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Probe finds widespread cheating in Atlanta schools
AP ^ | 7/5/11 | Dorie Turner, Associated Press

Posted on 07/05/2011 5:04:50 PM PDT by Jean S

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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Cheating should only be allowed in minority schools. It is not fair to allow cheating in schools where they are in mostly white areas. Cheating should be legal for the oppressed minorities. How can they be expected to actually compete against the well heeled oppressors?


61 posted on 07/06/2011 6:08:55 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: LowOiL
Schooling begins at home with parents that promote learning as a priority.

Which can be difficult if the parent(s) never had 'learning' as a priority to begin with.

The breakdown of the family unit (especially in minority families) often make teaching difficult as best.

No consistency, no authority, no discipline. In the Bible it says "spare the rod, spoil the child". I'm not sure that today's parents understand that principle. We live in a society where consistency, authority, and discipline have been thrown down the sewer. Our society rewards the cheats and fakes. The children notice, even if the adults don't.

62 posted on 07/06/2011 6:24:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: mom4melody

No, let’s keep the tests and give them honestly, then they will mean something. Grades can be a popularity contest or one could grade on a curve in a room full of idiots.


63 posted on 07/06/2011 6:41:55 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Atlantan


Deputy Superintendent Kathy Augustine

"Deputy Superintendent Kathy Augustine, as well as area superintendents Michael Pitts and Tamara Cotman, also gave the investigators false information, the report said"



"Last week, district officials were questioning witnesses to a Nov. 17th meeting at which SRT 4 area superintendent Tamara Cotman reportedly intimidated principals and urged them not to cooperate with a state investigation of cheating on the 2009 Criterion-Referenced Competency Test (CRCT)."
64 posted on 07/06/2011 6:58:25 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: ladyjane
Really,try teaching English Literature to a class full of Snoop Dogs.

The kids will be taking turns writing a hundred times on the blackboard:

“I will not pistol whip my teacher in class”
“I will not pistol whip my teacher in class”
et cetera et cetera

65 posted on 07/06/2011 7:02:46 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Sans Sarah-Bachmann's The One.")
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To: UCANSEE2

EVERY American Public School teacher works in bureacratic hell tormented by bizarre parents and toxic students. A place where God is forbidden, forgotten and denied.


66 posted on 07/06/2011 7:54:11 AM PDT by Broker (Mabuhay!)
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To: Jean S

Golly, Union monopolied schools cheating and using intimidation to shut whistle blowers up. Destroying documents, lying... sheesh, who would have ever guessed these good liberal democrats would lie, cheat, and intimidate in order to create what ever results they wanted. Now who woulda thunk that?????

/so much sarcasm I can’t lift it with a a backhoe.


67 posted on 07/06/2011 7:58:40 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Jean S

SOP for Atlanta/Fulton County schools....cost per student dwarfs other Georgia counties yet they have to cheat to show progress. Wonder where all the money went? Not in teaching I’d say.


68 posted on 07/06/2011 7:58:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: AFreeBird
Amish kids was it?

Don't

be

so

jokey.

69 posted on 07/06/2011 8:02:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Until Obama, has there ever been, in history, a Traitorous Ruler?)
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To: Jean S

One of the teacher’s unions chiefs said the reason for the cheating was that standardized testing required by No Child Left Behind put undue pressure on teachers to teach to the test rather than “educate” the children.This pressure caused them to cheat. Therefore standardized testing should be eliminated.
This is analagous to a burglar who steals the furniture from a home blaming his crime on the furniture.The union official would argue if you want to eliminate the crime, do not furnish the home.


70 posted on 07/06/2011 8:21:12 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: AFreeBird

>>Amish kids was it?<<

From Lower Botswana.


71 posted on 07/06/2011 8:22:32 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Lazamataz
So we have to find some other U.S. non-black/brown minority that is virtually crime-free, as well as 100% moral and never cheats??

Hummmm. Thinking cap on...pondering.

But the use of Amish kinda still works to expose the PC insanity of totally ignoring any and all race components in cultural ills?
72 posted on 07/06/2011 8:31:48 AM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: Jean S

Looks like teachers are trying to become just as disliked as politicians. Thanks to the unions the teachers have thrown themselves off the pedestal that we had them on.


73 posted on 07/06/2011 8:43:53 AM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: DJlaysitup

And your “...5th Grade achievement level...” is likely a stretch....try getting some of those graduates to read for you...


74 posted on 07/06/2011 9:20:16 AM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: Doogle
". . . tip of the iceberg. "

You are absolutely right. This is happening all over our nation. Many Administrators (Principles, Superintendents, ? School Boards) are requiring that teachers do what they have to do so that students pass.

Is this so that the ratings are higher for the schools? Is it because of the pressure from parents? Is is because of pressure from city/state administrations? Is it because teachers themselves need to be rated higher for tenure, etc.? Is is strictly racial?

I personally know a teacher who was required, to raise the grades of his students by the administration, while he worked in Tennessee and Florida, so the students received passing marks even if they had grades of 0.

The pressure on the teachers in these schools has turned away many good people.

75 posted on 07/06/2011 9:37:28 AM PDT by mia
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To: Jean S

This could be any public school.

There is a lot of pressure to just pass the kids. The cheating at the elementary level is much more widespread.

My wife is a teacher, for now. She doesn’t play ball, and is in trouble for it.


76 posted on 07/06/2011 9:42:47 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Jean S
The End Justify the Means. They're Communists. What did you expect?

The Left half of the Bell Curve has to be erased, since all people are precisely equal. There can be no variation allowed. (Except for our Leftist Betters.)

Remind me again why we don't shoot cheats.

77 posted on 07/06/2011 9:45:27 AM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: Jean S

The purpose of public education is not to educate. The purpose is to ethnically cleanse affordable neighborhoods and to steal taxes from the productive class.


78 posted on 07/06/2011 9:55:28 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: hal ogen
The former superintendent should be jailed...what an affirmative-action, equal-opportunity loser. Just what is with these “educators”? This happens all over the USA. They seem to fail in one school system. Gain a pension, leave to another school system and get another pension after messing with those students futures. They are overpaid loser grifters. Justice now...jail them all. “Superintendent of the Year”?????? This reprobate should be serving time as “Inmate of the Year”. Disgusting clown...

LOL, they replaced this winner with another superintendent of similar background (and beliefs, values, etc, I'm sure) from Prince Georges Cty, MD!

79 posted on 07/06/2011 10:00:00 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: P.O.E.
The work ethic is shot, and the idea of pride in everyday accomplishments is lost.

This is the very predictable result of affirmative action. You simply cannot enforce two separate standards on a group of people. The de facto standard will revert to the lower one.

Whoever thought a good way to integrate blacks into the workplace would be to hold them to lower standards than their eventual classmates and co-workers should be shot.

80 posted on 07/06/2011 10:03:59 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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