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"The Undefeated" is not about Sarah Palin, it is about YOU ["If this hockey mom can do it..."]
HillBuzz.org ^ | July 29, 2011 | Kevin DuJan

Posted on 07/29/2011 8:37:40 PM PDT by RonDog

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THIS is the kind of response that we should hope to get from "dragging your friends" to see "The Undefeated," IMHO!
1 posted on 07/29/2011 8:37:48 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: onyx; 2ndDivisionVet
From one of the comments posted after this article:
...Justin's reaction is significant. I think the Justins of this country are the most important targets of The Undefeated.

There are confused and uninformed moderates who hear some vague buzz that Sarah is radical, stupid, and whiny.

Since they aren't political junkies, they have no facts to counter these charges and they're just as happy to believe them as to question them.

In fact, it's not important that large numbers of liberals or confused moderates watch The Undefeated; it's more important that the weak-tea Republicans who do watch it and who currently dismiss Sarah as having "too many negatives" will see it and begin to reluctantly reverse the buzz.

The Undefeated, to me, is about reversing the buzz.

And if (please God, WHEN) Sarah announces, a lot of people will watch in On Demand or on DVD to see what she's all about, and the buzz will become a roar that will drown out the Palin-hatred.


2 posted on 07/29/2011 8:44:32 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

bump.


3 posted on 07/29/2011 8:46:47 PM PDT by ken21 (dem + rino progressives -- 150 years destroying america)
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I would have loved to have seen this on a large screen in a filled with a mix of supporters and doubters. I would love to be standing and cheering at the end.

I hope it makes it to a few theaters in some NE locations before it goes to PPV.


4 posted on 07/29/2011 8:55:54 PM PDT by curth (Sarah Palin: THE Genuine Article - Accept No Cheap Imitation)
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To: curth

yep.


5 posted on 07/29/2011 8:58:42 PM PDT by ken21 (dem + rino progressives -- 150 years destroying america.)
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And if (please God, WHEN) Sarah announces, a lot of people will watch it On Demand or on DVD...
...which is a good thing, because the folks marketing this amazing film certainly seem to have BUNGLED their "limited theatrical release" strategy on the BIG SCREEN.

From my frustrated rants about the DISMAL results so far, on THIS thread:

Friendly Reminder: "The Undefeated" opens today in SLC, Charleston, Cincinnati and Columbus

-- snip --

As of this morning, "The Undefeated" is currently playing in a GRAND TOTAL of four theaters -- nationwide.

Click here for the most current list:

theundefeated.cinedigm.com/tickets.html
As we feared, "The Undefeated" is NO LONGER SHOWING at the fourteen OTHER theaters
where it was originally introduced -- on 7/15, and 7/22. :(

-- snip --

The plan, apparently, was to spend VERY LITTLE MONEY on "traditional marketing" --
and instead depend on "social media" and "local networking."

And THAT strategy has clearly NOT been very effective --
after an initial promising spike in ticket sales on opening night.


6 posted on 07/29/2011 9:12:01 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: curth
I would have loved to have seen this on a large screen in a [theater] filled with a mix of supporters and doubters.

I would love to be standing and cheering at the end.

Bingo!
That is STILL the best way to experience this extraordinary film, IMHO.
Right now -- barring a MAJOR CHANGE in the current marketing strategy -- it appears that the only way for this to happen is for local "grassroots" organizations to "go rogue" -- and screen "bootleg" copies of the DVD in churches, masonic halls, etc. -- rather than inside the AMC theaters, as I had hoped.
7 posted on 07/29/2011 9:23:16 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: curth

You would have a hard time finding a filled theater, even during opening weekend the per screen average was 52 people.


8 posted on 07/29/2011 9:28:16 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: RonDog

The goal in a limited release is to pick and choose the cities the movie will show in in order to maximize it’s profits. As an example if somebody was making a movie about how wonderful gay parents were they might open the film in San Francisco and New York. After a limited release movie does well in the targeted cities the company releasing it can then go to other theaters and say, “This movie is making X amount of dollars per screen. You should show it too!”

That was the plan with The Undefeated. The marketing company picked fairly large market, fairly conservative cities to open in on the assumption that the film would do best there for an initial roll out. The problem is the movie tanked. Any way you slice it. It tanked.


9 posted on 07/29/2011 9:35:28 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: Artemis Webb

What makes you think he picked that method? Maybe he was forced, because the theaters wouldn’t book it.


10 posted on 07/29/2011 9:52:31 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will vote for Sarah Palin, even if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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To: Artemis Webb

The major flaw in their theatrical release strategy so far (IMHO) has been in the TIMING of their new showings.

We had THREE WEEKS notice before the grand opening in Orange, CA.

And, we had roughly 250 people at the 5 pm show, and 300 (sold out!) at the 7 pm show.

We had THREE DAYS notice before the opening one week later in Ontario, CA — about 75 miles away.

And, we had roughly 10 people at the 6 pm show, and 20 at the 8 pm show.

Same movie. Similar part of the country. Similar demographics/political breakdown.
Hmmm. I wonder if there is any connection between ADVANCE NOTICE and ATTENDANCE. ;)

If they’re not going to ADVERTISE the damn things, they will have to give us MUCH MORE TIME — to get the word out through “non-traditional” channels.


11 posted on 07/29/2011 9:54:19 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Artemis Webb

Not from what I read.


12 posted on 07/29/2011 10:03:55 PM PDT by curth (Sarah Palin: THE Genuine Article - Accept No Cheap Imitation)
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To: itsahoot
What makes you think he picked that method?

Maybe he was forced, because the theaters wouldn’t book it.

They were probably not FORCED by dastardly theater owners -- but perhaps they were INFLUENCED by the political timetable of a potential Labor Day announcement.

I can see them sacrificing short-term THEATRICAL success for long-term POLITICAL results.

Getting the DVDs out in time for her big announcement is just about the **only** explanation for their otherwise "bone-headed" actions to date.

13 posted on 07/29/2011 10:04:03 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Artemis Webb

opened up as the 15th best politcal documentary is not tanking.


14 posted on 07/29/2011 10:06:27 PM PDT by unseen1
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To: RonDog

Thanks for the great post and story. Can’t wait to see this film.


15 posted on 07/29/2011 10:09:05 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Artemis Webb

Really, what does sold out mean to do and the need for another screening to provide for the overflow?


16 posted on 07/29/2011 11:05:54 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Artemis Webb

So what did you take away from viewing the documentary? Too many empty seats?


17 posted on 07/29/2011 11:09:38 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: RonDog
Rednecks Built America
18 posted on 07/30/2011 1:03:29 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution!)
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To: RonDog
Justin likes playing World of Warcraft, listening to music on his iPhone, and screwing around on Facebook.

Justin sounds like the world's biggest douche nozzle. I'm assuming this gal isn't keeping him around for his brains.
19 posted on 07/30/2011 1:54:43 AM PDT by Wyoming Cowboy
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To: Wyoming Cowboy
Justin sounds like the world's biggest douche nozzle. I'm assuming this gal isn't keeping him around for his brains.

This was posted by a person named Kevin DuJan and it was posted at Hillbuzz, so I think it might be a good bet that Justin's "gal" is Kevin.

20 posted on 07/30/2011 2:07:39 AM PDT by jla
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