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Reid's Debt-Ceiling Bill Fails in Test Vote,,,(CCB still only "game" in town)
Fox News ^ | 7/31/2011 | fox news

Posted on 07/31/2011 11:17:42 AM PDT by tobyhill

Democrats' debt-ceiling bill failed to clear a key Senate hurdle Sunday afternoon, putting the onus on bipartisan negotiators to come up with an alternative plan with just two days to go until the Treasury runs out of ways to pay all of America's bills.

The vote on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's plan was expected to fail. Sixty votes were required to advance the proposal, and it fell far short in a 50-49 roll call.

The focus now turns almost exclusively to the latest round of talks being conducted among White House officials and Senate leaders. After disagreeing about the status of those negotiations the day before, Senate leaders indicated Sunday that they were making good progress on the new proposal.

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1 posted on 07/31/2011 11:17:48 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

50-49? He couldn’t even hold his party together?


2 posted on 07/31/2011 11:19:20 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Paul Ryan on Reid's bill: "Let's cover the moon with yogurt" http://post.ly/2gTED)
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To: tobyhill
Obama is the closest thing to a dictator that we will likely have....assuming we don't repeat this serious mistake.

He just keeps on pushing his party....Will they wise up??

3 posted on 07/31/2011 11:20:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: newzjunkey

Apparently not! LOL!


4 posted on 07/31/2011 11:21:41 AM PDT by ContraryMary (Obama = Carter redux)
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To: tobyhill

Ah. CCB. Which raises the debt ceiling $2.4 TRILLION dollars.

Why not? They all get the main thing they’ve been after right along: the authority to borrow and spend another couple of trillion dollars.


5 posted on 07/31/2011 11:22:34 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only thing still propping up the GOP is the dwindling illusion that it's at all conservative.)
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To: newzjunkey

He has 53 rat votes but only 50 stayed with him. He lost 3 votes after he insisted on reading some cowboy poetry in his caucus meeting.


6 posted on 07/31/2011 11:24:33 AM PDT by JPG (Yes she can!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Ah. CCB. Which raises the debt ceiling $2.4 TRILLION dollars.

Just take the raising of the debt ceiling out of it and VOILA!

7 posted on 07/31/2011 11:24:45 AM PDT by tsowellfan ( Obamanomic Wreckovery - How's That Change Working For Ya?)
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To: tobyhill

Anybody got a link to the vote count in Senate.


8 posted on 07/31/2011 11:24:45 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tobyhill

RINO traitor Scott Brown voted for this treasonous bill. What a lowlife scumbag!!


9 posted on 07/31/2011 11:25:09 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha
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To: tobyhill
..."come up with an alternative plan with just two days to go"...

Never fails with these clowns does it?

They couldn't mop a kitchen floor and manage it properly to have time to spare at the end of the job.

10 posted on 07/31/2011 11:25:44 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: tsowellfan

But that is its whole point. If you took that out all you would be left with is vapor.


11 posted on 07/31/2011 11:25:48 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only thing still propping up the GOP is the dwindling illusion that it's at all conservative.)
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To: tobyhill

When the F**K is someone going to point out to the sheeple that the debt ceiling hike will be used immediately and that anything other than savings/cuts, etc. before the end of 2011 are the only thing that can offset it? Since any future congress does NOT have to abide by the 2, 5, 10, 15, 88, 150 year “savings” that these assclowns use to fool the people?


12 posted on 07/31/2011 11:27:04 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: JPG
He lost 3 votes after he insisted on reading some cowboy poetry in his caucus meeting.

Perhaps he actually hesitated and determined that he couldn't afford the poetry at this time?

13 posted on 07/31/2011 11:27:57 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: newzjunkey
The vote on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's plan was expected to fail. Sixty votes were required to advance the proposal, and it fell far short in a 50-49 roll call.

They really are pathetic aren't they?

14 posted on 07/31/2011 11:31:07 AM PDT by clove (God, Family and Country, the truth will live!)
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To: tobyhill

The CBS news reporter on the hour just said “WE” got s majority of votes but not 60” (Bob Toth?)

CBS not even trying, eh


15 posted on 07/31/2011 11:35:53 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: ThinkingBuddha
"RINO traitor Scott Brown voted for this treasonous bill. What a lowlife scumbag!!"

A Repubic is a Repubic, is a Repubic.

17 posted on 07/31/2011 11:36:25 AM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: clove
Great article by Trevor Loudon Here.

"To say that our government is simply spending more than it takes in is an understatement when it comes to the out-of-control spending we’ve experienced under President Obama; what he’s doing is dangerous. He has spent about $12.2 Trillion in just 3 years; that’s $5.15 Trillion more than the approximate $7.05 Trillion that was given to him by taxpayers."

"Let’s look at it another way… It took roughly 220 years for our nation to accumulate $5.181 Trillion in debt which occurred in 1996. From 1996 to the end of 2008 (12 years), another $4.473 Trillion was added to our national debt, which is why we screamed for Bush to stop spending. Obama is adding $5.15 Trillion in just 3 years. What he’s doing is dangerous. So, if you’re not screaming for Obama to stop spending, why not?"

18 posted on 07/31/2011 11:37:46 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Scott Brown called Howie Carr’s show on Friday, and I had to turn it off or hurl. SB doesn’t even sound like a RINO anymore; he sounds like a full on Dem. He was prattling smarmily on about how none of the good, noble leaders of either party wanted the US to default and lose AAA, etc. So they had to work together, without regard to party label [he actually said that], to quickly avert this looming disaster. It was like, ‘Don’t worry distressed damsel voters, your brave, gallant white knight congress critters will save you!’.

I wanted to puke. These pols just cannot be this stupid. The solution to a sea of red ink is not another sea of red ink. Yet to hear them talk, that is the ONLY solution.

I have to curtail this post. If I keep going, I’ll say something intemperate.


19 posted on 07/31/2011 11:38:03 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: tobyhill
with just two days to go until the Treasury runs out of ways to pay all of America's bills.

Before OBAMA has to choose WHAT gets paid for, using the finite funds available to him -- something EVERY Freeper has to do every month.

If the day of reckoning comes, every Repub and every TEA party activist should not let people forget, the choices are Obama's, and he has no place to hide from responsibility.

20 posted on 07/31/2011 11:38:52 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: tobyhill
Bipartisan opposition to the old lady from Nevada's plan!

Well, Hussein, you asked for bipartisanship, and you got it.

21 posted on 07/31/2011 11:39:53 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: silverleaf

See B.S. “news” fake journalists are left tards in the extreme.


22 posted on 07/31/2011 11:41:35 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: tobyhill

There is no need to fiddle with an alternative plan until one of the two plans submitted to the Senate by the House is brought to a vote and fails.
if that happens, the other must be brought to a vote.

Only then should there be a time out to regroup and cobble up a new plan.

The
house will recess pretty soon any way. It would be a pity for them to recess and leave the senate with nothing to do but bitch and moan


23 posted on 07/31/2011 11:44:53 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Flash mobs are trickle down leftwing REDISTRIBUTION))
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To: bert
There is no need to fiddle with an alternative plan until one of the two plans submitted to the Senate by the House is brought to a vote and fails. if that happens, the other must be brought to a vote.

That is the goal to run the clock down so they can pass something in the dead of night "where it has to be passed to know what is in it".... We've been here before.

24 posted on 07/31/2011 11:49:22 AM PDT by clove (God, Family and Country, the truth will live!)
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To: YHAOS

I think one needs to find out why Scott Brown voted for it before throwing him under the bus.

Could be he knew the thing would fail and voted “yes” on it in trade for a “no” vote from someone else when the “no” will matter.


25 posted on 07/31/2011 11:50:04 AM PDT by Flint
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To: tobyhill
Time marches on, and the House waits for action.

The House, however, won't accept a butchered bill.

Close the hatches, we're going down.

27 posted on 07/31/2011 11:52:30 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: tennmountainman
Senate Roll Call on Reid Bill
28 posted on 07/31/2011 11:52:43 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Paul Ryan on Reid's bill: "Let's cover the moon with yogurt" http://post.ly/2gTED)
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To: ThinkingBuddha; mickie
"RINO traitor Scott Brown voted for this treasonous bill...."

Stigmatize, ostracize, bastardize, penalize, lobotomize and Tea Party-ize this cowardly pretty-boy lightweight starting now and till his next election unfortunately in 2016.

Leni

29 posted on 07/31/2011 11:52:46 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Too Bad Those of Us who Work for a Living Have to Support Those who Vote for a Living)
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To: tobyhill

Any time rats start voting against each other, I get real suspicious


30 posted on 07/31/2011 11:53:14 AM PDT by oldbrowser (They're socialists don't call them liberals)
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To: newzjunkey
All voting GOP voted against Reid.

With the exception of Scott Brown.

31 posted on 07/31/2011 11:53:47 AM PDT by BillGunn (Bill Gunn for Congress district one rep. Massachusetts)
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To: All
Inhofe (R-OK) didn't vote.

All voting GOP voted against Reid EXCEPT Brown of MA.

Dems voting against Reid:

  1. Manchin (D-WV),
  2. Nelson (D-NE),
  3. Sanders (I-VT),
  4. Reid (D-NV) (a procedural maneuver related to later reconsideration)

Roll Call

32 posted on 07/31/2011 11:54:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Paul Ryan on Reid's bill: "Let's cover the moon with yogurt" http://post.ly/2gTED)
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To: tennmountainman
Senate Roll Call votes - 1st Session of 112th Congress

Brown (R-MA) voted with the Dmocrats.

Manchin (D-WV); Nelson (D-NE); Reid (D-NV) voted with the Republicans. Reid's vote was to enable entering a "Motion to Reconsider" (which is proceduraly stupid, but so is he).

Inhofe (R-OK) did not vote.

33 posted on 07/31/2011 11:54:50 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: clove
This is rather reminiscent of the health care “debate.”
34 posted on 07/31/2011 11:55:38 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: BillGunn

Yeah I corrected that. Thanks.


35 posted on 07/31/2011 11:55:43 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Paul Ryan on Reid's bill: "Let's cover the moon with yogurt" http://post.ly/2gTED)
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To: Cboldt

You missed that Bernie Sanders (I-VT) also voted with the GOP.


36 posted on 07/31/2011 11:58:18 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Paul Ryan on Reid's bill: "Let's cover the moon with yogurt" http://post.ly/2gTED)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

A Massachusetts Republican is a big government socialist. Following in the footsteps of RINO Romney.


37 posted on 07/31/2011 11:58:40 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: bert
-- There is no need to fiddle with an alternative plan until one of the two plans submitted to the Senate by the House is brought to a vote and fails. --

"Boehner 3" failed by being tabled on the substance. A motion to limit debate on bringing up CCB was defeated by being tabled, but there is an unlimited supply of "Motion to proceed to the consideration of .." thingamabobs. I don't thing the establishment has any intention of bringing up CCB, just noting that it could, and not violate parliamentary procedure.

38 posted on 07/31/2011 11:58:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: tobyhill
Reid's Debt-Ceiling Bill Fails in Test Vote,,,(CCB still only "game" in town)

Wait! You're forgetting Hussein's "Secret Plan" - assume dictatorial powers under the guise of the 14th Amendment and spend, spend, spend!

Take Back AMERICA!
FUBO GTFO 2012 !

39 posted on 07/31/2011 11:59:30 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Yes, we are supposed to learn from history.....not repeat the same mistakes.


40 posted on 07/31/2011 12:00:05 PM PDT by clove (God, Family and Country, the truth will live!)
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To: Flint
-- I think one needs to find out why Scott Brown voted for it before throwing him under the bus. --

I believe he voted with the DEMS because he thinks it will enhance his reelection campaign. He is of a mind that his constituency leans hard to the left.

41 posted on 07/31/2011 12:01:29 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Flint
"I think one needs to find out why Scott Brown voted for it before throwing him under the bus."

I haven't thrown Brown under the bus. I just know him for what he is . . . a Republic . . . and not to be counted upon in a pinch when we will most need him. Just like Snowe, Collins, Hatch, McCain, etc, etc, etc.

42 posted on 07/31/2011 12:03:41 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: ThinkingBuddha
RINO traitor Scott Brown voted for this treasonous bill. What a lowlife scumbag!!

That means Dingy Harry lost more than 3 Democratic votes. How many RINOs voted for cloture and how many Democrats voted against it?

43 posted on 07/31/2011 12:04:37 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Fantasywriter

“I have to curtail this post. If I keep going, I’ll say something intemperate.”

You mean like, “They’re trying to crash the economy on purpose?”

My sentiments exactly but I am amazed that even Brown would stoop that low on the GOP side.

Somebody needs to step forward to give the rat a stiff primary challenge. And we need to step forward to help financially.


44 posted on 07/31/2011 12:09:15 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: newzjunkey
-- You missed that Bernie Sanders (I-VT) also voted with the GOP. --

Talk about being in bad company!

45 posted on 07/31/2011 12:12:13 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: oldbrowser
Exactly....this was on purpose...always suspicious...when our enemies are in the senate and the house. The one that I see that truly gets this is LtCol. Allen West...he knows how to spot his enemy fast...
46 posted on 07/31/2011 12:13:34 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

“Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act” of 1974

“Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act” of 1985

“Budget Enforcement Act” of 1990

“Balanced Budget Act” of 1997.

“Restoring Fiscal Discipline Act” of 2007

Yep, just one more bill ought to do it.

Why not just call whatever they pass The “Kick the Can Down the Road Bamboozlement Act ” of 2011 ?


47 posted on 07/31/2011 12:19:05 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: MinuteGal

Actually, he’s up for re-election in 2012. Unfortunately, it will be either him or a Marxist Kennedy clone.


48 posted on 07/31/2011 12:31:31 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: tobyhill

Where is that Simpson’s pic

The one that goes

HaHa!!!


49 posted on 07/31/2011 12:32:21 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Flint

Scott Brown voted for it because he is a leftist socialist statist.

I knew he was bad from the beginning. He ran against the spawn of Satan but otherwise he was not any good.


50 posted on 07/31/2011 12:37:13 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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