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Study: $1400 Tax Hike Needed to Fund US Pensions [ every year for the next 30 years ]
CNBC ^ | June 22 2011 | By: Reuters

Posted on 06/22/2011 1:42:53 PM PDT by NoLibZone

U.S. state and local governments will need to raise taxes by $1,398 per household every year for the next 30 years if they are to fully fund their pension systems, a study released on Wednesday said.

The study, co-authored by Joshua Rauh of Northwestern University and Robert Novy-Marx of the University of Rochester, both of whom are finance professors, argues that states will have to cut services or raise taxes to make up funding gaps if promises made to municipal employees are to be honored.

Pension funding in U.S. cities and states has deteriorated in the wake of the 2007-2009 economic recession as investment earnings dropped, and some states, such as New Jersey and Illinois, skipped or reduced required payments.

The issue has sparked heated debates, from the streets of Wisconsin's capital, Madison, where thousands demonstrated over public employees' rights to bargain, to New Jersey, where lawmakers are expected to give final approval this week to a plan that will scale back benefits for public sector workers.

Wall Street rating agencies and investors in the $2.9 trillion U.S. municipal bond market are increasingly focusing on unfunded pension liabilities as they weigh the credit-worthiness of state and local government debt.

Rauh and Novy-Marx have previously stirred up the debate over state pension obligations, including the dire prediction that existing pension liabilities total around $3 trillion, if expected returns on investments are not counted.

Other studies have estimated the shortfall as far less. The Pew Center on the States, for example, found the pension shortfall for states could be $1.8 trillion, or as much as $2.4 trillion based on a 30-year Treasury bond.

The study issued on Wednesday said contributions will far outstrip gains in revenue.

"To achieve fully funded pension systems within 30 years, contributions would have to rise today to the levels we calculate and then continue to grow along with the economy," Rauh said.

New Jersey will need to increase its revenue by the largest margin, requiring $2,475 more from each household per year, according to the study.

The contribution requirements may be higher for states that already have a significant amount of debt on their books and "cannot tap municipal bond markets as easily for large contributions," the report said.

Illinois, for example, which has the lowest funded ratio of any state pension system, sold billions of dollars of pension bonds over the last two years to make its pension payments.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: collapse; corruption; debt; default; democratcorruption; democrats; dncvotebuys; penions; seiu; taxes; teachers; unioncorruption; unions
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1 posted on 06/22/2011 1:42:59 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Conservatives have warned of this for over thirty years.

We each need to spend $116.00 a month more for the next 30 years to pay off the DNC vote buys.


2 posted on 06/22/2011 1:45:20 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama for among other things , violating the War Powers Act.)
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To: NoLibZone

Well ain’t that too darn bad. Just downsize government and use the leftover $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for the freakin pensions.


3 posted on 06/22/2011 1:46:56 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: NoLibZone

Ain’t paying for it...if governments want to do it, they can have a bake sale or something. But otherwise, P-— off.


4 posted on 06/22/2011 1:47:28 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: NoLibZone
"New Jersey will need to increase its revenue by the largest margin, requiring $2,475 more from each household per year, according to the study. "

You in Nj need to give over $200.00 a month for 30 years to cover DNC Vote buys.

5 posted on 06/22/2011 1:47:58 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama for among other things , violating the War Powers Act.)
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To: NoLibZone

Not a problem for the feds...they’ll just print what they need. /s


6 posted on 06/22/2011 1:49:00 PM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: NoLibZone
Just because the government swells wrote themselves generous checks doesn't mean we have to cash them.
7 posted on 06/22/2011 1:49:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: NoLibZone
U.S. state and local governments will need to raise taxes by $1,398 per household every year for the next 30 years if they are to fully fund their pension systems.

The whole lot of them can go to H E L L!!

8 posted on 06/22/2011 1:49:27 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: NoLibZone
"New Jersey will need to increase its revenue by the largest margin, requiring $2,475 more from each household per year, according to the study."

Even the 47% who don't pay taxes?

Good luck with that.

9 posted on 06/22/2011 1:50:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: NoLibZone

If the debt was paid off tomorrow morning congress would put us back into debt tomorrow afternoon. The only way they’ll ever stop spending is when they no longer exist. And that will be some scary times of survival of the fittest.


10 posted on 06/22/2011 1:50:55 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: NoLibZone

Of course there is no talk on raising taxes on the over half of US households which pay no federal tax. Why are these people not paying their fair share?


11 posted on 06/22/2011 1:51:03 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: NoLibZone

We need rope, lots and lots of rope.


12 posted on 06/22/2011 1:51:58 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: NoLibZone

so i get to pay $1400/yr for someone else’s luxury retirement package?

yea... that ain’t happening


13 posted on 06/22/2011 1:54:40 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: NoLibZone

Wonder why people didn’t bring up these stats during the WI debates.

On the one hand... people were promised these pensions. That was when the economy was booming. I’d be angry too.

On the other hand... the pension system is simply not sustainable. Many of us in the private sector are very worried about our pensions and retirement. Doesn’t seem fair to us either.

Especially, if it means that we can’t afford a “pension” because we are paying for public sector employee’s pensions and commitments.


14 posted on 06/22/2011 1:57:03 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: NoLibZone

CWII will be along soon.


15 posted on 06/22/2011 1:57:59 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: NoLibZone

Of course, they’ll laugh it off the next year and claimed they “screwed up” and we need 2k a year, then the next year—so funny, we messed up again—it’s $2,500.

But you might need retirement too, so where’s that money coming from?—well, screw ya. We need your money.


16 posted on 06/22/2011 1:59:08 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Lurker

“We need rope, lots and lots of rope.”

Well thank god the envirowhackos want to save the trees. More unintended consequences?


17 posted on 06/22/2011 1:59:53 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarah Palin, the only candidate to be vetted by the NY Times, the Washington Post and NBC.)
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To: NoLibZone
U.S. state and local governments will need to raise taxes by $1,398 per household every year for the next 30 years if they are to fund their pension systems

The U.S. private sector is being robbed and gang raped by government, at all levels...

18 posted on 06/22/2011 2:00:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: NoLibZone

It’s even worse because not all households contribute, many are already net tax users and that will probably get worse over time since the baby boomer demographic is now beginning to retire.


19 posted on 06/22/2011 2:00:32 PM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: NoLibZone

“per household”

well, that ain’t gonna happen, is it?

Here’s a story that half the “middle class” couldn’t put its hands on $2000 extra in case of an emergency
http://www.daytondailynews.com/business/in-a-pinch-half-of-u-s-families-cant-find-2-000-1182312.html

My city/county combined are raising property taxes, water and sewer rates, and trash fees to the tune of $1000 per “average” household this year alone


20 posted on 06/22/2011 2:01:53 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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