Posted on 08/09/2011 2:48:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
LLS
Hi. I thought that same thing.
LLS
I will not stay a good little hobbit and keep my mouth shut as john mccain demands... I will not accept that the republican party winning IS the most important thing in the world... regardless of who we nominate... when the salvation of our Republic lies in the balance. When republicans return to REPUBLICANISM... I will support the party once again. Right now... they are almost as much of what is wrong with America as the dim party is... of course I am speaking of the leadership... as they control the party and therefore ARE the party.
LLS
“You agree Michele Bachmann could win? “
Sure, she has about the same odds as Reagan did in 1979 at this time. Basically he was an EXTREMIST that was about to start World War 3. He was Carter’s dream candidate, the one that had a long history and could EASILY be tarred and feathered.
But the election wasn’t about Reagan, it was about Carter...so it really didn’t matter who ran...except that Reagan did unify the base, so when John Anderson stepped in (as a third party), he mostly took votes from Carter, even though that wasn’t his intent.
“Indeed. She is going to want to give Perry a proper endorsement in the coming months in a way that makes her look like a kingmaker. “
We’ll see. She wasn’t all that kind to him a week or two ago...
“I don’t work for the Perry campaign and I’m not going to get into a point by point debate with you. I’ve read everything you posted many times. If you think you’re original, you’re not. You’re repeating TALKING POINTS (my emphasis), just like lots of folks do, on lots of subjects.”
I agree...by who gave me the talking points? No one that I know except, mainly, the Houston Chronicle. You’re forgetting that I’ve had to live under him.
I’d rather have a candidate that conservatives don’t have to explain away.
Pardon me while I take a moment to wipe away the tears.
And while I'm grieving for you, and your terrible plight, you might want to read this:
Using straight nonfarm payroll employment, Texas accounts for 45% of net U.S. job creation.
It must be so terrible living in a state like that.
Poor, poor, pitiful you.
Cry me a river!
“Wow. You’ve “had to live under him”. “
So you would be ok if your governor forced birth control on your pre-teen daughter? While Perry hasn’t done that (yet), forcing the HPV shots in those little girls is essentially the same thing.
Yes, jobs are certainly nice. Ann Richards brought jobs, Bush-43 brought jobs, most of the Dems, if they ran the state would bring jobs (i.e., the Dems here are nothing like the Dems in DC, as Bush-43 learned the hard way).
...but there are things more important than jobs.
I think the HPV shot was a mistake but my kid goes into a clinic on a regular basis for vaccines which, if he doesn’t take, he won’t be accepted into school.
It was misguided, it didn’t pass, it’s in the past, and in the big picture of what’s happening in 2011 and 2012 regarding what the Democrats are doing to this country and how important it is for us to win and how important it is for us to pull our economy out of the ashes (which I do believe Perry can do) the misguided HPV thing is like a flea on a bull’s ass.
Hopefully he learned from that mistake. But whatever.
The fact that you say a dem could have brought jobs to your state means you are a liar or you are stupid. You are lying about all the pro-business steps Perry has taken.
Please don’t lie.
If you don’t like Perry, fine. I know many here in FR don’t. Each with his/her own agenda, btw.
But please don’t lie.
Perry has a long pro-business record and he’s going to bring that record with him into this race.
As far as whether or not he’s a conservative, he’s strongly pro-business, he’s strongly low-tax, he’s strongly pro-life and though he is weaker on some other issues (I’d rather have Palin, sure), he’s conservative enough for me.
If he’s not conservative enough for you, fine.
But don’t lie.
Please.
A dem would not have taken those pro-business, anti-tax stances Perry has taken in the last decade. Many other R’s wouldn’t have either. Perry’s pro-business actions are heart-felt. They are sincere and well thought out.
Don’t lie and say a dem would have done the same and had the same results.
They wouldn’t.
So don’t lie.
Please.
PS: And I like his military experience too.
Obviously, that is silly comment consider Reagan was elected governor twice before running for President and ran for President in 1976. Bachmann has never run a state-wide, let alone, a national campaign.
She is the most principled conservative in the race, though, and one can make the argument she is worth taking the risk of losing on.
and thought of what you wrote here:
Yes, jobs are certainly nice. Ann Richards brought jobs, Bush-43 brought jobs, most of the Dems, if they ran the state would bring jobs
And I thought, of COURSE the Perry-bashers won't let him take credit for the Jobs of Texas.
Just like the Obama Boosters say that the US Depression is ALL BUSH'S FAULT.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
“Obviously, that is silly comment consider Reagan was elected governor twice before running for President and ran for President in 1976. Bachmann has never run a state-wide, let alone, a national campaign.”
LOL. Reagan wasn’t a governor. He was an ACTOR!!!! I was there...and I remember like it was yesterday.
“And I thought, of COURSE the Perry-bashers won’t let him take credit for the Jobs of Texas.”
He SHARES credit for them...unless you can name me what he did SPECIFICALLY to create jobs. (hint, hint, check with the guys in Austin)
The buck stops at the top, whether you and Obama care to admit it or not.
“The buck stops at the top, whether you and Obama care to admit it or not.”
I agree. Both Perry and Clinton (in the 1990s) inherited governments that were set to grow and create jobs...and both did. So I give Perry as much credit as I give Clinton.
That doesn’t mean that either of them should EVER be (or should have been) president.
Equating Perry with Clinton. Good one. (not)
“Equating Perry with Clinton. Good one. (not)”
You brought up the concept. I don’t think that I equated them, I just used your reasoning.
I had (and have) HUGE PROBLEMS with Clinton. The biggest one being that he authorized Loral (or Hughes, can’t remember) to teach the Chinese how to build ICBMs. That kind of stuff really, really, pisses me off.
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