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Rick Perry and Mitt Romney showcase a Republican divide
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 20, 2011 | By Paul West, Washington Bureau

Posted on 08/21/2011 4:18:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: hocndoc
So, you propose disobedience to the Supreme Court and the Department of Justice?

Again, point me to the Constitutional requirement to obey the judges or anyone else when they violate the first, most important, principle of American law and governance.

For the life of me, I can't find it.

All I can find is the required oath sworn to God by every officer of government, in every branch, at every level, to support the Constitution, without exception.

The Constitution that imperatively requires that:

"No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law."

"No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


121 posted on 08/21/2011 11:31:49 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (In the long run spritzing perfume on the rotting elephant really won't make that much difference.)
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To: hocndoc
What are you personally doing today to oppose those judges?

Making it clear that those officers of government in the other branches who are supposed to check them when they act outside the Constitution and their proper jurisdiction must do so.

And rejecting those for public office who will not do so, as their oath requires.

122 posted on 08/21/2011 11:34:42 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (In the long run spritzing perfume on the rotting elephant really won't make that much difference.)
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To: hocndoc
Please, enlighten us on your strategy to personally follow through on your belief to disobey the orders of judges.

Sure. I'd be happy to.

The Equal Protection for Posterity Resolution

If every Christian in America would quit playing games, make this resolve, and act accordingly in the political and public policy arenas, the holocaust would stop immediately.

At the moment, sadly, the primary impediments to that are "pro-life" Christian "leaders" who have bought into the incrementalist and judicial supremacist lies. Or, they're just in it for the political power and the money and these are convenient ways to look like they're doing something when they have no intention of stopping the bloodshed and restoring respect for the most important cornerstone principles of this free republic.

123 posted on 08/21/2011 11:41:29 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (In the long run spritzing perfume on the rotting elephant really won't make that much difference.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Condor51

” To: Condor51
Give it a rest.”

Why?? YOU don’t!!


124 posted on 08/21/2011 1:15:50 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: hocndoc
Very interesting hocndoc. I didn't know that either. In Texas you can sell the land and keep the mineral rights.

I agree with Perry though, if that is how Alaska wants to go they have every right to. I wonder how their half term governor feels about that. Too bad everyone was busy jumping on her because she was pretty and wore tight clothing. I wonder how she feels about such things for the USA.

125 posted on 08/21/2011 4:07:05 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Before Roe vs. Wade, abortion was a state right. Only because if the mother’s life was truly in danger, abortion was an option to save her life. It of course has been completely perverted but it was a medical option at one time rather than let one or both die.


126 posted on 08/21/2011 4:12:46 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Diogenesis
Not bad since out of the 1969 mile border, around 1200 is in Texas. Texas has the longest border with Mexico, California the shortest.

Oh and Texas even carries some of it's own cost to secure the border. Remember it also America's border that Texas secures partially on it's own dime. Plus Texas is a net donor state tax wise, unlike Alaska and polices much of it's own (note and the USA's) border. No problem on our end but don't bitch when we have 64 percent of the border but 27 percent of the funding from homeland security.

I would say Perry does pretty good as governor.

127 posted on 08/21/2011 4:26:47 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Liz; waterhill; ixtl
Would that all would all ponder the words of FReeper Jim Noble WRT Perry.

INSIGHTFULLY POSTED BY JIM NOBLE: I have no doubt that Perry is a globalist, until he convinces me otherwise.

1) Like it or not (and, as a Palin fan, I have to deal with a lot of things I don’t like), “Texas” will be made a HUGE negative in the campaign. The Bush disaster is what Obama and his handlers want to run against. Perry, fairly or unfairly, hands them this on a silver platter.

2) Perry and Romney are more alike than dissimilar. Both are running on the premise that a dying system can be revived, if only THEY are running it. Rather than agitating for “hope and change”, they are trying to assure conservatives that it all can work, when it can’t.

3) This election will be more like 1860 than anything else. The old ways are dying and cannot be preserved. Perry’s appeal to conservatives is an illusion - we will either move towards a global citizenship and a global currency, or smash globalism once and for all and restore the American economy and real, constitutional money.

Well said Jim.

Our system will no longer function as intended, not because of a failure of the system, but because of the inherent flaws in human nature. Corruption and greed are the failure of the system, not the "vision" of the forefathers......

We need "someone" who is willing to deconstruct the system back to its most basic intent.

128 posted on 08/21/2011 4:43:48 PM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: Liz; Cincinatus' Wife; All

Thanks for the ping to the thread, Liz (yes I read every post). Thanks for the post, Cincinatus’ Wife. This is a great thread with lots of OUTSTANDING FReepers. Fascinating discussion. Thanks to every poster.


129 posted on 08/21/2011 7:11:04 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: normy

There is no “right” to do wrong. Never has been, never will be. You’re mistaken.


130 posted on 08/21/2011 8:43:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (In the long run spritzing perfume on the rotting elephant really won't make that much difference.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs
*** Give it a rest. ***

Yes ma'am, okay, whatever you say.
I'll go sit in the corner now.

May I please have some of that Purple Kool-Aid now?

131 posted on 08/22/2011 3:56:46 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: Liz; SatinDoll; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; Plummz; ...
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Rick Perry and Mitt Romney showcase a Republican divide.

# 25, # 74 .

Thanks Liz.

132 posted on 08/22/2011 11:43:12 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

WOW! This article seems to be exactly what is described by The Washington Insider.

Divide and Conquer...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2767368/posts

I really don’t see much difference between Perry and Romney. Both are statist politicians, and I’ve had a belly-full of them at this point. No more!


133 posted on 08/22/2011 11:53:24 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Liz

The difference between Rick Perry and Mitt Romney is that Romney wears regular shoes and the BS comes up to his knees, whereas rick perry wears cowboy boots so he can walk around in it without dirtying his pants...and they make him look taller.


134 posted on 08/22/2011 12:03:30 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: MestaMachine

Heh-—good one.


135 posted on 08/22/2011 12:06:51 PM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That is the article. It helped me a lot to see Perry in a far more positive light BECAUSE it is a balanced and verrrrry fair and comprehensively informative article. If ultimately I decide in his favor, you may rest assured that you played a major role and, if not, it will be no fault of yours.

Linking that article over and over cannot but cause other conservative skeptics to see Perry much more positively. It is for such work that FR was created IMNSHO.

136 posted on 08/22/2011 3:31:31 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: BlackElk

Bump!


137 posted on 08/23/2011 2:01:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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