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Saved from ObamaCare by Anthony Kennedy on the basis of the Tenth Amendment! I won't be surprised. Kennedy has been fairly libertarian.
1 posted on 06/22/2011 11:51:12 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: ForGod'sSake

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2 posted on 06/22/2011 11:52:39 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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Did the Supreme Court Tip its Hand on obummerCare?

Saved from obummerCare by Anthony Kennedy on the basis of the Tenth Amendment! I won't be surprised. Kennedy has been fairly libertarian.

3 posted on 06/23/2011 12:16:14 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: neverdem
Still seems to me that calling the growing of your own crop to feed your own animals "commerce between the States" is an absurd stretch already...undermining my confidence in the ability of the Supreme Court to follow the US Constitution.

I am hoping that some small glimmer of confidence might be restored soon.

4 posted on 06/23/2011 12:30:09 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: neverdem

What this article fails to mention is that this was a 9-0 win for the 10th Amendment. That bodes very ill for Obamacare.


5 posted on 06/23/2011 12:54:24 AM PDT by Tom D. (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benj. Franklin)
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To: neverdem

More importantly, this guts obastard’s attempt to back door gun control using the UN’s Small Arms Treaty...


7 posted on 06/23/2011 1:18:07 AM PDT by piytar (Obama's Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: neverdem

I intimated this in another thread, but IMHO...

SCOTUS is hearing We the People over the past few years and is aware of the far-left’s agenda of the overthrow of the U.S. Constitution, even if they don’t admit it to themselves. Which kind of encroaches on their territory - the U.S. Constitution. Even if a SC Justice is liberal, they’re still personally very much in need of the preservation of the U.S. Constitution. In that respect, the SCOTUS is a sleeping bear that has no army and no police to enforce it’s rulings; it knows that it relies on Executive branches for enforcement.

Courts are very willing to allow and even force legislatures to over-regulate and over-spend in a “give the people what they want” mindset - until economic catastrophe looms and they envision the opposite sentiment having a powerful contingent amongst the citizenry.

I think the SCOTUS is going to be moving towards a Constitutionalist “revival” period. Of course, in the end, as some power is returned to States where it belongs, States are beginning to compete with each other for citizens and businesses like never before due to modern mobility. And it will be the stinging rod of failure that corrects State legislatures that over-regulate and over-spend, which requires them to over-tax their citizens and beg for Federal crumbs. Some States will choose to model their laws in the minimalist fashion of the U.S. Constitution, others will bury their citizens in legal spaghetti. In any case, hopefully the SCOTUS will start very vigorously ripping the teeth out of the Federal bureaucracy, thereby helping to preserve it, as the SCOTUS restores the U.S. Constitution to it’s purpose of binding together the States as a nation of free citizens rather than trying to implement a Federal bureaucracy that can be all things to all people.


10 posted on 06/23/2011 2:04:13 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (PC's Tavern...)
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To: neverdem

Kennedy was also, however, one of the crucial swing votes in nullifying Texas’ law against sodomy, IIRC. He goes both ways, to use a bad pun.

I think the Bond decision is significant, however. I cannot recall any decision that hinges so much on the Tenth Amendment. We are so used to seeing SCOTUS decisions that are perversions of the Fourteenth.


11 posted on 06/23/2011 2:16:28 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: neverdem

Will Kennedy or any of the others want to vote the 10th Amendment is unconstitutional to satisfy Obama? Not likely.


14 posted on 06/23/2011 4:51:06 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: neverdem

That’s a very interesting analysis; thanks for posting it.


15 posted on 06/23/2011 4:52:57 AM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: neverdem

I truly hope the SCOTUS does not evolve their thought process to agree with The Won that the Constitution is a “charter of negative liberties”.


16 posted on 06/23/2011 4:53:36 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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Let us hope so.


18 posted on 06/23/2011 5:20:27 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: neverdem

” Justice Kennedy said at the hearing: “The whole point of separation of powers, the whole point of federalism, is that it inheres to the individual and his or her right to liberty; and if that is infringed by a criminal conviction or in any other way that causes specific injury, why can’t it be raised?” This made court watchers wonder if this might forecast how Justice Kennedy might vote on ObamaCare.”

Inheres? Liberty infringed by criminal conviction? Anyone who can guess how Kennedy might rule on ObamaCare from such a gobbldeyquote is a better man than I.


19 posted on 06/23/2011 5:20:34 AM PDT by flowerplough (Bammy: It frustrates me when people talk about govemrnment jobs as if somehow those are worth less.)
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To: neverdem

I’m betting on a 5-4 decision that its unconstitutional. The final nail in Barry’s coffin.


21 posted on 06/23/2011 5:45:28 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: neverdem
("The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.")

On appeal, the 3rd Circuit then ruled that Bond lacked standing to challenge her conviction, finding that only states, not individuals, can bring challenges under the Tenth Amendment.

I guess the brilliant jurists on the 3rd Circus court STOPPED READING the 10th Amendment at the comma after the phrase "states respectively" and never saw the words "OR TO THE PEOPLE."
35 posted on 06/23/2011 12:30:06 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: neverdem
Thanks neverdem! I'm late to the party but chores kept me away from my computinmachine all day.

I sent out a ping to an earlier THREAD alerting the 10th Amendment Division of this development. Tagged and bagged this thread however.

JMHO but I think Jug Ears had better fasten his seat belt; he's in for a rough ride.

38 posted on 06/23/2011 7:58:42 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: neverdem

As far as I can tell this case stands for the individuals’ standing to sue under the 10th Amendment.

This case does not stand for the scope of the 10th Amendment.


42 posted on 06/25/2011 6:31:00 AM PDT by dervish (Israel is not what's wrong with the Middle East; it's what's right with it)
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To: neverdem
So in U.S. v. Bond Justice Kennedy found that Congress exceeded its constitutional authority. Let's hope he'll do the same when Obamacare makes it to the U.S. Supreme Court.

No he didn't. If they found that, Bond wouldn't have to go back to state court to make an argument on 10A grounds. What they found was that 10A does place limits on the feds' authority and that individuals who are thus harmed can argue that that has happened in a particular case, and not just states. They left it for the lower court to decide if the feds have overstepped in Bond's particular circumstances.

43 posted on 06/26/2011 12:45:37 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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