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Inequality between rich and poor in US worse than Cameroon, Yemen
DailyIndia.com ^ | June 2011 | Asian News International

Posted on 06/21/2011 4:23:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

The gap between America's rich and poor is reportedly at an extreme high, much higher than many developing countries like Cameroon, the Ivory Coast, and even Yemen.

According to the Central Investigative Agency's (CIA) World Fact Book, which ranks countries in terms of how 'equally' wealth is distributed, the U.S. is the 42nd most unequal country in the world, the Daily Mail reports.

It has been ranked way behind the European Union and the United Kingdom in terms of equality of pay. In fact, the situation is so extreme that it has even been placed behind countries such as Cameroon, the Ivory Coast, Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen.

It is reportedly just ahead of Uganda and Jamaica.

Although income disparity in the U.S. has been growing for decades, the latest figures show that it has now reached levels not seen since the Great Depression.

Ten percent of the total personal income in America was taken home by the top 0.1 percent of earners in 2008, the latest year for which figures are available.

Research suggests the reason for this extraordinary disparity is a huge rise in pay for company executives.

'Basically, executives represent a much bigger share of the top incomes than a lot of people had thought. Before, we just didn't know who these people were," economist Jon Bakija, a professor at Williams College who with his co-authors is continuing the research, said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: cameroon; egypt; europeanunion; gini; india; ivorycoast; jamaica; tunisia; uganda; unitedkingdom; yemen
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To: wita

I’m sure that there is something fraudulent about the claim. But, in any event, liberty and inequality are inseparable, and a society without economic inequality is immoral. Someone should mention to the Indians, by the way, that we have the world’s fattest “poor” people.


21 posted on 06/21/2011 5:19:15 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: cc2k; All
OK. I'll answer my own questions here. The source for this is Country Comparison :: Distribution of family income - Gini index (from the C(nn?)IA World Fact Book.

The chart is "upside down" if you will, with the worst countries at the top. On the version on the CIA website (not sure if it's newer or older than the one referenced in the article, the United States is 39th from worst. The bottom of the list, the "best" in the article author's opinion, is Sweden. Working up from the bottom, you find Hungray, Norway, Serbia, ...

The United States is 39th, Greece is 96th, Italy and Spain are 102nd and 103rd.

22 posted on 06/21/2011 5:19:45 AM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: caver; SunkenCiv; cunning_fish

this comes from an indian website, not the indian govt. They have vast inequalities too, measured on the Gini coefficient, however, the article doesn’t talk about the % of poverty but the gap between the rich and the poor. in india, most everyone is poor, so there is little gap :-P


23 posted on 06/21/2011 5:20:53 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: achilles2000
Someone should mention to the Indians, by the way, that we have the world’s fattest “poor” people.

It should also be mentioned that the United States gubmint has spent trillions of tax dollars on the so-called "war on poverty" in the past 40 odd years with the result being a higher rate of poverty now than when the "war" was started.....

24 posted on 06/21/2011 5:25:45 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I wonder if the poor in Cameroon have cell phones.


25 posted on 06/21/2011 5:26:14 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Cronos

Well, there are super rich in India as well. But the vast majority are dirt poor. It makes a gap, isn’t it?


26 posted on 06/21/2011 5:27:39 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Cronos

Understood. The irony of an Indian talking about the wealth gap is astounding. There are plenty of well off Indians.


27 posted on 06/21/2011 5:33:33 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Cronos

Understood. The irony of an Indian talking about the wealth gap is astounding. There are plenty of well off Indians.


28 posted on 06/21/2011 5:33:43 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: cunning_fish
True - I think they have 2 billionaires in the top 10. however, the overall gap is not that high.

In the US I don't know why the gap is high, quite frankly, but in China it's pretty apparent why.

In the US I guess the gap is high due to people earning well, not robbing the poor blind like the robber barons of the 1800s (JP Morgan etc.) or of present-day China.

But, that said, it's not a good trend especially when the super-rich wall off their communities (and don't get me wrong, I lived like that recently) -- and that's a recent phenomenon. Prior to this, the rich would meet the poor somewhere, but if there is NO interaction except as server and served, then that leads to a lot of mistrust and antagonism

I think removal of the draft had an effect -- if the rich and poor served together as 18 year olds, when they turned 40, Mr. Moneybags would still remember that his chauffeur was his friend and the chauffeur would remember that -- lower social tension

AGain -- I'm not an economist, so these are just my thoughts and they could very well be wrong.

29 posted on 06/21/2011 5:36:25 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: caver
well, not "plenty", percentage wise. Quite a few. And, of course, I can imagine the indian reporter saying "gorblimey, no one wants to read another article about the wealth gap in india, that won't sell, let's say "oh, look -- even the great USA has problems"" --> the US counts -- everyone compares themselves to us and even compare their problems to ours.
30 posted on 06/21/2011 5:38:30 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I believe that a truly free and open market results in the greatest equality. The problem is, we have been turning into an increasingly crony capitalist system as the government expands.

Fewer are becoming wealthy by working hard, being good people and following the rules(which are often written to work against competition). Instead it often happens by ‘knowing’ the right people that can help:

get “creative” with taxes
cherrypick permits while denying competition
get uncompetitive access to taxpayer funds
put pressure on competition
write favorable laws
find lawyers that ‘know’ judges
skirt patent law knowing a small inventor has no means to defend
seize private property at taxpayer expense
imprison people you don't like for easily generated crimes
allow labor export to slave states
Etc (these are just a few off the top of my head)

Every new wealthy person I know has taken advantage of this crony system at some level. They tell me generally the same thing “in today's business, there ain't no such thing as honest business”. I tell them I like to sleep at night and I will be judged someday.

I'm back home in the USSR and it makes me sick every day.

31 posted on 06/21/2011 5:42:57 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: SunkenCiv

Exactly so!


32 posted on 06/21/2011 5:51:05 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Thermalseeker

>>>>>>>Someone should mention to the Indians, by the way, that we have the world’s fattest “poor” people.
It should also be mentioned that the United States gubmint has spent trillions of tax dollars on the so-called “war on poverty” in the past 40 odd years with the result being a higher rate of poverty now than when the “war” was started.....
>>>>>>>
I find the term “war on poverty” ridiculous. How can you fight something which is not exists naturally (poverty means absence or lack of wealh actually).
No surprise why de-facto this war makes more poverty because it’s aimed to strip one of money to give it to another who already managed to lose his own and know how to do it one more time.
Not to mention if being a poor is turning to be a nice career choice this way reducing producing population.

So you can see at least three effects corrupting productivity in just one nice sounding “war on poverty”.


33 posted on 06/21/2011 5:56:33 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: SunkenCiv
Our poor live rent free, have cars, large screen color TVs, AC and heat, and food stamps. Not bad.

WHY they don't want a job!

34 posted on 06/21/2011 6:00:25 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

If you already “live rent free, have cars, large screen color TVs, AC and heat, and food stamps” WHY do you have to want a job?:)


35 posted on 06/21/2011 6:04:36 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cc2k
When did the CIA start worrying about "wealth distribution?"

When did they become the Central Investigative Agency?

36 posted on 06/21/2011 6:06:46 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: SunkenCiv

There is no such thing a rich human detritus, therefore the inequality in Yemen and Cameroon.


37 posted on 06/21/2011 6:07:53 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: cunning_fish

Exactly!


38 posted on 06/21/2011 6:08:33 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes, boys and girls, the solution to Economic Inequality is Universal Poverty. While we’re looking at disparities, you might want to check out the disparity between what it’s like to be poor in the U.S. in 2011 and what it’s like to be poor in Yemen.

Stupid.


39 posted on 06/21/2011 6:11:39 AM PDT by Humble Servant
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To: Cronos
In the US I guess the gap is high due to people earning well, not robbing the poor blind like the robber barons of the 1800s (JP Morgan etc.) or of present-day China.

Rather than robbing the poor, JP Morgan saved the economy of the US on 2 different occasions.

40 posted on 06/21/2011 6:18:21 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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