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We don't do water cannon, we rely on consent ( Theresa May, Home Secretary UK)
Mail Online ^ | 12:18 PM on 9th August 2011 (UK) | REBECCA CAMBER

Posted on 08/09/2011 5:14:02 AM PDT by expat1000

Vigilantes were forced onto the streets last night to protect their homes and businesses after police failed to materialise at many of the scenes of looting and violence which swept across London.

As officers lost control of the streets locals were forced to take the law into their own hands, arming themselves with sticks and chasing looters away from their properties.

In Dalston and Hackney, north-east London, Turkish shopkeepers and their families fought back against looting youths, before spending the night standing shoulder-to-shoulder in an attempt to deter further attacks. One man said: 'This is Turkish Kurdish area. They come to our shops and we fight them with sticks.' Despite increasing calls for the police to get tough with the rioters, Home Secretary Theresa May today sparked anger as she appeared to dismiss the notions that water cannons and even the Army could be used to ensure violent scenes are not repeated tonight.

As police were slammed for appearing to let looters run riot under their noses, Mrs May instead advocated a more softly-softly approach.

She said: 'The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon. The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.'

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It will be interesting to see if her political career survives this statement.
1 posted on 08/09/2011 5:14:06 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

forced to take the law into their own hands, arming themselves with sticks

Thank God if it comes to this here we won’t be defending ourselves with sticks!


2 posted on 08/09/2011 5:17:59 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( five words most feared by a Louisiana politician: “Will the defendant please rise.”)
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To: expat1000
The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.'

...yeah we see

3 posted on 08/09/2011 5:18:31 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: expat1000

She is right, actually.

And since the cops are the flash point for the rioting anyway, maybe they should stay off the street.

No reason for cops to gun people down during a chase, esp if the person is just trying to get away. So the cops were wrong to gun down the criminal in the public street and should have simply arrested him at a different time, when they could cuff him and put him in a paddy wagon as opposed to summary execution.

This riot is actually in response to police brutality let’s not forget. Yeah the riot is bad, but the government thugs get the blame for instigating it.


4 posted on 08/09/2011 5:19:08 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: expat1000

What in the hell is “consent of communities”? How does THAT protect anyone??? This is among the most stupid comments I have ever, EVER, read.


5 posted on 08/09/2011 5:19:38 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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To: Recon Dad
Thank God if it comes to this here we won’t be defending ourselves with sticks!

..not if the UN and the little, boy king gets their way

6 posted on 08/09/2011 5:19:58 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: expat1000
In Dalston and Hackney, north-east London, Turkish shopkeepers and their families fought back against looting youths, before spending the night standing shoulder-to-shoulder in an attempt to deter further attacks. One man said: 'This is Turkish Kurdish area.

Leave it to the recent immigrants to stand their ground when home-grown p#ssies have abdicated their responsibilities.

Korean immigrants guarding their property in Los Angeles during the 1992 riots:


7 posted on 08/09/2011 5:22:40 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: RetiredArmy

Hello

“consent of communities” is government by the people, fo rthe people and of the people.

It is the definition of true power and authority. Ask any Romanian.


8 posted on 08/09/2011 5:25:04 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: expat1000

I was watching the BBC last night on the local propaganda b.s. (aka PBS), and they were covering it like a storm moving from neighborhood to neighborhood.


9 posted on 08/09/2011 5:25:11 AM PDT by barstoolblues (Notes from the Hobbitt Hole. From Hezbollah Hobbitt)
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To: expat1000

What in the world are these “youths” rioting about? It does not seem to still be related to some shooting incident of several days ago. My G**, I worry about this happening here soon. We already have seen those Flash Robs going on in several cities. This rioting in GB is just a step beyond that. And we have a country of unemployed, angry people right now. Here, however, at least the police can be more aggressive. I feel sorry for the poor people in England who are frightened each night about these riots in their towns where the police cannot use real force.


10 posted on 08/09/2011 5:25:23 AM PDT by CitizenM (He who is silent is understood to consent)
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To: Alberta's Child

Way to go, Turks!

I live in Berlin, Germany, in a heavily Turkish populated area. I get the feeling the same would happen here.

The German polizei aren’t as wussified as their UK bobby counterparts, however, and if this kind of nonsense started u here, there’d be some busted heads.

But like you said, “Leave it to the recent immigrants to stand thier ground when home-grown p#ssies have abdicated their responsibilities.”

Kudos to the Turks....keep up the good work!


11 posted on 08/09/2011 5:27:27 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: expat1000
'The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon. The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.'

This is truly insane. In fact, it seems all of Britain has become a giant lunatic asylum, and the sickest among them have been elected to office. There is no possible good outcome there. They are doomed to more and more anarchy. Poor, poor Britain, woe is thee. I will watch your decent and demise with great sorrow.
12 posted on 08/09/2011 5:27:35 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: CitizenM

What are they rioting about? Read this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2760927/posts


13 posted on 08/09/2011 5:28:53 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000
One man said: 'This is Turkish Kurdish area. They come to our shops and we fight them with sticks.'

Note to self ... when TSHTF, make friends with Kurds.

14 posted on 08/09/2011 5:29:27 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Do you know why I love reptiles? It's because they don't play guitars.)
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To: expat1000

I want what she’s smoking.

mmmm, mmmm, mmmmm........


15 posted on 08/09/2011 5:29:52 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: expat1000

Lock and load, boys and girls. It’s going to get interesting.
BTW—Iffen you haven’t got ‘em by now.................


16 posted on 08/09/2011 5:29:52 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters--let our dead rest in peace.)
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To: expat1000
That woman is mentally ill. NO SANE PERSON TALKS THAT WAY.

They've got to get her out of there before she lets them burn down the whole city!

17 posted on 08/09/2011 5:30:04 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Recon Dad

Home Secretary Theresa May will resign and get appointed as a Czar of interior behavior here in the U.S.


18 posted on 08/09/2011 5:32:00 AM PDT by shadeaud (" If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: expat1000

How much money does this maggot b*tch make? How much tax-payer money is spent on her benefits? How much pension will she get? How much gilded medical care?

Are there any PEOPLE left in “Great” Britain... or are they all a bunch of SHEEP?


19 posted on 08/09/2011 5:32:58 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: ZX12R

This fool just basically gave the green light to every looter within the sound of her voice, or image on TV (or “telly” as our British cousins are fond of saying) to continue on with their “wealth redistribution” scheme.

This is fuel on the flames.

Imbecile.


20 posted on 08/09/2011 5:32:58 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Well, apparently many in the “Community” aint’ consenting any more!


21 posted on 08/09/2011 5:33:24 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: yldstrk
This riot is actually in response to police brutality let’s not forget. Yeah the riot is bad, but the government thugs get the blame for instigating it.

Are you serious? Or just being ironic? If the former, then you are well and truly clueless. If that latter, your comments are in very bad taste, at least from the viewpoint of all of the victims of this "youth outrage" (which is a total crock -- these are loser thugs taking advantage of a situation to grab all they can).

22 posted on 08/09/2011 5:35:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Tax-chick

Or even Turks in general.

When TSHTF, you’ll be glad to know that your Turkish homies have got your back.

As I responded to an earlier post, I live in a predominantly Turkish neighborhood here in Berlin. And yeah, when they like you, they’ll go to the wall for you. They’re really into loyalty.


23 posted on 08/09/2011 5:35:17 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: samtheman

Baaaaaaah.


24 posted on 08/09/2011 5:36:19 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Alberta's Child

If the native Britons started using guns to go after the rioters you can be sure Mz. May wouldn't hesitate to call out the Army to kill those racist white men.

25 posted on 08/09/2011 5:36:40 AM PDT by Roninf5-1
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To: Cincinatus

Hey Cince

If the cops hadn’t been brutal, this situation wouldn’t have developed.

If the politicians hadn’t been craven, there would be jobs.

This is a reflection of bigger problems. So, NWO, ARE YA HAPPY NOW


26 posted on 08/09/2011 5:39:02 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: samtheman

Her statements simply defy belief:

“She also urged parents to keep tabs on their children and for the support of local communities to help police do their jobs.”

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023932/London-riots-Powerless-police-let-mob-seize-streets-loot-start-fires-violence-spreads.html#ixzz1UX973aJC

If she is not fired within the next few days there is truly no hope for the UK, not that there is much now, anyway.


27 posted on 08/09/2011 5:40:03 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: yldstrk
This riot is actually in response to police brutality let’s not forget.
I read and re-read your post #4 to make sure you weren't trying to be sarcastic. I'm pretty sure you're not. If you are, I advise you to put a /s tag in the future, especially when your sarcasm -- if that's what it is -- is really too subtle to discern.

And if you're not being sarcastic, if you actually believe the mountain of bull sh*t you posted in #4, then you are beyond help.

Either that or you're blind, which, if that's the case, I apologize. But really, if you are blind, you should ask a family member to describe the pictures in this thread to you. Even a blind person shouldn't be posting the mountain of bull sh*t you posted in #4.

This is a SHOPPING RIOT, you f*ing moron. It's a TIME TO GET PAID riot. It has as much to do with "police brutality" as the 9/11 attack had to do with ending world hunger.

If you are not blind, and if you are not being sarcastic, you are hands down the stupidest person who has ever posted on FR.

28 posted on 08/09/2011 5:41:58 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: RetiredArmy

That’s the logic of Barack Obama and his AG, Eric Holder.


29 posted on 08/09/2011 5:42:02 AM PDT by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: yldstrk

This post is a f’ing joke right??????


30 posted on 08/09/2011 5:43:04 AM PDT by pgkdan (Time for a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: expat1000
"...arming themselves with sticks..."

We will never have that problem here.
Arming ourselves with sticks, I mean....

31 posted on 08/09/2011 5:43:07 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Roninf5-1; expat1000
If the native Britons started using guns to go after the rioters you can be sure Mz. May wouldn't hesitate to call out the Army to kill those racist white men.
Ding!

Ding!

Ding!

Ding!

We have a Winner!

32 posted on 08/09/2011 5:43:37 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: muawiyah
They've got to get her out of there before she lets them burn down the whole city!

Which is why I think that has a real chance of happening. From what I've seen, they've made NO serious attempt to end it. When others, who are probably and normally law abiding citizens see how easy it is to get free stuff, then the ranks will simply grow. They will see no reason to miss out on the "free shopping days" marathon.

So far, the only response I've seen from leaders, is to call them names, and merely point out that what they are doing is criminal. Does anyone think that will work? LOL!
33 posted on 08/09/2011 5:43:46 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Psalm 73
We will never have that problem here.
Arming ourselves with sticks, I mean....
Yes. Thank God you are right.

Even with our current maggot muzzie marxist WH resident, we seem to be making progress on 2nd amendment rights, not going backwards. (Am I wrong?)

34 posted on 08/09/2011 5:48:13 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

nope not being sarcastic and not a joke.

Cops shouldn’t gun down criminals on the street. They got what they deserve.

Police brutality has gone way too far.

And now you all want government agents to arm themselves to the teeth to fight citizens. Yeah of course it now is just looting.

But the flashpoint was the cops gunning someone down.

You are unbelievable


35 posted on 08/09/2011 5:48:22 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: expat1000
Recall when the same sort of trash wanted to burn and loot the grocery stores owned by Koreans in Los Angeles, California.
A shotgun can be a beautiful thing...
36 posted on 08/09/2011 5:48:47 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: yldstrk
If the cops hadn’t been brutal, this situation wouldn’t have developed.

OK, I see. It would be "clueless" then.

So, NWO, ARE YA HAPPY NOW

Oh, and a kook too.

Never mind.

37 posted on 08/09/2011 5:50:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: yldstrk

Thank you. Basically, I had never heard the term used before. Simply did not know what the heck it was. Thanks again for the education.


38 posted on 08/09/2011 5:51:04 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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To: expat1000
She said: 'The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon. The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.'

Hey, Theresa, I see they put incompetents in high positions over there, too.
39 posted on 08/09/2011 5:52:27 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Cincinatus

Whatever brother


40 posted on 08/09/2011 5:55:55 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

So please explain how it is that Turkish shopkeepers have to pay for the ALLEGED misbehavior (and that’s all it is, you know, ALLEGED... or do you in your infinite sh*t-head wisdom believe all police are guilty as charged the INSTANT they are charged?) of a few cops?

And don’t address your answer to me, sh*t-head. Address it to the Turkish shopkeepers who are out on the streets defending their lives, their families and their properties.

(I’m specifically mentioning the Turkish shop-keepers because I’m 1000% sure that a sh*t-head like yourself wouldn’t give a f* about ethnic British [they are all inherently evil to you, I’m sure], so I’m trying to find some common ground in that stinking turd-filled brain of yours.)


41 posted on 08/09/2011 5:56:20 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: yldstrk

Open your eyes before you open your mouth next time.


42 posted on 08/09/2011 5:56:31 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: yldstrk
Police brutality has gone way too far.

In Britian? LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
43 posted on 08/09/2011 5:56:49 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: samtheman

The Brits need to wind a few entrails on a bobbin.


44 posted on 08/09/2011 5:57:28 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: yldstrk
The Government 'thugs' killed a known criminal.

Rioters need to be shot down.

45 posted on 08/09/2011 5:57:38 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: AppyPappy

AppyPappy, that’s the best suggestion I’ve heard all day.


46 posted on 08/09/2011 5:59:08 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: yldstrk
And since the cops are the flash point for the rioting anyway, maybe they should stay off the street.

Memo to police: in yldstrk’s universe, never go out on the street. just stay at the station and have donuts delivered during your entire shift.


No reason for cops to gun people down during a chase, esp if the person is just trying to get away. So the cops were wrong to gun down the criminal in the public street and should have simply arrested him at a different time, when they could cuff him and put him in a paddy wagon as opposed to summary execution.

Memo to murders: in yldstrk’s universe, just run away whenever you see police and you will never be arrested. you will be free to kill as many people as you want, just as long as you run away from the police.


This riot is actually in response to police brutality let’s not forget. Yeah the riot is bad, but the government thugs get the blame for instigating it.

In yldstrk’s universe, it is never the rioters’ fault. It is always the fault of the government and their evil minions.

yldstrk should go back to DUmmieland.

47 posted on 08/09/2011 5:59:53 AM PDT by Cheburashka (If found, please return this Ring of Power to Sauron, Lord of Darkness. Return postage guaranteed.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

You can’t just identify someone as a criminal and then gun them down.

Notice and opportunity to be heard, right to confront the witnesses against you, right to trial......

I cannot believe some of what I am reading here.

You want government to gun down whoever it identifies as criminals without a trial? Would that make you feel safe in your bed at night?

THINK , people THINK


48 posted on 08/09/2011 6:01:10 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
This riot is actually in response to police brutality let’s not forget.
The number of ignorant cop haters on FR is amazing. Get a life you feckin' loser.
49 posted on 08/09/2011 6:02:55 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: fortheDeclaration

what like in Syria?

Yeah, it’s a horrible situation. Arrests for criminal destruction of property, robbery, assault, OK but not armed government action against your own people.......

but you are actually recommending the British government shooting them down in the street?

How is that different than what happened in Iran

Yeah, everyone wants it to wind down

But this is a very sticky wicket


50 posted on 08/09/2011 6:08:39 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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