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Minnesotans feel pinch of government shutdowns
The Chronicle Herald ^ | July 2nd, 2011 | AMY FORLITI and MARTIGA JOHN

Posted on 07/02/2011 9:59:00 AM PDT by KantianBurke

ST. PAUL, Minn. — The blind are losing reading services. A help line for the elderly has gone silent. And poor families are scrambling after the state stopped child-care subsidies.

Hours after a political impasse forced a widespread government shutdown, Minnesota’s most vulnerable residents and about 22,000 laid-off state employees began feeling the effects on Friday. With no immediate end in sight to a dispute over taxes and spending, political leaders spent the day blaming each other for their failure to pass a budget that solves the state’s $5-billion deficit.

In the absence of talks between Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton and GOP legislative leaders, the shutdown was rippling into the lives of people like Sonya Mills, a 39-year-old mother of eight facing the loss of about $3,600 a month in state child-care subsidies.

"It’s like you are still in the wind of the tornado," said Mills, who works at a temp agency. After the shutdown, she had to care for her six youngest children, ages three through 14, because she lost state funding for their daycare and other programs.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: governtmentshutdown; minnesota; theft; welfare
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To: rockabyebaby

I agree things were much better back when people did that. They still do in some foreign countries such as my wife’s India. Now it is pretty much only grandparents or sometimes another relative who is close and it is convenient to them and generally temporary. And not many grandparents can handle eight kids nor would the aunt or whoever put up with it for long.


41 posted on 07/02/2011 12:30:27 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Pining_4_TX
Those in need used to turn to their families

Yes, they did. Now that both adult members work in most families that is impossible. Back when they didn't "need" to have so many things and a big house it wasn't necessary for both to work, at least not full time and more or less permanently. I don't know how you would get things back to the way they were, not without catastrophe of some sort.

42 posted on 07/02/2011 12:35:08 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: KantianBurke
the shutdown was rippling into the lives of people like Sonya Mills, a 39-year-old mother of eight facing the loss of about $3,600 a month in state child-care subsidies.

Remember, people, this impacts the real problems with social security and Medicare/medicaid.

Yet some total idiots here on FR continue to badger and beat on genuine long term SS contributors as if they were in the same category.

43 posted on 07/02/2011 12:44:23 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: KantianBurke
Why aren't her eight baby daddy's not on the hook for the monthly bills?

Precisely!

Pardon me Ms. Mills, I guess I'm just a prick and a bastard when I remind you that each of those kids was the result of a choice you made. (Unless there was rape involved, in that case, you have my sympathy.)

Actions have consequences lady and it's quite arrogant of you to expect the Minnesota taxpayers to pay you for your actions.

I have no objections to hand ups. But I vehemently object to hand outs.

44 posted on 07/02/2011 12:44:23 PM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: KantianBurke

Ripple effect, unpaid cell phone bills, the GOP should cave before Sprint/ATT go out of business.


45 posted on 07/02/2011 12:47:42 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: kingu

She might even be drawing SS if she has a scam with a doctor who declared them disabled.


46 posted on 07/02/2011 12:49:47 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: steve86

“I don’t know how you would get things back to the way they were”

No, nothing ever goes back to the way they were. You can see that the root of all these problems is government. When we first allowed government to become daddy during the depression, families stopped caring for their own, and the increased taxes made it more and more difficult for families to have wives, mothers, and grandmothers at home to take care of their families and communities.

In fact, what we have now are not really communities at all. We have strangers who live in the same area. There are entire neighborhoods consisting of nice houses that are empty 5 days a week.

I remember reading a WSJ article about some older women who were neighbors and had remained friends for decades. They looked out for each other and shared life’s burdens and joys but did not seem to see how much they had meant to their community. I think these women were magnificent in what they had accomplished, but they seemed to think their lives didn’t amount to much. That is a sad commentary on our society. These ladies were the ultimate volunteers, and yet they are looked down on by modern society because they don’t do something “important”.


47 posted on 07/02/2011 1:04:43 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: IronJack
Get ready to drown in boo-hoo treacle. The floodgate of sob stories is about to be opened ...

After watching the local crop of losers in California yucking it up on welfare, I'm all boo-hoo'ed out.
Get the leech spray!

48 posted on 07/02/2011 1:46:08 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: SierraWasp
Hey! Just ask Hitlery Cliton... "IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD!!!" (you haven't even read her book yet, have you???)

That stupid phrase again?
It may common in Africa, even necessary, but I have never lived in Africa.
Never have, hope never to have thst particular damnation.

I live in the USA, and continue hoping for infinitely better than that. My children are all normal, independent and immune to the mob "entitlement" mentality.

49 posted on 07/02/2011 2:03:10 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Those in need used to turn to their families, churches, or private charity.

Unfortunately, that is an unfair system.
Families, churches and private charities all expect some level of responsibility, maturity, effort and contribution on the recipient's part. Certainly no drug use or criminality.

90% of today's recipients of "Obama money" fail miserably on all counts.

50 posted on 07/02/2011 2:08:39 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: steve86

She’s got to have neighbors and more than on relative where she can farm the kids out - it just kills me to see how much of our tax money is going to these losers. And yes there may be times when one needs a hand out but most of these people are lifetime/generational “give me girls” (it’s what we call ‘em here in MA) - and as someone else pointed out, where is/are the dad/dads of these eight kids, why aren’t they picking up their fair share of taking care of these kids. It seems it just keeps getting worse and worse. Here in MA it is not dad friendly - I know a guy who was paying child support at a certain rate per week - he lost his job and every week the child support unit sends him a statement of how much he owns - last I heard he was on unemployment and paying a portion of what he was paying when he had a full time job - the support unit sends him a statement showing the difference of what he owes and demands he come up with the money. I know a guy who years and years ago lost his job, the child support unit came after him, put him in jail for 30 days rather than help him find a job and then expected him to not only pay the $ for what he owed before they arrested him but also to pay support for the 30 days they had him locked up. Meanwhile the es-wife was sitting home doing nothing - I believe at the time the child was about 5 or so but here in MA they do not force the women to go out and get a job, they make the dad get two or three jobs so they can meet the child support requirement, I’m not saying the dad should not be responsible but the women should be made to get a job so the dad isn’t making money and handing 50 - 75% of it over to the state. Oooops, didn’t mean to rant so long!


51 posted on 07/02/2011 2:33:10 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: KantianBurke

And here comes the parade of victims. So much for not using the children in politics.


52 posted on 07/02/2011 2:46:36 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

Watched the evening news tonight. Had two features: Georgia farmer could not find enough people at $12.00 an hour to pick his blackberries (wanted illegals); second story featured teens not being able to find summer jobs. A few years ago we went to Yellowstone and talked to several Polish kids working there. They were excited to work and live there and got paid besides ... company couldn’t find American high school or college kids to work for $7.50 - $10.00 an hour plus free eats, lodging and all the overtime they wanted.


53 posted on 07/02/2011 6:55:31 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: KantianBurke

I have to just shake my head. Hard working Minnesotans are shelling out good money to fund this ladies’ (and I use the term loosely) irresponsible behavior - as well as many, many others.

She and others need a reality check - and learn to keep their legs together.


54 posted on 07/02/2011 7:04:58 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: KantianBurke
facing the loss of about $3,600 a month in state child-care subsidies.

Even working 50 hours a week I've never made that kind of money.
55 posted on 07/02/2011 10:17:15 PM PDT by Ellendra (Remember the Battle of Athens, Tennessee: Aug. 2, 1946)
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To: Ellendra

Have any of you bothered to check out the Chronicle-Herald? This rag is published in Nova Scotia, Canada! Isn’t it wonderful that a couple of schlubs up in “freeze your b@lls off” Canada dane to enlighten us about the tribulations of welfare recipients in Minnesota. I guess maybe they don’t like the idea of 39 year-old women having eight crumb grabbers and no father loosing her government stipend. Nova Scotia, like Massachusetts only colder.


56 posted on 07/02/2011 11:41:53 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: jpsb

I was just about to post this. Tax payers are paying basically $50,000 a year to ONE family? For daycare? No wonder the states are going broke. That is INSANITY.


57 posted on 07/03/2011 12:50:29 AM PDT by COgamer
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To: jnsun

She said she’s trying to get back on her feet. I don’t think she’s ever been on her feet. She spends all of her time on her back.


58 posted on 07/03/2011 9:11:13 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: rockabyebaby

These government dependent people will always vote democrat!


59 posted on 07/03/2011 2:30:12 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: KantianBurke

$3,600/mo in welfare. That’s $43,000 per year, tax free. That’s equivalent to earning at least $60,000 per year if you had to pay state & Federal taxes, SS & Medicare, etc.

But lets call it $43,000 in welfare.

Now add in food stamps, energy vouchers, housing subsidy, transportation vouchers.

She must be clearing six figures in the real value of welfare she extorts from the tax payers.

I’m sure this must feel wonderful to all of you who are working 50, 60 hours a week and making less than $99,000.

Where is our Obama money?


60 posted on 07/03/2011 5:46:13 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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