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State programmer identifies template for Obama 'forgery'
WND ^ | July 12, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 07/12/2011 9:39:04 PM PDT by opentalk

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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
What makes a photostatic copy better than a scan?

A photostatic copy can't be altered using software. Thanks for playing.

201 posted on 07/14/2011 6:53:13 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
Have you noticed that the Nordyke twin's BC has the same kind of "kerning"....

No they don't. You're wrong.

202 posted on 07/14/2011 7:04:19 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
I don't think they'd be satisfied even if the Hawaii DOH ripped the page out of the binder and passed it around to all 300 million of us.

Obama was not born in Hawaii. There is no official DOH record of obama being born in Hawaii. Therefore, there is no page to rip out.

203 posted on 07/14/2011 7:18:00 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: x
So you are the most powerful person in the world and have all available resources at your disposal and you have to rely on the one template that is now pretty much in the public domain, accessible to everyone with an Internet connection, and the only person you can bet to do your dirty work is an obvious, bush league, second-rate forger?

As I believe the document to be the product of the State Government of Hawaii, the fact that it was produced by a Second rate forger cannot be helped. They wouldn't allow a First Rate forger near the archives which were needed to make it.

Wouldn't you go to some other birth certificate, unknown to the public to form your template? In this case as in so much else what people are coming up against is the limit of their own knowledge: we have all seen the Nordyke birth certificate, so it just has to be the basis for the forgery, because we've all heard about it.

You may be making a better point than you realize. The Public has SEEN the Nordyke birth certificates. Whatever was produced NEEDED to look like the Nordyke certificates. They certainly didn't use the photo's of them passing around the internet, they may very well have used the Official state copies of them for their template though. If not, one with a similar format and layout.

204 posted on 07/14/2011 7:21:18 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Revolting cat!
This is the tragedy of the day, the power of the MSM to decide and to influence the masses.

Yes. The "Fourth Estate" is nothing but a "Fifth Column." The Media is what got that bastard elected. Nothing else. They gave him the equivalent of a billion dollars worth of free advertising and promotion.

205 posted on 07/14/2011 7:33:22 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: john mirse
It looks to me that Registrar Onaka is trying to conceal something by hiding behind Hawaii's privacy laws as he refuses to let reporters examine the original of a document that the President of the United States has already VOLUNTARILY released to the public.

What she is hiding is the high probability that his Original Certificate is not what he is showing to everybody. I believe what he has now is a court ordered fabrication of a replacement birth certificate.

206 posted on 07/14/2011 7:37:17 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: LucyT

“President Obama’s birth certificate was created on a Mac, in Quartz PDFContext”

http://www.decodedscience.com/birth-certificate-debate-caused-by-ocr-software-and-digital-optimization/1939


207 posted on 07/14/2011 7:43:38 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: jh4freedom
The folks who are well known for representing conservative positions before the Supreme Court on pro-life issues, countering the homosexual agenda, affirmative action, property rights, gun rights, and defense of individual liberty have not been seen or heard from as advocates on this issue.

I think the problem of no one taking up this issue is because most of the established types think it is a political loser. Also they have been suffering from the problem of "intellectual phase lock" from the beginning. I noticed on "Ace of Spades'" website, as soon as Allahpundit (of Hot Air) announced that he believed Obama was born in Hawaii, all the Denizens and Co-bloggers fell in line and proclaimed the same thing. The issue was OVER as far as they were concerned.

This perception was reaffirmed when I suggested they were more interested in Political expediency rather than truth, at which point I had the entire batch of them screaming at me. You know you hit a nerve when you get a reaction like that.

208 posted on 07/14/2011 7:45:57 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Vickery2010
Dear Vick, Good Morning!

How is your analysis going? Have you been able to remove the 2011 green security layer and set the opacity adjustment off?

I'm certain you will find we have two sets of twin boxes when using the distinct layer, exactly where required to alter a Twins document to that of a single birth document.

This is the dead giveaway. It's like having ten fingers with four of them having identical fingerprints. An impossibility in nature. When a document is printed in 1959 or 1960, its paper is not perfect. The Ink may vary as it is melded into the paper. The Typeset is not perfect, like ballistics in a gun, each revolver produces it's own signature, even though they are machined to the exact same standards. You can see these microscopic differences in the other boxes, but the “Twin boxes” are replicated, alone, for a reason.

Mathematical odds and logic tells us that this document is a composite, not a scan of a single existing document.

NASA, men on the moon ?

I rather view this as comparable to the earth revolving around the Sun. At one time, it was established fact that the sun revolved around the earth. Then some lone little prick insisted it was the other way around.

If indeed this document is a copy of Obamas certificate, when the original in Hawaii is allowed public viewing, it will prove it. You can take it to the bank that the Document will be burned before anyone is allowed to view it.
You can take it to the bank that no one outside of the three or four people who have “seen it” and produced the copies will ever see it. Much like a flying saucer, Obamas original certificate will vanish, just as mysteriously as “copies” of it arrived in April 2011. The only witnesses describing it, just as the people describe the Head shot from the Grassy Knoll.

209 posted on 07/14/2011 7:49:28 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Revolting cat!
What if I tell you that I know somebody, now comfortably retired in the tropics, somebody blood related, who worked on the filming of the moon landing in Burbank, California, the same historical studio where Chaplin, Mary Pickford, Edna Purviance (born Olga Edna Purviance), Ben Turpin and Fatty Arbuckle to name just a few, worked, and thanks to that job was able to retire early, buy a house next to Mick Jagger’s house in the Bahamas?

I would say your blood relative is putting you on. There are mirrors on the moon placed there by Apollo Astronauts. If you shine a laser beam on them, they reflect it back. This experiment has been confirmed hundred if not thousands of times by observatories all over the world. This stuff has been observed and confirmed by people who don't even like us, so if THEY are willing to admit we put those there, then that pretty much settles the issue for any reasonable person.

Also, several other countries have built satellites that they've sent to the moon. Their satellites can SEE our stuff sitting there on the surface of the moon.

210 posted on 07/14/2011 7:52:44 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Revolting cat!
I don’t want to hijack the thread, but I know what I know, and my cousin (not “my friend”, as you state) did what he did, and I have no reasons to doubt his story. You can win if that’s how you get your rocks off, I’m not part of any crazy conspiracy to claim that aliens had landed in Nevada, but I do enjoy trips to my cousin’s digs in the Bahamas every couple of years and meeting his celebrity neighbors. Some things, I am pretty sure of it, happen in ways different than the government reports and the media dutifully parrots.

I cannot speak for your family, but I wouldn't trust mine as far as I could throw them. Many of them are given to making up exploits to inflate their own sense of self importance. I have met people who exaggerate and fabricate because it gets people to listen to them with awe; a feeling which they enjoy.

211 posted on 07/14/2011 7:58:03 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Vickery2010
Vick, if your not seeing my point, maybe if you take the document down to the community college, they could probably show you why setting opacity and combining these layers is creating the distortions that you are fabricating when viewing the twin check boxes. Is there a local college or vocational school nearby? Or maybe you have seen it for yourself? Have you seen the light, Grasshopper? :)

You been punked By Obama! :)

212 posted on 07/14/2011 8:54:09 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: ILS21R

“Obama was not born in Hawaii. There is no official DOH record of obama being born in Hawaii. Therefore, there is no page to rip out.”

The state health department’s Index data for all 1961 Hawaiian births does list Barack Obama’s name and the two local Honolulu newspapers did carry birth announcements for him on August 13 and August 14, 1961.
Scroll down to read the state’s confirmation statements about the Index data for Obama:
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

My theory is that a birth certificate was created for him in August of 1961 by having fake birth information sent to the Health Bureau from an employee at Kapi’olani Hospital.

Someone like Dr. David A. Sinclair, who is listed as the attending physician at the birth (and who did work at Kapi’olani at that time) could have sent falsified information to the Health Department to cover for a foreign birth; perhaps in exchange for a low interest loan or mortgage from Zero’s grandmother or some free furniture from the store where Zero’s grandfather worked?

No one would have been checking too closely to see if an actual birth occurred back in 1961, before the age of illegal aliens or identity theft and Hawaii was a brand new, 2 year old state, just getting its policies and procedures together.
The doctor listed on the Hawaii long form birth certificate is my first choice for who committed the crime.

Fill out a fake birth certificate form on a Friday night after the offices at the hospital are closed (Obama was supposedly born Friday evening), sign it, get the parents to sign it on Monday, August 7th and send it to the Health Bureau. The Health Bureau registers the birth on August 8, 1961 and sends the data on to the newspapers for publication. You now have a brand new 1961 Hawaiian citizen.


213 posted on 07/14/2011 8:57:33 AM PDT by jh4freedom (Mr. "O" has got to go.)
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To: Vickery2010
Vick, are you still with us? Are you OK?

I’ve been pushing electrons through chips for three decades.
Working with documents and ink for three decades. Machines for three decades. Don't be angry with me for pointing out the obvious and making you look like a fool. And I'm not racist. I have family with darker skin than the Messiah.

I take it from your non-reply that we can call this settled. The Boxes are Identical, and the document is a fraud. That we landed on the moon and our president has committed a felony.

Thanks for the input and clarity Vick.

214 posted on 07/14/2011 9:37:54 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Revolting cat!

Mark Levin summed up the media well on his show.
- they are basically a pass through for this administration’s propaganda.


215 posted on 07/14/2011 9:55:17 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: jh4freedom
My theory is that a birth certificate was created for him in August of 1961....

My theory is that Obama was born in Kenya. His mother then moved them to Hawaii and obama received a foreign-born COLB.

Unable to prove his citizenship after returning from Indoesia for Muslim schooling, obama uses his relative connections to get a Connecticut SSN.

Newspaper listings and Index data don't prove that Obama was born in Hawaii. The only thing that does is a genuine long form Birth Certificate. Which nobody has seen, nor can they seem to find.

216 posted on 07/14/2011 10:08:44 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: john mirse

“President Obama: So why won’t President Obama give reporters permission to examine his original long form birth certificate in Hawaii, a copy of which President Obama has already shown to the world at a White House press conference to great fanfare on April 27, 2011?

It looks to me like President Obama is trying to hide something.

KAPIOLANI HOSPITAL: And while we are at, why won’t President Obama give reporters permission to examine his hospital records from his birthdate of Aug. 4, 1961 records that will probably contain routine information that we already have seen on President Obama’s long form birth certificate?

Again, it looks to me that President Obama is trying to hide something in his hospital records by playing hardball when it comes to the release of his Aug. 4, 1961 hospital records.

Could President Obama be hiding the fact there are no Kapiolani records for him for his birthdate of Aug.4, 1961?”

It’s not Obama’s call. The State of Hawaii determines who gets access to Obama’s original birth certificate and the law of the state says that if you get a court order from a judge and you can get access.

Can you explain why no one in the media or no member of Congress has attempted to follow the Hawaii law and get a judge to issue a court order for Obama’s birth records?

Of course there are no Kapi’olani records for Barack Obama.
First of all, it would be Stanley Ann Dunham’s admission and record, not the new born baby’s and more importantly, hospitals don’t maintain records for 50 years. Federal law requires them to store records for five years.
The birth certificate is the hospital record for Barack Obama. It was signed by Dr. David A. Sinclair as attending Physician at Kapi’olani Gynecological and Maternity Hospital.

From October 30, 2008:
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.”


217 posted on 07/14/2011 10:19:58 AM PDT by jh4freedom (Mr. "O" has got to go.)
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To: john mirse
We are talking about examining an original birth certificate, a document which is not covered by federal strict medical privacy laws but by the state of Hawaii privacy laws.

Why do you assume Hawaii's privacy laws are less strict than the federal ones?

Are you telling me that if you gave your doctor WRITTEN permission to allow me to see your blood tests, he can't legally do so because he is still somehow prohibited from showing them to me under strict federal government medical laws?

I honestly don't know--it's a complicated and far-reaching law. I do know that Obama made a written request to the DOH to release two copies to his lawyer. A summary of HIPAA says, "All authorizations must be in plain language, and contain specific information regarding the information to be disclosed or used, the person(s) disclosing and receiving the information, expiration, right to revoke in writing, and other data." It sounds like each individual release requires a separate authorization with all that detail. If Hawaii's law is anything like that, obviously Obama isn't going to write an authorization for every single person that wants to look at his records.

218 posted on 07/14/2011 10:59:56 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: ILS21R
No they don't. You're wrong.

Uh yeah, they do. You're blind. Look at the 'a' and 'u' in 'Caucasian.'

219 posted on 07/14/2011 11:03:02 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
Uh yeah, they do. You're blind. Look at the 'a' and 'u' in 'Caucasian.'

No.. they don't. You're wrong.

220 posted on 07/14/2011 11:06:20 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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