If Perry does mount presidential run, we'll see if his walk matches his talk

Lubbock Avalanche-Journal ^ | July 10, 2010 | Editorial

[Cincinatus' Wife]

If Rick Perry does mount a successful bid for the U.S. presidency, it will be interesting to see whether he can translate his past and present criticisms of the federal government into concrete changes to the sprawling bureaucracy.

Perry has yet to say he will or won’t toss his hat into the Republican race for the right to square off against President Barack Obama in 2012. He is, however, making all the moves of a potential candidate testing the waters. Insiders are mixed on the odds. Some say he’s definitely in; others put the odds at 50-50.

But the mere possibility the longest-serving Texas governor will join a party battle featuring hopefuls who conservatives and the tea party are not particularly excited about has pundits of all stripes from coast to coast offering their views of how a Perry candidacy would play out.

Perry, who’s never lost an election, has a good chance of rising quickly to the frontrunner position against Mitt Romney, Michelle Bachman, Herman Cain, Tim Pawlenty, Newt Gingrich and Jon Huntsman. His unabashed conservative message puts him at or beyond Bachman’s position on the far right end of the political spectrum. His executive experience compares well to Romney, Pawlenty and Huntsman.

And, like him or not, there’s little denying Perry knows how to campaign, raise money and deliver rousing speeches.

While polls show Obama in danger of losing to a generic Republican candidate — and the prevailing wisdom in the punditry sphere is the 2012 race is the GOP’s to lose, there is a real question whether a candidate who energizes the conservative base can do so without having his or her far-right stances turn off center-right independents, pushing them into Obama’s column.

But should Perry manage to keep his perfect election record intact and find himself in the White House, we’ll find out whether his Washington walk matches his Texas talk.

Assuming the GOP holds its House majority and gains control of the Senate, we can imagine Perry’s to-do list starting with the repeal of Obamacare and ending with a full makeover of the Environmental Protection Agency. In between, he’d likely put a host of agencies to work shredding scores of regulations he’s railed against. He’d also likely push Congress to end or redesign a variety of federal programs he views as overreaches in violation of state rights laid out in the Tenth Amendment.

Perry’s real test would be border security. He’s decried the federal government’s failure to secure the border, but the problem has stymied presidents from both parties for decades. Perry might be able the change that, but the odds are he’d merely find himself transformed from the critic to the criticized.

While some pundits question whether voters will back another Texas governor so soon after George W. Bush’s divisive two terms at the helm, others see Perry as a different sort of conservative. Unlike “compassionate conservative” Bush, some see Perry as more like Ronald Reagan.

But unlike the easy-going, grandfatherly Gipper, Perry is more like the Texas A&M yell leader he once was.

“Our loudest opponents on the left are never going to like us, so let’s stop trying to curry favor with them,” he said in a recent speech.

We’ve agreed with Perry, and we’ve disagreed with him. He’s certainly not perfect, but no candidate is. But if sending Perry to Washington would balance the budget, address the debt and rein in over-regulation, it would be a welcome change from the current state of affairs.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Hi smoothsailing!

Happy July 10! Had a great 4th!

Hope the Tea Party makes a lot of noise.

I had not seen that.

Thanks. They need to badger their legislators too, as they left the special session without giving Perry anything to sign.

[smoothsailing]

Here's a direct link to the letter...

AN OPEN LETTER TO TEXAS GOVERNOR RICK PERRY

I wonder how many folks have signed it.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

I wanted Steve Forbes and ran threads all over FR for him.

George W. Bush is history.

Perry is not a Bush.

What kind of accent do you have?

Not that it matters, but maybe I just can’t take you very seriously if it reminds me of someone....ya know how that goes.

[TheOldLady]

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[Cincinatus' Wife]

You must be on the “payroll” too!!

LOL!

GREAT list.

[BobL]

“Well, it’s so nice something about Texas pleases you.”

Lots of things about Texas pleases me, but I just don’t give Perry the credit.

For example, we had a great freeway system, but Perry chose to let our gas tax lapse and dump toll roads on us. That doesn’t please me - as it was nothing but a political ploy so that he could say he didn’t “raise the gas tax”...even though anyone using those roads is dealing with $1,000+ in fees, and many times that when Perry gets through giving Cintra free-reign to on tolling on our new roads (or even expansions of existing roads).

Most of the rest...again, he didn’t do much either way.

[BobL]

“LOL! Yep, we might as well shut Free Republic down, who needs all that awareness crap anyway.”

Awareness is the job if Free Republic (and Rush). ACTING ON IT is the job of elected politicians, particularly if they claim to be conservatives.

Have a nice day too!!!

[patriot08]

“You must be on the “payroll” too!!

LOL!

GREAT list.”

No, but uncle Rick did promise me a Caddy convertible when I finish school

[newzjunkey]

You need to find a hobby.

Your "untested drug" was approved by the FDA the year before. Are you familiar with FDA procedures? Even a little bit? It was also recommended by both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) before Perry signed his executive order which included an opt-out clause.

But, you knew this already.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Damn!

I knew he loved you better!

[Diogenesis]

Your posts are less than truthful.

Correction #1:

In 2007, when Texas governor Rick Perry issued
an executive order that all girls entering the 6th grade
would receive Gardasil, parents were furious.
Some argued that the vaccine would promote promiscuity.
The order was eventually overturned."

Correction #2:

RINO Perry rejected opponents' and Conservatives' calls to reverse
his mandate

Correction #3:

There are >40 Types of HPV, 15 Types linked to cervical cancer.
Gardasil works against 4 Types and
does not grant full immunity to those 4 Types of HPV.
Gardasil offers no protection against the other
11 strains of HPV that have been linked to cervical cancer.

Sexually promiscuous women (not chaste girls)
require three shots over six months
CDC: 44% of teenagers received the HPV vaccine
but only 27% of them received all three requisite doses.
There is no evidence one does even works.

CDC: As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil
were distributed in the US. VAERS received a total
of 18,727 reports of adverse events; 68 deaths.

[newzjunkey]

Merck had a national campaign for the vaccine even then targeting both parents through ads and various levels of government.

In fact Los Angeles Unified School District started providing Gardasil in the 2006-2007 school year.

Perry signed his order in early 2007.

You only hear about Perry because his opt-out "mandate" cause a fuss and was overturned by the TX legislature.

Much of the outrage comes from people who bafflingly see Gardasil as permission for wantonly immoral sex by young kids rather than classed like other vaccines. Then you have the anti-vaccine types who want nothing to do with them no matter how safe or useful.

Since it "opting-out" was always offered under Perry's order the scale of outrage always seemed disproportionate to the his "offense" unless you fall in one of the aforementioned groups.

FDA approved it. American Academy of Pediatrics recommended it. CDC recommended it. It's not as if this was some sick Tuskegee Experiment on little girls. Or done in secret. Or had no opt-out provision.

The vaccine is useless if the patient is already infected so you give the vaccine late enough in life that it's safe yet early enough existing infection is highly improbable. In this case, it's given before sexual activity might take place.

HPV, strains of which Gardasil protects against, infects three-quarters of the population in their lifetime. Most don't know it because they're asymptomatic and their natural immune system kills the virus. Gardasil is narrowly aimed at the strains which cause cervical cancer only.

Parents are creeped out at the idea of their children one day being sexual active but that uneasiness clouds the fundamental good here: preventing cervical cancer. No daughter is going to know if she'll be exposed by a creep boyfriend, a vile rapist or an unfaithful husband. The man himself likely wouldn't know he was a carrier.

Yes cervical cancer can be treatable if caught early but the cold reality is women die from it.

Maybe Perry should've gone about it differently but I believe he has a strong argument saying it was in keeping with his "prolife" principles and he always let parents have the final say.

[newzjunkey]

Merck had a national campaign for the vaccine even then targeting both parents through ads and various levels of government.

In fact Los Angeles Unified School District started providing Gardasil in the 2006-2007 school year.

Perry signed his order in early 2007.

You only hear about Perry because his opt-out "mandate" cause a fuss and was overturned by the TX legislature.

Much of the outrage comes from people who bafflingly see Gardasil as permission for wantonly immoral sex by young kids rather than classed like other vaccines. Then you have the anti-vaccine types who want nothing to do with them no matter how safe or useful.

Since it "opting-out" was always offered under Perry's order the scale of outrage always seemed disproportionate to the his "offense" unless you fall in one of the aforementioned groups.

FDA approved it. American Academy of Pediatrics recommended it. CDC recommended it. It's not as if this was some sick Tuskegee Experiment on little girls. Or done in secret. Or had no opt-out provision.

The vaccine is useless if the patient is already infected so you give the vaccine late enough in life that it's safe yet early enough existing infection is highly improbable. In this case, it's given before sexual activity might take place.

HPV, strains of which Gardasil protects against, infects three-quarters of the population in their lifetime. Most don't know it because they're asymptomatic and their natural immune system kills the virus. Gardasil is narrowly aimed at the strains which cause cervical cancer only.

Parents are creeped out at the idea of their children one day being sexual active but that uneasiness clouds the fundamental good here: preventing cervical cancer. No daughter is going to know if she'll be exposed by a creep boyfriend, a vile rapist or an unfaithful husband. The man himself likely wouldn't know he was a carrier.

Yes cervical cancer can be treatable if caught early but the cold reality is women die from it.

Maybe Perry should've gone about it differently but I believe he has a strong argument saying it was in keeping with his "prolife" principles and he always let parents have the final say.

[Happy Rain]

Though born and raised in the South I still sound a lot like my late Yankee father—but Perry's speech impediment—a common Texas affliction called talking like a Texan,is no real big deal to me.It's more a mild shortcoming than a serious fault anyway.
If he declares I'm going to give him his day in court.So far he sounds better than anyone else except perhaps Bachman,Cain,Palin and West.Two of whom have yet to declare either.

[deport]

Since it "opting-out" was always offered under Perry's order the scale of outrage always seemed disproportionate to the his "offense" unless you fall in one of the aforementioned groups.

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I'm not going to dig through a lot of back records to find this but I believe that 'opting out' was already on the books in Texas but to do so you had to personally go to some gov't agency to pick up the 'opt out' form. Perry's EO expanded the Parental Rights by making the form available to the parents over the internet. In other words he was making it easier for them to 'opt out' if they so chose.

Parents’ Rights. The Department of State Health Services will, in order to protect the right of parents to be the final authority on their children’s health care, modify the current process in order to allow parents to submit a request for a conscientious objection affidavit form via the Internet while maintaining privacy safeguards under current law.

[Diogenesis]

The Rove-chosen RINO Perry acted in his own interest (and Merck's stockholders).

"The vaccine, Gardasil, is manufactured by Merck,
which was represented in Austin by the lobbyist Mike Toomey,
who was chief of staff for Mr. Perry from 2002 to 2004. "

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CDC: "As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil®
were distributed in the U.S. and VAERS received a total
of 18,727 reports of adverse events

As of June 22, 2011 there have been a total 68 VAERS reports
of death among those who have received Gardasil®."

---

“Foaming at the mouth, shock, seizures, paralysis,
coma-even death have been reported
as a result of taking the vaccine Gardasil from Merck ... “

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“ Critics rip Perry’s vaccine mandate
Governor rejects opponents’ calls to reverse order
AUSTIN — Gov. Rick Perry stood firm Monday against a political firestorm generated by his
order that sixth-grade girls be inoculated against a sexually transmitted virus linked to cervical cancer.
Social conservatives from Texas to Washington called on Perry to reverse his order making
Texas the first state to require the vaccine, saying the mandate makes sex seem permissible
and that parents should be the ones to decide whether to immunize their daughters.
And several Texas lawmakers expressed outrage at Perry for circumventing the legislative process. “

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"RP65 – Relating to the immunization of young women
from the cancer-causing Human Papillomavirus.
Friday, February 02, 2007 • Executive Order
BY THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS
Rules.The Health and Human Services Executive Commissioner
shall adopt rules that mandate the age appropriate vaccination
of all female children for HPV prior to admission to the sixth grade."

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The definition of mandate is a command by a person,
group, or organization (the 'mandator') to another
(the 'mandatary') to act in a particular way, or here
to ingest, inject, imbed a poison or other substance
they do not want and for which informed consent was
never taken.

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"Gardasil Causes 400 Percent More Deaths than Other Common Vaccine
A federal report has concluded that the human papillomavirus (HPV)
vaccine Gardasil has a 400 percent higher rate of adverse effects
than another comparable vaccine, the Menactra anti-meningitis shot. "

[Cincinatus' Wife]

"....While Perry has a good relationship with social conservatives, they have not always seen eye to eye. In 2007, Perry proposed requiring all school-aged girls to receive the HPV vaccine. Concerned Women for America was one of the groups that thought that the vaccine should carry an opt-in provision, in which parents would sign their kids up to receive the free vaccination, rather than Perry's proposed opt-out provision, in which all female school children would automatically receive the vaccine unless their parents explicitly requested that they not receive the vaccine.

Ann Hettinger, Concerned Women for America's state director of Texas, was instrumental in convincing Perry to change his proposal to an opt-in provision. When asked if Perry's original plans for the HPV vaccine would be an issue if he were to run for president, [Penny] Nance [CEO of Concerned Women for America] replied, “It would've been an issue if he had not fixed it.”Source

[deport]

Merriam-Webster

opt out
intransitive verb
: to choose not to participate in something —often used with of
..opted out of the project..

[Diogenesis]

"RP65 - Relating to the immunization of young women
from the cancer-causing Human Papillomavirus.
Friday, February 02, 2007 o Executive Order
BY THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS
Rules.The Health and Human Services Executive Commissioner
shall adopt rules that mandate the age appropriate vaccination
of all female children for HPV prior to admission to the sixth grade."

---

The definition of mandate is a command by a person,
group, or organization (the 'mandator') to another
(the 'mandatary') to act in a particular way, or here
to ingest, inject, imbed a poison or other substance
they do not want and for which informed consent was
never taken.

[deport]

Yep the mandate part is in the RP65 but that is only one section. Another section entitled Parental Rights is in the same PR65 you quote. It reads as follows:

Parents’ Rights. The Department of State Health Services will, in order to protect the right of parents to be the final authority on their children’s health care, modify the current process in order to allow parents to submit a request for a conscientious objection affidavit form via the Internet while maintaining privacy safeguards under current law.

So you have the mandate section but with the expanded 'opt-out' section for those that choose not to be included in the mandate.