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Activist: Rejecting Beck, Evangelicals Would be 'Suicidal'
Arutz Sheva ^ | 24/8/11 | David Lev

Posted on 08/23/2011 4:34:15 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

The debate on the intentions of Glenn Beck and other Christian evangelicals rages on, and Dr. Gadi Eshel, a Land of Israel activist, told Arutz 7 Tuesday that while he did not believe that Beck's intentions were improper, rejecting the friendship of evangelicals could cause anti-Semitism.

Eshel was responding to comments by Jerusalem City Council member Mina Fenton Monday, who voiced vociferous opposition to Beck's appearance in Jerusalem on Wednesday, saying that his rally was designed to encourage missionary activity. Eshel told Arutz 7 that Christians like Beck supported Israel because they were strong believers in the Bible, and not out of missionary reasons.

“The basic belief of Christians like Beck is that the Torah and Tanach are divine in nature and precede the Christian Gospels. This is different than the beliefs of traditional Christians, like Roman Catholics, and even Episcopalians, who participate in boycotts against Israel,” he said.

As such, Eshel said, rejecting the friendship offered unconditionally by Beck and evangelicals in general would be the ultimate in ingratitude.

“Such ingratitude would be an act of suicide,” he said. “This could cause great damage potentially. The paranoia and automatic negative reaction has the potential to cause a great wave of anti-Semitism.” With all the concerns about the rise of radical Islam and the isolation of Israel even by the U.S., Eshel says, “spitting at and rejecting Israel's most loyal friends would truly be an act of suicide.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: activists; beck; courage; eshel; evangelicals; glennbeck; israel; restorecourage; suicidal
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It's appalling that anyone would have to explain such an obvious fact of life to Israelis. We're supposed to be smart.

Muslims and leftists hate us. Christians and rightists love/like us. Let's reject the Christians and rightists. Sure./sarc

1 posted on 08/23/2011 4:34:22 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

I can’t even believe that there would be mystery in this.....have the leftest Jews poisoned the well so much with religious Jews that the would reflexively reject Christians?

Maybe Glen needs to educate them that we aren’t right wing to begin with.


2 posted on 08/23/2011 4:39:40 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Eleutheria5

Um... One problem about calling Beck an Evangelical Christian...


3 posted on 08/23/2011 4:45:03 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: Eleutheria5
rejecting the friendship of evangelicals could cause anti-Semitism

What a bizarre premise! Everything Jews do as Jews causes anti-Semitism.

4 posted on 08/23/2011 4:46:18 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: dila813
Maybe Glen needs to educate them that we aren’t right wing to begin with.

Would you mind elaborating on this? I'm very much pro-Israel but I'm also very "right wing"

VRWC

5 posted on 08/23/2011 4:49:05 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: dila813

“.....have the leftest Jews poisoned the well so much with religious Jews that the would reflexively reject Christians?”

No, I think we Christians putting them in ovens last century pretty well made them reflexively nervous.

Holocaust wounds are fresh and deep in Israel.

I am Christian and visited there. Just in restaurants and the like I saw 50 Nazi era tattos on older folks. Just blue or black blurs, but you could tell what they used to be.


6 posted on 08/23/2011 4:51:15 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Eleutheria5; dila813; MNDude; jjotto

As I have grown to understand it, liberal U.S. jews detest evagelicals cause they think they all keep a white hood and a cossack saber hidden in their closets.

Whereas many Israelis are deep-down suspicious that the Americans want to convert them.


7 posted on 08/23/2011 4:52:34 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: jjotto

Hating Israel and the Jewish people is of a evil supernatural spirit.....

Loving Israel and the Jewish People is of a Divine Holy Super-natural spirit.....

There is no in-between....


8 posted on 08/23/2011 4:53:40 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: MNDude

” One problem about calling Beck an Evangelical Christian...”

True. But I think they are just now grasping there is a difference between Roman Catholics and Protestants.

Be like us trying to figure out the different Jewish denominations (or whatever they are called).


9 posted on 08/23/2011 4:53:40 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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No, I think we Christians putting them in ovens last century

Ok! Here we go again!! No. Gay pagans put them in ovens, not Christians.

10 posted on 08/23/2011 4:54:53 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: TheThirdRuffian

somehow equating evangelical or any form of christianity with national socialism shows a lack of understanding about the philosophy, teachings and goals of the two world views. Dietrich Bonhoeffer is one shining example of what christians thought of the nazis.


11 posted on 08/23/2011 4:58:20 PM PDT by class8601_nuke (don't just be critical, be prompt critical.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

>>No, I think we Christians putting them in ovens last century pretty well made them reflexively nervous.<<

WHAT Christians?
I thought it was the Nazis. They were NOT Christian.
Please, at least get Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism” and read it. Don’t rely on what you learned in Public School.


12 posted on 08/23/2011 4:58:56 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: TaraP

Interesting.

There is a Jewish mystical teaching that there are only two active principles in the world: Jewish morality on the one hand, and the spirit of Amalek (suicidal Jew-hate) on the other.


13 posted on 08/23/2011 4:59:43 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: stormhill

Right Wing is Fascist, Left Wing is Communist, I reject both and don’t see myself as between these two choices.


14 posted on 08/23/2011 5:01:38 PM PDT by dila813
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Christians didn’t put them in the ovens. Nazism and Christians are not the same.


15 posted on 08/23/2011 5:01:53 PM PDT by carton253
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To: stormhill

How many of those doing Nazi dirty work were gay pagans? How many were members of a church in good standing?


16 posted on 08/23/2011 5:02:12 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TheThirdRuffian

“No, I think we Christians putting them in ovens last century
Ok! Here we go again!! No. Gay pagans put them in ovens, not Christians.”


Waall, I’ll be hornswoggled! I thought the warriors that destroyed and defeated the oven-stokers were basically Christians, citizens of a basically Christian nation and motivated to a significant degree by an essentially Christian mindset.


17 posted on 08/23/2011 5:03:35 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: jjotto
I agree. When I read this part, “Such ingratitude would be an act of suicide,” he said. “This could cause great damage potentially. The paranoia and automatic negative reaction has the potential to cause a great wave of anti-Semitism”, it made me sad.

Does Eshel truly believe that Evangelicals are, by nature, paranoid and negative? And that if you don't accept their friendship they will become anti-Semitic?

I'm not a fan of Glenn Beck, but if his activities in Israel can help to overcome some of these harmful stereotypes, it will be a good thing for all concerned.

18 posted on 08/23/2011 5:04:31 PM PDT by lonevoice (schizophrenic hostage taking hobbit terrorist)
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To: jjotto

The War is really a Spiritual battle, not a human one....

Good response!


19 posted on 08/23/2011 5:04:53 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Are you a Mormon?


20 posted on 08/23/2011 5:05:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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