Posted on 08/24/2011 4:02:43 AM PDT by Kaslin
The question continues to hover about whether best interest can always be quantified in dollars and cents. Those pesky bugs of economism can’t be easily swatted away once they have been let into the room.
Allowing the strong willed to hold unmitigated sway over the weaker willed can also produce a plethora of unwanted social effects. Consider that the unnatural act itself may be seen as a kind of forced violence. Rape is seldom about sex, usually about power.
Money is a wonderful servant — and a hideous master. It is not a suitable metric for the worth of heavenly things or the horror of hellish things.
Did you ever have chores? I’m sure in the mind of the child, it is not in their best interest to take out the garbage or to weed the garden and do the dishes.
Does the parent not have the best interest of the child in mind when they insist that they contribute and become productive members of the family and then society?
More great common sense effectively communicated by the “new” John Stossel’s “soft sell”. I go out of my way to watch his presentations on Fox.
“No, Libertarians don’t neglect morality. They believe that the state should neither define nor enforce it.”
God defines morality...and when the people choose to ignore it, and that includes their government...bad things happen.
God defines morality...and when the people choose to ignore it, and that includes their government...bad things happen.
When and if we are out bred in sheer numbers and Islam is the government, will you say the same? Are you ready then for government enforced morality?
Wealthy people should only be allowed to cover up their LEGAL crimes ;)
Character building!
LOL! You sound like my hubby!
#2: Schools are a means of indoctrination. The State loves schools, because it means they control the the next generation.
Notice learning is not one of the goals of education. Academic performance is lot rewarded, and in some schools, many if you are male, it is discouraged.
Lets stick with Christians. Which sect? Where do you draw the line? Will government enforce morality by plucking out the eye that has committed lust?
I realize you didn’t say that government should enforce morality, you implied that they should not ignore morality. The power of government is authorized use of force. Force at the point of a gun.
I've taught myself most of this already... Does that mean I was wrong?
Paraphrased:
“God defines morality...and when the people choose to ignore it, and that includes their government...bad things happen.”
“when Islam takes over our government, should government then enforce morality?”
The conclusion you reached has nothing to do with his statement.
Islam is not a religion of the true God of the Bible to which the poster was referring. Islam is the worship of a pagan moon god, ie, a demon, and is a religion made up by a man under demonic influence in order to justify his sinful desires.
Referring to Islam to refute “God defines morality” is simply a non-sequitur.
Thus the limitations the founders put in the Constitution.
If the government would not enforce “anti-morality”, which it is doing now, then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
And what is school? For many of us it was a dozen years of confinement against our wills. Now it's worse.
ML/NJ
I wonder if the book states the reality that if nations which have built economies strong enough to end child labor and the other practices mentioned, that those nations can return to that economic state by flooding itself with cheap labor from such nations, and by sending vast amounts of work to cheap labor nations.
When wealthy nations pursue the world’s cheapest labor, they will eventually recreate the economic conditions described in their own nations, once they can no longer generate or borrow enough surplus to support their unemployed (the unemployed should really include those of working age on welfare).
Years ago the government passed laws to prevent children (other than family members working in a family business) less than 17 years old from working.
The first casualty was paper routes, then grocery store sacker/stackers, then all other jobs we used to work as kids.
Next came our lazy generation who normally was never exposed to work until after they graduated from high school or college. Worse yet, college graduates expected to start in the middle, not at the bottom.
In the interim, the kids sat around playing video games and other forms of entertainment and when presented with their first job, had no idea what-so-ever what the statement “8 hours work for 8 hours pay” or the phrase “work ethic.”
“If the blackmailer has any marketing skills he will charge according to the target’s ability to pay. “
The target’s willingness to pay would weigh fairly heavily.
From a purely economic standpoint, it might be better to just kill the blackmailer.
Equating child labor (or learning to work) and scalping with extortion and selling human tissue is just wrong. At some point with economics morality has to come into play and there’s the difference.
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