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| Simon Black
Posted on 08/23/2011 7:38:13 PM PDT by blam
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To: nolongerademocrat
Whats going to happen when the government sends in jackboot thugs to take the gold?
They’ll all be dead before they take even a fraction of what’s out there. There aren’t enough of them. Besides, most will head home to protect their families and group up with other like-minded people when TSHTF. IMO
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posted on
08/23/2011 10:01:48 PM PDT
by
unkus
(Silence Is Consent)
To: djf
"Put an apple in with potatoes anytime you store them long-term. The apple gives off ethylene gas which prevents the taters from sprouting. They will stay good much longer."
Thanks! I knew to avoid storing potatoes with certain other produce (onions, etc.), but I didn't know that.
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posted on
08/23/2011 10:05:11 PM PDT
by
familyop
("Plan? There ain't no plan!" --Pigkiller, "Beyond Thunderdome")
To: blam
And, I would add, when SHTF bridges may suddenly become impassible, so one should plan accordingly.
For me the key indicator is going to be in the value of the dollar. A cop's not going to stay on the job when his paycheck will no longer buy a bag of potato chips.
Here's a cool, related web site I stumbled on this past week:
True Prices Measured in Gold
BTW, there's nothing particularly magic about gold - it's just a "convenient commodity". It could be just as valid to value things in barrels of a particular type of oil.
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posted on
08/23/2011 10:07:44 PM PDT
by
The Duke
To: Jane Long
Something else to consider if SHTF, would be good tools to survive with.
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posted on
08/23/2011 10:12:18 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: Tammy8
My grandfather was Irish, his parents came here during the Potato Famine. He called them "pit potatoes".
In the fall, he'd dig a pit about 6 ft deep (they need to be below the winter frost line), put a thick layer of straw on the bottom. He put probably 100 lbs of homegrown potatoes on the straw, cover it with another thick layer of straw, and bury it for the winter.
After the thaw, he'd dig them up. By far, the best potatoes I've ever had. It must have been the sweetness of the straw, or the aging, or both, but it gave them a sweet flavor, with none of the dirt flavor you sometimes get from store-bought potatoes.
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posted on
08/23/2011 10:31:56 PM PDT
by
FlyVet
To: paul51
If you have guns you can get goldYou can get anything you need
I hear that a lot of these threads.
So your plan is robbery and murder? Really?
To: One Name; nolongerademocrat; farmguy; MountainDad; DaxtonBrown; ChildOfThe60s; blam; Redcitizen
Gold is pretty worthless without a security structure.
Exactly . Gold only value as "currency" is it's percieved worth for transactions. If society truly collapses, A la Mad Max style, gold would be worth less than lead. And if the government decrees it as "illegal tender" and criminalizes it's possession, any merchant that exchanges for real goods(food, gasoline etc.)would be foolish.
Better to be independent as possible, grow your own food, or make yourself useful, have a useful skill. There won't be much need for paper pushers and lawyers and high demand for tradesmen, i.e, metalworkers, distilers(both for drinking and fuel),farmers, mechanics gunsmiths, etc.
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posted on
08/23/2011 11:52:59 PM PDT
by
RedMonqey
(If you can't stand behind the military, stand in front of it)
To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
when it all breaks down, everyone will do whatever they must to survive. To expect anything different would be naive
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posted on
08/24/2011 12:04:23 AM PDT
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: simplesimon; Huck
Do you know how one can safely keep taters in the ground without rotting or going bad?
Assuming there crop was healthy to begin with (no outbreak of fungus) potatoes, like turnips, can be left in the ground over winter. However their buds or "eyes" will start to sprout with warm spring weather so it would be best to dig them up if you plan on eating them.
And if kept in a cool dry place can be stored until next planting season.
It's historical value against invading armies was it couldn't be easily destroyed, trampled down or burned like wheat or oats or carried off as spoils of war.
Today's it's usefulness is that looter's want something easily seized and carried off. Even if they(urban or suburban looters) knew what potato plants looked like in the first place, it is doubtful they would spend the labour or time to dig up the tubers.
Don't want to hang around until the owners show up with shotguns.
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posted on
08/24/2011 12:13:27 AM PDT
by
RedMonqey
(If you can't stand behind the military, stand in front of it)
To: blam
You can make Bullets out of Gold, but you can also acquire Gold using Bullets.
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posted on
08/24/2011 12:17:57 AM PDT
by
Kickass Conservative
(If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now.)
To: DTogo
Does the etc include trauma dressings?
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posted on
08/24/2011 12:26:12 AM PDT
by
Stentor
( "All cults of personality begin as high drama and end as low comedy.")
To: The Duke
A cop's not going to stay on the job when his paycheck will no longer buy a bag of potato chips.They're a ready made gang looking for a warlord to serve.
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posted on
08/24/2011 12:32:01 AM PDT
by
Stentor
( "All cults of personality begin as high drama and end as low comedy.")
To: Kartographer; blam
Don't for get WATER!
Absolutely, water is a must.
Forget "going long" in gold, get barrels and stored Potable(clean) water.
When everything shuts down,(water as well as sewer services) clean water will be in high demand and short on supply.
Just think of Katrina and New Orleans. People begin dying of dehydration long before anyone,if any, died of starvation. Surrounded by water but not a drop was fit to drink(or wade through)
Even the water in the pipes was contaminated, full of bacteria and spilled chemicals. Old disease Westerners have long forgotten about, like Typhoid fever will spread like wildfire because people will drink unsafe water...
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posted on
08/24/2011 12:33:11 AM PDT
by
RedMonqey
(If you can't stand behind the military, stand in front of it)
To: paul51; IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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posted on
08/24/2011 1:06:36 AM PDT
by
Kartographer
(".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
To: Huck
If youre starving, what is worth morefood or gold? I think the idea is that on the way down, you can sell gold for dollars at the current exchange rate that have the same buying power as the dollars used to buy the gold to begin with.
We are all too old to survive to a Mad Max situation.
Or, put another way, if you survive to Mad Max, that means you passively acquiesced to having your guns taken, your gold taken, your land taken, your stored food taken.
To: nolongerademocrat
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posted on
08/24/2011 1:10:46 AM PDT
by
Redcloak
(Sans Couth)
To: RedMonqey
[And if the government decrees it as “illegal tender” and criminalizes it’s possession, any merchant that exchanges for real goods(food, gasoline etc.)would be foolish.\
Quite possible, most people forget what FDR did when he stole the gold. Here’s my chapter from my book “Surviving Civil War II” on the Fed. http://www.futurnamics.com/fed.php
[Better to be independent as possible, grow your own food, or make yourself useful, have a useful skill. ]
That’s why I wrote “Going Galt”
http://www.futurnamics.com/goinggalt.php
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posted on
08/24/2011 1:58:40 AM PDT
by
DaxtonBrown
(HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
To: paul51
when it all breaks down, everyone will do whatever they must to survive. To expect anything different would be naiveSo you willingly don't stock up on needed supplies, so that you can rob and murder those that did stock up.
Gotcha.
To: One Name
They used to carve (or chisel) dubloons into quarters and pieces of eight for smaller purchases. Which is where the term "two-bits" comes from...when there was an eight-part dollar. Two bits equaled a quarter. Thus the 'two-bits' tag afforded to our current 25 cent quarter.
To: ChildOfThe60s
Huh? And on what did he base his assertion that they would be unconfiscatable? That is a standard sales pitch to get folks to buy numismatic coins instead of bullion. It's based on a supposed exemption for such coins the first time gold was made illegal to hold. (like any of that would matter if the powers that be decided to make holding gold illegal again)
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posted on
08/24/2011 6:28:21 AM PDT
by
farmguy
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