Posted on 07/12/2011 9:39:04 PM PDT by opentalk
High-level engineer demonstrates how Nordyke birth certificates used.
A prominent software engineer claims the Obama birth certificate released by the White House was forged by using as templates the birth certificates of twins born in Hawaii one day after the president.
The engineer, a high-level programmer for a state government, spoke on condition of anonymity...
.... He believes forgers used the registration numbers of the birth certificates belonging to Gretchen and Susan Nordyke, 10637 and 10638, to create the Obama birth certificate number, 10641.
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Where is obama's original BC?
In a binder in some Hawaii DOH office.
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REGISTRAR ONAKA: Why won't Onaka and President Obama let reporters look at the original long form since President Obama has already VOLUNTARILY showed the world a copy of his long form birth certificate to great fanfare at a White House press conference on April 27, 2011?
That is, why is Registrar Onaka claiming that he cannot allow reporters to see the original long form birth certificate because of Hawaii privacy laws, when President Obama has already VOLUNTARILY released his long form birth certificate to the public on April 27, 2011?
I thought that President Obama gave up his right to privacy when it came to his long form birth certificate when he VOLUNTARILY released his long form birth certificate to the public on April 27, 2011.
It looks to me that Registrar Onaka is trying to conceal something by hiding behind Hawaii's privacy laws as he refuses to let reporters examine the original of a document that the President of the United States has already VOLUNTARILY released to the public.
As you adjust the first layer to be more translucent, the bottom layer that is the security pattern mated to the PDF document will then distort the upper layer , randomly.
This is not evidence of uniqueness. It is evidence of distortion by your computer, melding two unique and distinct layers, one created in 1961, and the other added to it 50 years later, and providing you with a brand new view of the composite.
You can't modify the document to prove the boxes are unique. That is creating distortions between layers.
I appreciate your joke, very funny. Years after the moon landing I met a few of the engineers that worked at NASA. At the time I was working with a group that was developing GPS for the United states army. Cool stuff.
Trust me , we landed on the moon. And the two boxes are Identical without your computer driven distortions.
“Proof that the legal system is silly and that it should be viewed with derision.”
Actually, it’s more like proof that none of the top notch conservative constitutional law firms or legal think tanks/foundations has represented plaintiffs in any natural born citizen/eligibility lawsuits.
The folks who are well known for representing conservative positions before the Supreme Court on pro-life issues, countering the homosexual agenda, affirmative action, property rights, gun rights, and defense of individual liberty have not been seen or heard from as advocates on this issue.
Where are Judge Bork, Theodore Olson, The American Center for Law and Justice, the Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies, the Landmark Legal Foundation, The Center for Individual Rights, Judicial Watch, the Alliance Defense Fund, The Institute for Justice, or any of the conservative state Attorneys General like Virginia’s Ken Cuccinelli, et cetera?
“Republicans flat out do not won’t to touch this issue. However, there may come a point they have no choice. Boehner was asked that question...what else would you expect him to say on national tv?
Boehner knows zero doesn’t meet Article II eligibility of the constitution. We also know the dem controlled senate would never convict him....it’d never get that far.
Zero would be Nixonized long before that. Can you even imagine the dirt that’d come out on Zero if there was an impeachment hearing? Zero would go into such a meltdown they’d not be enough drug cocktails to prevent that...so Biden would have to ask the 25th be invoked.”
I haven’t heard one member of Congress even hint at impeachment hearings, so I’ll believe it when I see it.
The public isn’t privy to what is being said behind closed doors....
You have to remember, when dealing with Obama, your basically dealing with a common criminal with a gift for acting confident. They do this kind of stuff. They are called Con men. For example, his book, Audacity of Hope was written by Bill Ayers. Yet he tells everyone he himself is a gifted author who wrote it. We all know its a fabrication.
It takes four people to pull this off. Obama, Governor Abercromby, and one or two people in the Hawaii Health department. Putting people on the moon required thousands of highly educated people.
So take another look, and strip out the security layer. Just get the single layer, and lets have another look see.
Thanks,
PA
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Just wondering: Did your friend work on ALL the moon landings?
As you know, there was more than one moon landing, and several of them I found spectacular as I saw land rovers skipping over the moon landscape.
APOLLO 13, a terrible accident turned into a great, riveting movie starring Tom Hanks: How do the moon-landing-is-a-fake people explain the APOLLO 13 terrible accident---an explosion put a large hole in the side of the main ship---where the APOLLO 13 crew had to travel AROUND THE MOON and try to return home by using the moon lander that was supposed to land on the moon?
1. APOLLO 13, the moon landing that never was, should put to rest any idea that ALL the moon landings were some Hollywood staged extravaganza, that is, that they were clever Hollywood fakes.
2. Are you telling us that the terrible APOLLO 13 accident---where a hole was blown out the side of the ship---was a clever fake? How absurd.
3. APOLLO 13 traveled around the moon before going home to earth: To me, if NASA had the technology to send APOLLO 13 around the moon, then it seems to me that NASA also had the technology to go that extra step to send a small ship from the main ship circling the moon onto the moon itself.
4. So, until moon landing conspirators can explain how the APOLLO 13 terrible accident---where the lives of 3 men hung dangerously in the balance--was also a staged, fake Hollywood clever special effects production, then I say that it is ABSURD---bordering on LUNACY---to claim that ANY of the moon landings was a fake.
I don’t want to hijack the thread, but I know what I know, and my cousin (not “my friend”, as you state) did what he did, and I have no reasons to doubt his story. You can win if that’s how you get your rocks off, I’m not part of any crazy conspiracy to claim that aliens had landed in Nevada, but I do enjoy trips to my cousin’s digs in the Bahamas every couple of years and meeting his celebrity neighbors. Some things, I am pretty sure of it, happen in ways different than the government reports and the media dutifully parrots.
“The public isn’t privy to what is being said behind closed doors....”
That’s true. Well, time will tell.
REGISTRAR ONAKA: Why won’t Onaka and President Obama let reporters look at the original long form since President Obama has already VOLUNTARILY showed the world a copy of his long form birth certificate to great fanfare at a White House press conference on April 27, 2011?
That is, why is Registrar Onaka claiming that he cannot allow reporters to see the original long form birth certificate because of Hawaii privacy laws, when President Obama has already VOLUNTARILY released his long form birth certificate to the public on April 27, 2011?
I thought that President Obama gave up his right to privacy when it came to his long form birth certificate when he VOLUNTARILY released his long form birth certificate to the public on April 27, 2011.
It looks to me that Registrar Onaka is trying to conceal something by hiding behind Hawaii’s privacy laws as he refuses to let reporters examine the original of a document that the President of the United States has already VOLUNTARILY released to the public.
Any person has the ability to relinquish THEIR OWN right to privacy. That does not alter the state’s obligation to maintain the privacy of its records.
For example, YOU may give out any information that you wish regarding your Social Security number, that does not give anyone else the right to obtain your number without your permission.
No reporter has requested to see President Obama’s original birth documents. If they did, what they need to do is obtain a court order from a judge and they can gain access under Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18 (b) which states that “b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:
A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;”
In short: get a judge to issue a court order, get to see the original birth certificate in the files at the Hawaii Department of Health.
The Registrar of Vital Statistics is following the law of his state which has been on the books for 20 years.
It should not be difficult for any serious news organization to get a judge to issue a court order.
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Again, did your cousin say that he knows for a fact that ALL the moon landings were staged in a secret Hollywood studio somewhere?
Are you saying that there was so much pressure on NASA in the late 1960s to fulfill the late President Kennedy's dream to put a man on the moon as soon as possible that NASA went to the extraordinary trouble to stage the first moon landing in a secret Hollywood studio?
Let's assume for the moment that the FIRST moon landing with Armstrong----I guess that your cousin is calling Armstrong a liar when Armstrong says that he landed on the moon---was a fake. Then what about moon landings #2, #3, and so forth? Where they staged too, because if only one of those landings was real, that is all we need to prove that NASA had the technology to put a man on the moon.
NOTE: If you believe such a story, then I have a genuine Obama long form birth certificate to sell you, autographed by Obama senior himself.
APPOLLO 13 accident: If you believe your cousin and you also believe that the APOLLO 13 terrible accident was a fake---where the lives of 3 men were in dangerous trouble as they traveled around the moon in a desperate attempt to get back to earth---then I think that your cousin is having fun with you, because your cousin is completely not believable when he calls the first man on the moon Armstrong a liar.
I don't think so. I can tell you what my last set of blood tests revealed; I can post them here and on a website for all the world to see. That still doesn't mean you can get them from the doctor yourself--he's still bound by the privacy laws.
In a binder in some Hawaii DOH office.
Well then, what is the problem with getting a DOH-issued photostatic copy?
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President Obama: So why won't President Obama give reporters permission to examine his original long form birth certificate in Hawaii, a copy of which President Obama has already shown to the world at a White House press conference to great fanfare on April 27, 2011?
It looks to me like President Obama is trying to hide something.
KAPIOLANI HOSPITAL: And while we are at, why won't President Obama give reporters permission to examine his hospital records from his birthdate of Aug. 4, 1961 records that will probably contain routine information that we already have seen on President Obama's long form birth certificate?
Again, it looks to me that President Obama is trying to hide something in his hospital records by playing hardball when it comes to the release of his Aug. 4, 1961 hospital records.
Could President Obama be hiding the fact there are no Kapiolani records for him for his birthdate of Aug.4, 1961?
It doesn't take much digging to find that obama was born in two separate Hawaiian hospitals and delivered by separate doctors on the same day. Which really means that obama wasn't born in Hawaii and his birth certificate is a complete fabrication.
What if I tell you that the MythBusters proved that it was impossible to fake the moon landing.
You already supposedly have a DOH-issued scan. What makes a photostatic copy better than a scan? Besides, if they did issue one, birthers would just claim it had the same kind of problems the LFBC does. Have you noticed that the Nordyke twin's BC has the same kind of "kerning" Obama's form allegedly does? And that the 'H' in 'Honolulu' is on the same baseline as the rest of the letters in two cases, but floats above the baseline in a third? Do you really think the birthers would accept those kinds of anomalies in a photostat from Obama?
I don't think they'd be satisfied even if the Hawaii DOH ripped the page out of the binder and passed it around to all 300 million of us.
I don't think so. I can tell you what my last set of blood tests revealed; I can post them here and on a website for all the world to see. That still doesn't mean you can get them from the doctor yourself--he's still bound by the privacy laws.
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1. We are NOT talking about medical records here. We are talking about examining an original birth certificate, a document which is not covered by federal strict medical privacy laws but by the state of Hawaii privacy laws.
2. Are you telling me that if you gave your doctor WRITTEN permission to allow me to see your blood tests, he can't legally do so because he is still somehow prohibited from showing them to me under strict federal government medical laws?
3. PRESIDENT OBAMA: Are you telling me that if President Obama gave Hawaii officials WRITTEN permission to allow reporters to examine his original long form birth certificate, Hawaii officials could still deny reporters access to President Obama's ORIGINAL long form birth certificate because of Hawaii government privacy laws?
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