico by arming the drug cartels.

The Extradition Treaty with Mexico works both ways.

25 posted on 06/20/2011 8:42:08 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: Mouton

Any idea who has the authority to appoint a special prosecutor in this situation?


26 posted on 06/20/2011 8:57:12 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Holder belongs in prison. Remember all the noise the RATS made about Republical Attorneys General being “corrupt”?? Where are they now that the AG is clearly complicit in a criminal conspiracy in which US citizens were killed?


27 posted on 06/20/2011 9:02:47 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHkaRU9EoVM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NqH88cSBqI

Save this video before it disappears

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7360542n


28 posted on 06/20/2011 9:12:15 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Deaf Smith

It is a lovely dream that Holder is placed into one of the Mexican prisons. Won’t happen, but fun to think about.


29 posted on 06/20/2011 9:20:03 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Deaf Smith

Oh, very good observation.


30 posted on 06/20/2011 9:21:12 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Hey Dubya, I don’t see a video at your last link. Only a title that reads:

‘Obama on “gunwalking” - “Serious mistakes” may have been made’


31 posted on 06/20/2011 9:22:36 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: .45 Long Colt

I believe the judiciary committee can request the solicitor general to appoint one...that is what happened when the dummos went after Gonzalez.


32 posted on 06/20/2011 9:25:13 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: HollyB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AROf30JpY-8

http://www.imdb.com/video/cbs/vi2492308761/

http://www.liveleak.com/view?comments=1&i=dc8_1300899295&jwp_version=4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh37v_NkmM4


33 posted on 06/20/2011 9:31:50 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Mouton

Thank you! I would love to know what they are waiting for. It seems clear the goal of Justice has been to slow Issa down and drag it out. They have no intention of assisting him because they know what will happen once the truth comes to light.


34 posted on 06/20/2011 9:46:04 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: detective

Remember Scooter!


35 posted on 06/20/2011 9:53:18 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: .45 Long Colt
Fresh news on Holder. NOT ONE WORD about Operation F&F

Holder: Justice Department Has Re-Opened The "Civil Rights Division"

Holder vows to keep fighting for terror trials in civilian courts MILITARY TRIBUNALS June 17, 2011

36 posted on 06/20/2011 9:54:42 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

What was done in Gunwalker was contrary to how ATF operates on every level. The agents themselves were worried and complaining and testified how out of the norm it was.

No agency head would dare change policy like this without going through the Attorney generals office. And no Assistant Attorney general woudl make the career mistake of authorizing it without going straight to the top.

Holder would not have made such a decision of allowing guns to walk to Mexico a foreign nation without approval from Obama since this was a matter of national security and international interest.

I imagine that DHS is also well in the loop on this since they ordered the boarder patrol to stand down on detaining illegals at the boarder. Napolitano, Holder, Melson and Obama ALL had to be in the loop and Issa needs to continue his investigation until EVERYONE who knew and did nothing to stop this, aided or ordered it to be carried out is in jail.

Brian terry’s family deserves nothing less. Not to mention the 60-80 Mexican officers killed, and the dozens if not hundreds of Mexican citizens that were killed or injured because of this. Let us not forget that many of the guns did not walk across the boarder, but will be used right here in the United States against American citizens by drug cartels.

This was an act of treason, they aided Narco terrorists, who are also working with Al-qaeda.

TREASON.

Mr. Issa deserves a lot of credit and we need to make sure that he can continue his job. It needs support in media, the population and the voting booth.


37 posted on 06/20/2011 10:03:18 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Lazamataz

Issa is from CA where they routinely re-district Republican Congressmen out of their Districts. I hope that Issa is not vulnerable to Brown’s machinations.


38 posted on 06/20/2011 10:14:41 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Munz

There isn’t a Post in this thread that I don’t agree with.

This goes right to the White House.


39 posted on 06/20/2011 10:17:17 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: mad_as_he$$
So what are you going to do about it Issa?

Realistically, what can he do?

This "administration" of third world THUGS ignores all court rulings it doesn't like, think they give a damn about House committees?

I personally believe they are shifting money around (illegally) to fund stuff for which funding was stopped.

Congress legislates against the EPA? No problem, ignore it and issue executive orders.

Repeat after me:
This an illegitimate government. The law will do us no good.

Anyone here remember Pravda in the late 60s, early 70s? Remind you of the NYT and the WoPo? The press in this country is only good for nailing Republicans and "enemies of the state".

40 posted on 06/20/2011 10:18:27 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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