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Will California remap give Democrats two-thirds majorities
Sacramento Bee ^ | 7/19/11 | Dan Walters

Posted on 07/19/2011 9:09:51 AM PDT by SmithL

Gov. Jerry Brown and his fellow Democrats in the Legislature were frustrated this year in seeking a few Republican votes to close the state's budget deficit by asking voters to approve billions of dollars in tax extensions.

Support from at least two Republicans in both legislative houses was needed for the two-thirds majorities required to pass the special election constitutional amendment that Brown and Democrats sought.

As the months-long talks collapsed, the Democrats said they'd try to pick up enough seats in the 2012 elections to secure two-thirds margins, thereby cutting the GOP out of future tax issues. And the redistricting plans now nearing approval by the new independent redistricting commission could set the stage for achieving that goal, either in 2012 or in 2014.

Commissioners made a number of minor adjustments in their draft maps last week and are to have another review later this week in anticipation of releasing them for public review late this month and adopting a final plan in August.

Analysts on both sides of the political aisle have plumbed the new maps for their political content – a factor the commission is not supposed to be considering – and agree they would give Democrats a very strong opportunity to win 27 Senate seats and 54 in the Assembly, two-thirds majorities in both houses.

All 80 Assembly seats will be up in 2012, plus half of the 40 Senate seats, with the remainder on the ballot in 2014.

Paul Mitchell, a Democratic political consultant who runs Redistricting Partners, is one of several analysts who have tracked day-to-day changes in the maps being drawn by the 14-member Citizens Redistricting Commission. He concludes that the Democrats' 27/54 goal is within fairly easy grasp,

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bluestate; goldenstate; granolastate; paulmitchell; redistricting
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1 posted on 07/19/2011 9:09:55 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

And when the Stalinist rodents achieve that goal, the collapse of California will be complete.


2 posted on 07/19/2011 9:11:53 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Is there a way to kick a State out of the Union?


3 posted on 07/19/2011 9:15:16 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

And the Dems will have complete ownership of the collapse.


4 posted on 07/19/2011 9:15:47 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I don't have hobbies. I'm developing a robust post-apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: SmithL

Let California be an object lesson. Let America watch and learn.


5 posted on 07/19/2011 9:16:57 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
You think so? They'll just hit DC (IOW, the other 49 states) up to bail them out. If Soetoro wins reelection, it will happen.

This whole debt “crisis” now is being used as a trial balloon for crap like CA that's waiting down the road, IMO.

6 posted on 07/19/2011 9:18:33 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: screaminsunshine
Is there a way to kick a State out of the Union?

If you find one, use it on Texas. Please.

7 posted on 07/19/2011 9:18:39 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: fieldmarshaldj

One can only hope the collapse will be swift, devastating, and complete. OTOH, one would have to believe the citizens of CA including democrats, are complete and utter idiots to allow such a takeover.

Time will tell. I’m in with the citizens winning this one.


8 posted on 07/19/2011 9:19:15 AM PDT by wita
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To: San Jacinto; screaminsunshine; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj
“Is there a way to kick a State out of the Union?”

Some of us have been wondering about this for a while now.

I don't see why a POTUS couldn't expel a state, for example (assuming s/he has a willing Congress, SCOTUS and military to back him/her).

9 posted on 07/19/2011 9:21:29 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: SmithL

Elections have consequences. The Democrats have a strangle hold over California and that means that they can gerrymander ‘Pubbies right out their districts.
I wish the ‘Pubbie majority in Georgia would ruthlessly gerrymander Democrats out of their seats. Unfortunately, I think we had it over some sort of “non-partisan” council.


10 posted on 07/19/2011 9:21:45 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: San Jacinto

If you find one, use it on Texas. Please.

I was shocked, in the opposite of your thought, unexpressed, until I looked at the screen name.


11 posted on 07/19/2011 9:27:22 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita

Where is the evidence that the people of CA can understand fiscal issues?


12 posted on 07/19/2011 9:34:36 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: SmithL

that’s why conspiracy theories about Democrats always gain traction. They’ve shown they are capable of just about anything where power is concerned.


13 posted on 07/19/2011 9:39:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SmithL

A People’s Socialist Dictatorship for California. This is also what the Demonrats seek nation-wide. And evolving demographics seem to favor that eventuality.


14 posted on 07/19/2011 9:44:45 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Obamania in 2012)
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To: SmithL
Question: "Will California remap give Democrats two-thirds majorities"

Answer. Yes.

15 posted on 07/19/2011 9:48:08 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: SmithL

Let’s hope the new state of South California gets established (I can dream, can’t I?).


16 posted on 07/19/2011 9:48:19 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Palin / West in 2012 or West / Palin. Either combination will serve America well.)
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To: SmithL

In California we already have the highest income taxes, sales taxes, and gasoline taxes. The next thing coming will be a wealth tax on assets. If you stay in California long enough they will take everything that you have. It will be “for the children.”


17 posted on 07/19/2011 9:53:42 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: SmithL
Nice follow-up from yesterday's discussion. I hope it happens..then they'll "own" it all..the implosion fo California will resemble the fall of Rome...you'll see "legal" looting..as Dems hand out $$$ to their spcial interests..agree to egregious labor contracts...and when soon after, they can't roll over a bond, let alone issue a new on..well then..jig's up...

let it happen sooner rather than later..after all..we don't want to keep "kicking Canifornia (G) down the road...

18 posted on 07/19/2011 9:57:35 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the earth..it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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I hope so, then the Dems will entitle themselves out of existence...


19 posted on 07/19/2011 10:03:58 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: SmithL
No bailout can save this State. The communists and illegals own it. It is a State of weak fools that suck on the teat of those that are trying to keep the State from collapse. Screw these idiots.
20 posted on 07/19/2011 10:20:27 AM PDT by Logical me
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