Gov. Perry and The Texas Dream Act

http://blog.chron.com/texassparkle/2011/06/gov-perry-and-the-texas-dream-act/ ^ | June 22, 2011 | Kathleen McKinley

[Cincinatus' Wife]

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It’s important to point out that there is a huge difference in the Texas Dream Act and the The Dream Act that was pushed in Congress and failed. The Dream Act in Congress was full of all kinds of goodies other than allowing children of illegals to receive in state tuition. The Texas Dream Act was focused only on that. I happen to agree with The Texas Dream Act, and so did everyone in the Senate in Texas. It passed with ZERO “no” votes. Add to that, it has been proven to be successful.

These are a few things you need to know about the Texas Dream Act. The child has to have lived in Texas the three years leading up to high school graduation. These students are given no special treatment in getting into Texas colleges and universities. They must get in on their own merit. They are paying the tuition (with or without financial aid). It’s estimated that these students make up about 1% of those entering college.

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Most of us agree that border control MUST be dealt with first. The problem with all other efforts on this issue in the past is that the borders were not sealed. If there is anyone who we can trust to do that it is Gov. Perry (if he decides to run for President). He knows what goes on down at the border. He has gone there many times. He knows what needs to be done. There is no doubt in my mind that if he were President, he would seal our borders. But Perry also understands Hispanic outreach.

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[Liz]

THE LUCRATIVE PHONY ID BUSINESS---TEXAS STYLE ----NORTH BERGEN, NJ -- July 21, 2006 -- Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, L/E said. The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker.

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution from savage drug cartels operating in the US.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. L/E approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately. The Texas brothers consented to a search.

Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 fake Social Security cards. ####

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CALI STYLE PHONY ID BUSINESS--- Hayward, California woman charged in mass thefts of IDs
Henry K. Lee / Copyright San Francisco Chronicle. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Oakland Police Dept Mug Shot: Mishel Caviness, Hayward, accused of
running a large-scale operation devoted to stealing people's identities.

HAYWARD, CALIFORNIA -- A Hayward woman has been charged with numerous felony counts for allegedly running an identity-theft operation that created fake Social Security and California identification cards, checks and credit cards. Mishel Caviness, 40, was arrested after an investigation by Oakland police and the U.S. Secret Service.

The probe began when an Oakland city employee reported in January that someone was fraudulently cashing her checks, according to police Officer Ryan Goodfellow and court records. Caviness was identified with the help of surveillance-camera footage from Bay Area stores, police said.

A search of her apartment on the 21000 block of Foothill Boulevard in Hayward last week uncovered a printing operation capable of making fake checks and credit cards, police said. Also found were 900 blank credit cards, personal information belonging to as many as 1,000 people, blank checks and computers, police said.

Alameda County prosecutors charged Caviness with forgery, identity theft, forgery of a driver's license and grand theft. She has a previous conviction for welfare fraud and told police that she is disabled and unemployed. She is being held at Santa Rita Jail in Dublin in lieu of $325,000 bail.

SOURCE http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/16/BAPP1JGPTT.DTL#ixzz1MotxGM5R Page C - 3 of the San Francisco Chronicle

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Nothing good has come from this plague of lawbreakers violating our borders. Karl Rove was WRONG----they came from hellholes whining about a "better life".....but that was a ruse. They DID NOT embrace democracy once they had a taste of it as Rove famously said. On the contrary, they are a national security threat-----and are conspiring to tear down democracy---and their home countries are helping them. Read on:

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News reports say Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Peru are conspiring to collude with The Anti-Defamation League, The American Civil Liberties Union, the Southern Poverty Law Center and several other civil and immigrant rights groups to infringe on US sovereignty to make laws as we see fit. The co-conspirators filed a federal class-action lawsuit against Georgia's law and are now asking a judge to halt the measure pending the outcome of their case.

[fwdude]

I am more and more excited about this guy getting into the race!

Why? Because he wants to reward criminal invaders by allowing their children to pretend to be citizens?

[Scythian]

I say “Identity Theft” should get the death penalty.

[Liz]

Check this out:

http://www.dreamactivist.org/blog/2009/09/24/media-coverage-dream-act-day-action/

[Cincinatus' Wife]

How is this a link to that PHOTO you posted in Post #16 that you titled a TX Dream Act Protest — with people carrying a sign “Capitalism isn’t working?”

Re: what you did post — It looks like the NJ and CA cops did a good job. What was your point in adding it to this thread?

[SumProVita]

Can’t you construct something a little more solid than straw men?

[Liz]

Amen.

[Little Ray]

I stand by my original statement.
I don’t care if they were “raised here.” The are STILL Illegal Aliens. Send them home. And pitch them out of US Schools.

[fwdude]

Tell me what’s false in what I said.

[SumProVita]

Reread your own wording and you should be able to figure it out.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

I have posted several articles about the NATIONAL Dream act and how the LIBERALS are radicalizing young Hispanics to their cause (using it to rally them to their base) — I’ve posted pictures of these groups gathering in major cities around the country — one with a smart-ass dumb girl giving the camera the bird. And I’ve posted audio and video of radical groups taking over Tucson School Board meetings. I know about this. I lived all over AZ for 20 and TX for over 20 years.

So WAKE UP and read this article about the TX DREAM ACT.

Pull your head out of the sand. Hispanics are natural conservatives but the Left is radicalizing them — and since they will have a huge voting block in the very near future, I want them voting against Obama and for conservatives like Gov Rick Perry.

[JustAnotherOne]

The disinformation is rampant.
Leadership shows.

[RightOnTheBorder]

El Paso county foots a several million dollar bill every year for “true emergency care” of Mexicans in the county hospital. For some reason the border patrol/customs lets them cross the bridge from Juarez to recieve free medical treatment in the U.S. when they have been shot/stabbed/injured in a drug related incident. Oh yeah, and then the city has to foot another bill for the extra police needed to protect the hospital when some high profile target is being treated.

Frankly I am just as tired of paying for the emergency care as I am for the other freebies.

[Brookhaven]

They are paying the tuition (with or without financial aid). It’s estimated that these students make up about 1% of those entering college.

Is this in-state tuition rates, or out-of-state tuition rates?

Students that only pay in-state tuition are being heavily subsidized by the rest of the state's taxpayers, as as the in-state tuition rate doesn't come anywhere near covering the total cost of tuition.

Also, is this fair to foreign students that want to come to the USA to study? Don't illegal immigrants take some of the seats that would have gone to foreign students that are playing by the rules? What lesson are we teaching by this? That if you are a foriegn student and want to get into a Texas college, instead of playing by the rules you should simply enter the USA illegally, wait three years, then apply for college.

This seems to be another case of "what part of illegal do people not understand?"

[fwdude]

I’m fully aware of the wording in my post. You made the allegation of a “straw man,” so the burden is on YOU to show me where my statement was false. But I won’t hold my breath.

[HiTech RedNeck]

we’d need a constitutional amendment to deal with the “anchor baby” issue given decades of jurisprudence that has been generous to such children.

until that point, anybody born in texas is deemed a citizen and gets the same entitlements.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

....This seems to be another case of "what part of illegal do people not understand?"

What part of "close the border" do people not understand?

It must start there or we are left to deal with the fallout from it.

[JustAnotherOne]

Pardon the interruption. Your profile does not show Texan. “That if you are a foreign student and want to get into a Texas college, instead of playing by the rules you should simply enter the USA illegally, wait three years, then apply for college.”
You do not make the rules for the UT system, or A&M. Foreign students pay tuition. US born students pay lower rates. Even if those students are born of non-citizens.
If you are not a Texan, please mind your own business.

[Brookhaven]

I wasn’t talking about people born in Texas; people born in the USA are citizens, period, end of story.

I was talking about people not born in the USA who are here illegally. The wording of the article says they only had to have been here for three years to qualify for the Texas Dream Act (and the last time I checked, most college freshmen were a lot older than three).

That would imply to me that the act was specificly written to enable people here illegally to attend Texas colleges. Is that wrong?

[Cincinatus' Wife]

....The wording of the article says they only had to have been here for three years to...

The article says: "The child has to have lived in Texas the three years leading up to high school graduation.."