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Democrats and the Social Security Trust Fund Lie Exposed today
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| July 12, 2011
| Reid/Obama quotes
Posted on 07/12/2011 8:25:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs
I’ve heard that one several times from lefty commentators (Hartmann for example) - the money is “invested” in T-bills. Question I want to ask him is - when the SSA cashes in the T-bills to get the money to pay SS recipients - where does the money come from?
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posted on
07/14/2011 10:54:28 AM PDT
by
utford
To: utford
RE :”
Ive heard that one several times from lefty commentators (Hartmann for example) - the money is invested in T-bills. Question I want to ask him is - when the SSA cashes in the T-bills to get the money to pay SS recipients - where does the money come from?”
I have occasionally listened to him too , that is another big lie too.
A T-bill is a legal document that requires the govmt repay a investor, individual, corporation, mutual fund back principle and interest.
But a SS IOU is from the government to itself. There is no legal requirement to pay SS recipients beyond current spending law. Congress can and has and may cut those payments, or tax them more.
If congress was to pass a law negating T-bills repayment the Federal government could be sued by the investor. But we have no recourse, the SCOTUS long ago decided recipients are not legally entitled to SS.
SS IOUs are just worthless paper saying the government owes itself money. But those elected will never admit that.
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posted on
07/14/2011 11:05:27 AM PDT
by
sickoflibs
(If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
To: Quix; GOPJ; sickoflibs; M. Espinola; Whenifhow; investigateworld; stephenjohnbanker; ...
Everything you say is true. But it gets worse . . .
Video: Illuminati In Movies Part 1 of 8
Isn't it heartwarming to know and understand how completely these evil, demonic bastards control our world ___ ?
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posted on
07/15/2011 7:11:56 AM PDT
by
ex-Texan
(Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
To: ex-Texan; All
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posted on
07/15/2011 7:35:21 AM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
To: ex-Texan; GOPJ; sickoflibs; Quix; M. Espinola; Whenifhow; stephenjohnbanker; TruthConquers; blam; ..
RE *
[Co]lumnist Charles Krauthammer wrote a subsequent column questioning [the assertion that there is a $ 2.6 Trillion social security trust fund
This claim is a breathtaking fraud. The pretense is that a flush trust fund will pay retirees for the next 26 years. Lovely, except for one thing: The Social Security trust fund is a fiction.
In other words, the Social Security trust fund containsnothing.
Well duh ! it should be no surprise that the congresses with Reagan, GHWB, Clinton, and GWB all spent these excess FICA taxes (SS/FICA started running deficits in 2009) .
The big lie was that the money was being put in a trust fund for our retirement . The bigger and bolder lie is that it is there now. In spite of being clearly exposed as a lie this week, as documented in the body of this post for all time (by me ) , both parties are still standing behind the big lie.
This is why Republicans lose me. I don't hear no candidates talking about this, nor is Palin(that I have seen). Just waiting for the Germany and China to bail us out and dictate the terms.
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posted on
07/15/2011 7:40:03 AM PDT
by
sickoflibs
(If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
To: ex-Texan; Lazamataz; Dr. Brian Kopp; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; ...
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posted on
07/15/2011 9:12:15 AM PDT
by
Quix
(Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
To: sickoflibs
I don’t think there’s a bailout scheduled.
. . . Only a more emphatic push of an even bigger lever on an even bigger toilet.
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posted on
07/15/2011 9:14:10 AM PDT
by
Quix
(Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
To: sickoflibs
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posted on
07/15/2011 9:15:07 AM PDT
by
shield
(Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
To: sickoflibs; Wissa
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posted on
07/15/2011 9:17:49 AM PDT
by
shield
(Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
To: Quix; GOPJ; sickoflibs; M. Espinola; Whenifhow; investigateworld; stephenjohnbanker; Joya; ...
On June 9, 2011, President Obama issued a sweeping executive order for a White House Rural Council that purports to exert broad municpal powers over the food, fiber, and energy production of Rural American. Where's the Line, America to how much power the president can amass by executive order?
President Obama Executive Order 13575
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_juUVKKBw-k&feature=player_embedded
Chilling . . . Another over the top power grab by Executive Order
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posted on
07/16/2011 7:58:25 AM PDT
by
ex-Texan
(Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
To: Quix; GOPJ; sickoflibs; M. Espinola; Whenifhow; investigateworld; stephenjohnbanker; Joya; blam; ...
Read more Here:
Executive Order # 13575: The theft of rural and agricultural lands for UN Agenda 21
Excerpt:
* * * This council can be viewed as nothing less than the establishment of a domestic terrorism group which will orchestrate the coming assault on private agricultural property owners in an effort to force them off their land and out of production. There was an effort during the Reagan presidency to launch a similar assault on individual owners of agricultural land which would have displaced more than 2 million people, handing their land over to others who were more amenable to the government and UN control. * * *
More videos at the link above
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posted on
07/16/2011 8:04:28 AM PDT
by
ex-Texan
(Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
To: ex-Texan; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ..
INCREDIBLE.
However, the goals is . . .
NO private property of any kind . . .
except, of course, for the pigs who are more equal than other pigs.
Perhaps they are starting with agricultural land to make engineering the famines all the easier and quicker.
Remember that they plan to turn most of the land back to their goddess . . . mother nature.
. . . and to house the serfs and slaves in Soviet style concrete hives . . . errr . . . row on row of thrilling public housing tiny little boxes.
Even Orwell was an optimist compared to these jerks from hell.
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posted on
07/16/2011 10:03:36 AM PDT
by
Quix
(Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
To: Quix
...these jerks from hell.They are indeed.
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posted on
07/16/2011 10:44:56 AM PDT
by
TheOldLady
(FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
To: TheOldLady
Yup.
Thx for your kind reply.
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posted on
07/16/2011 1:28:59 PM PDT
by
Quix
(Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
To: ex-Texan
The Obamatrons Big Lie continues.
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posted on
07/16/2011 9:06:43 PM PDT
by
M. Espinola
(Freedom is never 'free'.)
To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; Gilbo_3; ...
Someone at DU asks the question, about their own Democrats big lie about SS not adding to deficit:
DU post with comments: 'If social security has it's own trust fund and does not affect our deficit, why would not raising' The 14 trillion dollar debt figure comes from $ 11 T publicly held (or Federal reserve) treasury notes and 3 trillion dollars IOUs from treasury held by Social Security. So to make SS payments the IOU # $3T goes down and the public debt number $11T goes up, requiring a debt limit increase to pay it. The second number is real debt to individuals, companies, mutual funds, pensions, except the Federal reserve and the SS IOUs to itself.
As a funny aside, Ron Paul suggested the US government should default on it's debt to the Federal Reserve since we will never pay back any any of the principle we owe anyway and the FR is part of the government in a sense, another subject they don't want discussed. He has a way of hitting the nerve sometimes.
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posted on
07/21/2011 1:00:01 AM PDT
by
sickoflibs
(If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
To: sickoflibs
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that the DHS own internal documents list predominantly white conservative groups as the most likely terrorists, such as Ron Paul supporters, gun owners, gold bullion enthusiasts, and a myriad of other comparatively banal political interests that are largely the domain of white middle class Americans. Speaking of Ron Paul...
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-video-characterizes-white-americans-as-most-likely-terrorists/
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posted on
07/21/2011 9:16:11 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Honk if I'm paying for your car, your mortgage, and your big, fat Greek bailout - mewzilla)
To: sickoflibs
It is time for a new government. This one is unfixable.
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posted on
07/24/2011 5:47:00 AM PDT
by
April Lexington
(Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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