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U.S. Officials Behind 'Fast and Furious' Gun Sales Should Be Tried in Mexico, Lawmaker Says
Fox News ^ | July 05, 2011 | William La Jeunesse

Posted on 07/05/2011 4:23:56 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

While the investigation continues into the U.S. operation that helped send thousands of guns south of the border, Mexican lawmakers say they'll press for extradition and prosecution in Mexico of American officials who authorized and ran the operation.

"I obviously feel violated. I feel my country's sovereignty was violated," Mexico Sen. Rene Arce Islas told Fox News. "They should be tried in the United States and the Mexican government should also demand that they also be tried in Mexico since the incidents took place here. There should be trials in both places."

Arce is chairman of Mexico's Commission for National Security, a congressional panel similar to the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee.

His point of view is shared by many Mexican politicians, including Sen. Santiago Creel, a former Interior Minister and the likely presidential nominee next year of the National Action Party to succeed Felipe Calderone, also of PAN.

"I think we should at least try to prove that what happened in Mexico must be sanctioned by Mexican laws and under our sovereignty," Creel told us. "What can't happen is that this now ends on an administrative sanction, or a resignation. No, no, no. Human lives were lost here. A decision was made to carry out an operation that brought very high risk to human lives."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; buildthefence; gunwalker; immigration; mexico; mx; sodomhusseinobama
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Cannot wait to see how fearless leader handels this.
1 posted on 07/05/2011 4:23:59 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

He’ll handle it as soon as he manages to clean his pants out.


2 posted on 07/05/2011 4:26:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: moonshinner_09

What we need is a scapegoat. Eric Holder will do :)


3 posted on 07/05/2011 4:27:19 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: moonshinner_09

This is funny in a perverse way, since Obama and Holder are big fans of international courts for our soldiers, and other forms of subordinating our sovereignty to international groups. But now, the shoe is on the other foot, as it is their policies that caused the problem!


4 posted on 07/05/2011 4:27:29 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: moonshinner_09

LOL!!


5 posted on 07/05/2011 4:28:45 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: moonshinner_09

Bump.


6 posted on 07/05/2011 4:30:26 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Mexico should take this to the world court. DumBO believes that the world court trumps U.S. law.


7 posted on 07/05/2011 4:32:22 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (I'll follow Allen West out of hell.)
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To: moonshinner_09

I’m still finding it hard to believe Mexico, at least at the highest level, wasn’t in on the scam. They were trumpeting the 90% lie, right along with our anti-gun pols and our mediots. To me, that suggests they all had a huddle beforehand.


8 posted on 07/05/2011 4:35:20 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: moonshinner_09

Turning Holder over to Mexico to be tried in a Mexican court and serve time in a Mexican prison would send a priceless chill through the ranks of progressive schemers. Not a chance it would happen.


9 posted on 07/05/2011 4:38:45 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: moonshinner_09

I think prosecution (under President Palin) should go for death penalty for Holder. Anyway, I’m fine simply extraditing Holder and his cronies to Mexico. This is in line with the international position of Holder et co.

I hope Mexico issues international arrest warrant via Interpol. He should feel hunted down and in danger of arrest anywhere he goes for the rest of his life.

I think he is an exception, the most disgusting figure in Obama’s admin. He lied under oath to Congress about Clinton’s pardons, started witch hunt against Bush era officials and CIA agents, instituted openly racist policy at DOJ and is responsible of secret government program for weapons trade and is accessory for murder (and lied about it).

“Holder, how many people you killed today??”


10 posted on 07/05/2011 4:39:08 PM PDT by heiss
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To: moonshinner_09

Um, no. We’re not going to try American citizens in Mexico.


11 posted on 07/05/2011 4:42:27 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: moonshinner_09

Karmageddon!

Oh this is fantastic! And for once, the Mexican Pols are right.

But watch Obama say “We’ll rant amnesty for illegals if you back of extradition over gunrunner.”

Or was that his plan to begin with?


12 posted on 07/05/2011 4:43:21 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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Yes, here's a marvelous opportunity for a "demonstration project" to see how those international/transnational court thingies work.

Shades of LBJ!

13 posted on 07/05/2011 4:44:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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We’re not going to try American citizens in Mexico.

So I guess you're in favor of us not trying Mexican citizens in the US then. Right?

L

14 posted on 07/05/2011 4:44:28 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Of course we are. These are the guys who want to try American citizens all over the place. Let them go first.


15 posted on 07/05/2011 4:45:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: moonshinner_09

Including Obama!!!! I’d pop corn to watch that one.


16 posted on 07/05/2011 4:46:30 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: moonshinner_09

Absolutely correct. What the DOJ did amounted to an undeclared “kinetic military action” against Mexico and Mexican residents/nationals using what amount to paramilitary forces.

Does anyone doubt, for even an instant, that the US government would just sit still if the Mexican government started arming American extremists - such as the white supremacists - by funneling arms into the U.S. through illicit channels, just to see if they could “track” those arms to crimes committed in the U.S.?


17 posted on 07/05/2011 4:46:51 PM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: Lurker

If they committed their crime in Mexico, they shouldn’t be tried in the U.S. Mexico has jurisdiction over them. Likewise, American citizens committing crimes in the U.S. shouldn’t be turned over to Mexico.


18 posted on 07/05/2011 4:49:51 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: muawiyah

No damn way. The U.S. has jurisdiction over these crimes.


19 posted on 07/05/2011 4:52:13 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Likewise, American citizens committing crimes in the U.S. shouldn’t be turned over to Mexico.

It's called "extradition" and it's a legal concept that's been around well over a hundred years. I suggest you look into it. If Mexico issues arrest warrants for the Government officials involved in this affair the US is treaty bound to turn them over for trial in Mexico.

If they committed their crime in Mexico, they shouldn’t be tried in the U.S.

That's not the way it works. All it will take is for one Mexican Court to issue an arrest warrant for the head of the ATF or for AG Holder and then demand their extradition. We do it to Mexico every single day.

L

20 posted on 07/05/2011 4:53:56 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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